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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:53 pm

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In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:53 pm

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In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:53 pm

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In post 165, The Coalition wrote:
In post 162, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:Just so I understand how this works, we all choose our coalitions then there's a vote of which coalition is best, is that right?
~ C
5 people have to vote the exact same list of 5 people
Oh lorde, this is going to be harder than I thought.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:53 pm

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but one thing I did notice was the difference in treatment of iverson and I and the coincidence of iverson having them as a coalition choice
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 157, The Coalition wrote:just as an added thought to my previous post, in my experience when scum try to frame me as scum - they'll attack my playstyle primarily, because it is easily framed as scummy. (fact is, I can mimic it nearly perfectly between town/scum so its NAI) - and their insistence about garbage(that yes, is scum indicative for the average scum player who hates playing scum) like "LAMIST" shit is the type of stuff I'd expect scum to try to point out to push what appears to be a reasonable scumread.
first off, anyone who says "I imitate my towngame perfectly as scum" is lying

second, I'm kinda fired up so I'll go into even further detail why I didn't like your early posts:

you joke that excluding you is "scummy" despite the fact that it was obvious to anyone who checked that Iverson used the order in the playlist to make their initial coalition. What I don't like is that you call it "scummy" specifically, subtly implying that you are town and not having you in a coalition is not what Town Would Do. Contrast this to Cheek who also the same joke but didn't try to make themselves look townie from it in

you literally ask people to explain their thought processes in a mafia game... as if we're not going to do that... and make a comment about wanting to win off a pure coalition. Again, this vibes to me like "guys, I'm town, because I want town to win!". It's performative - in a vacuum the comment alone is probably overall NAI but combined with these other posts I don't like the pattern

the worst offender, you flipflop on a coalition read (I don't see your as RVS as you specifically did it after implies you were reading through the game) without explaining why - despite just saying that you want people to explain their thought processes - and then make a joke about being "indecisive". I think if you were genuinely indecisive and genuinely believed in the value of being transparent of explaining one's thoughts, you would have made some kind of effort, even if a tiny token one, to explain what you did or didn't like from Cheek when deciding to remove them from a coalition so immediately after adding them.

there, now it's not just a "buzzword", it's ~ my thought process ~
"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 176, Vulture wrote:
In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
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Why do you call such?
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:55 pm

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In post 178, The Coalition wrote:but one thing I did notice was the difference in treatment of iverson and I and the coincidence of iverson having them as a coalition choice
This sounds like you believe the two to be SvS?
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:55 pm

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no one here who has played with me will take that interpretation of me seriously so have fun ~~
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:56 pm

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In post 180, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 176, Vulture wrote:
In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
I'm a strange person.

Why do you call such?
~C
I don't quite know why yet and I'm trying to figure it out.

It feels weird, maybe, to remove the context of interactions from an ISO? It feels like you're trying to maybe play good cop for Coalition when no one's really on their side which... eh. I don't know.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:57 pm

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my method of scumhunting has always been "analyze the thought process not the content" so fuck off <3
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:57 pm

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im gonna come back later when I am not at risk of saying something that will get me banned
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 164, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:Righto, is it too early to ask what you think of Uncle Shelby so far?
~C
I tend to be suspicious of it when people project charisma/confidence in early scumreads like , but other than that I don't really have much either way. I didn't like the Vulture push as it was a bit of an easy one but it's also not difficult to imagine coming from town, I'm waiting to see how they re-evaluate/update their reads on return to the thread
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 186, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 164, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:Righto, is it too early to ask what you think of Uncle Shelby so far?
~C
I tend to be suspicious of it when people project charisma/confidence in early scumreads
like , but other than that I don't really have much either way. I didn't like the Vulture push as it was a bit of an easy one but it's also not difficult to imagine coming from town, I'm waiting to see how they re-evaluate/update their reads on return to the thread
HOLY FUCK THIS KID IS FUCKING HOWLING LIKE FUCKING YALL ARE BLIND BYE
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:00 pm

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I am unironically down to policy Coalition if the 5 don't go through, and I say that as someone who wants them in the 5.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:01 pm

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In post 183, Vulture wrote:
In post 180, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 176, Vulture wrote:
In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
I'm a strange person.

Why do you call such?
~C
I don't quite know why yet and I'm trying to figure it out.

It feels weird, maybe, to remove the context of interactions from an ISO? It feels like you're trying to maybe play good cop for Coalition when no one's really on their side which... eh. I don't know.
I'm playing good cop because I see myself in them. I get tunneled, but sometimes the tunnel is right but I can't get taken seriously because omgus. I think GL could be scum, and am legitimately interested in coalition providing a valid point other than "only scum think I'm scum"
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:01 pm

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HURT: All
HEAL: The Coalition
HEAL: Iverson
HEAL: Implosion

i'm out for real now.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:01 pm

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HURT: GuiltyLion

Your case feels a little reach-y in a way that doesn't jive with me. Given that you were the topic of conversation I read over your iso and thought it was fine but meh. Might just be early game.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:02 pm

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My 5 ATM would probably be me, Coalition, CheekyGamma, Vulture and...? Last one is hard.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:02 pm

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In post 189, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 183, Vulture wrote:
In post 180, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 176, Vulture wrote:
In post 173, The Cheek of Gamma wrote:
In post 171, The Coalition wrote:literally where?

they were like "oh what townreads do u disagree with"

I don't recall anything that remotely resembles charitability
Ok, let's start over. Let's say GL has never interacted with you, ignoring those posts and looking at what's left, why do you think he's scum?
~C
This is a... strange question.
I'm a strange person.

Why do you call such?
~C
I don't quite know why yet and I'm trying to figure it out.

It feels weird, maybe, to remove the context of interactions from an ISO? It feels like you're trying to maybe play good cop for Coalition when no one's really on their side which... eh. I don't know.
I'm playing good cop because I see myself in them. I get tunneled, but sometimes the tunnel is right but I can't get taken seriously because omgus. I think GL could be scum, and am legitimately interested in coalition providing a valid point other than "only scum think I'm scum"
Alright. I can't really argue with the self-comparison.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:04 pm

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In post 191, Vulture wrote:Your case feels a little reach-y in a way that doesn't jive with me. Given that you were the topic of conversation I read over your iso and thought it was fine but meh. Might just be early game.
What is your read on Coalition here?
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:05 pm

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In post 194, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 191, Vulture wrote:Your case feels a little reach-y in a way that doesn't jive with me. Given that you were the topic of conversation I read over your iso and thought it was fine but meh. Might just be early game.
What is your read on Coalition here?
Mmm. Townlean.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:06 pm

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I'm not Vulture but scum that are so overly aggressive/arrogant are far and few in between on MS. Much more common on places like EM, ex. Players like the banned Transcend
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:06 pm

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Hi Art :)
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:06 pm

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Actually if that's Koba maybe, but I won't play this game if it's Koba so
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Wed Jul 28, 2021 2:07 pm

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The arrogance reflects more on their townplay as of late over scumplay.

p-edit: It is almost certainly.

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