FGO: Mafia in the Lostbelt - 2 Game Over


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Post Post #2550 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:25 am

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In post 2540, Servant Rider wrote:If Beast is in the PT, then Assassin uses their fruit vendor. It doesn't really matter who he sends it to (so long as it isn't Beast), but we can say Caster.

If Beast isn't in the PT, then they don't use the fruit vendor at all.
This plan is fine.

Worst case scenario we just don't get a clear on Beast. The alternative scenario just opens up the possibility of a false clear.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU TO NO-ELIM TOMORROW!

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU TO NO-ELIM TOMORROW!

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU TO NO-ELIM TOMORROW!
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Post Post #2551 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:29 am

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That opens up a false guilty though.
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Post Post #2552 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:32 am

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In post 2548, Servant Assassin wrote:I think I send fruit if Beast is scum, just to account for the small possibility that Caster is scum who had already used a roleblock. My target won't matter, as the fruit if it goes through, is public knowledge.

If beast is scum and has their own roleblock potential, well, I'll risk that.
Tell me that you're going to go with my plan.

Caster can't be scum regardless of Beast's alignment since Beast is claiming to have received a message from Cabd explicitly stating that she DID NOT kill anyone when there was only one scum left.

With your plan, if you throw out a fruit, and Beast has a redirector ability, they can redirect it to you or to themselves, thus creating a false clear and ending the game in a scum-win.

With my plan, if you throw out a fruit, worst case scenario Beast just isn't cleared and we go back to scumhunting.
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Post Post #2553 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:32 am

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In post 2551, Servant Assassin wrote:That opens up a false guilty though.
I just put a curse on caster/lancer, like I said. It's a confirmable night action, they get told I used it on them.
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Post Post #2554 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:34 am

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With 6 players alive, it will take 4 votes to burn a servant.

Rider (3): Beast, Lancer, Alter Ego

Deadline for Day 4 is set at: (expired on 2021-07-30 23:05:00)

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Post Post #2555 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:37 am

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With my plan, there is still a fair chance of there being no redirector and Beast getting cleared
if
he's town.

However, if there is a redirector, worst case scenario, they just redirect the fruit, hiding it, and we don't know if Beast is scum. But at the very least, we don't have to worry about there being a false clear.
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Post Post #2556 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:46 am

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Fine I'll go with your plan Rider.
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Post Post #2557 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:47 am

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Cool, do you wanna hammer me or do you want me to do it?

You're probably going to be joining me in the dead thread anyway.
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Post Post #2558 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:48 am

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I personally would rather not self-vote, just on principle. But if you would rather not, I'd understand.
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Post Post #2559 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:49 am

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In post 2550, Servant Rider wrote:UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU TO NO-ELIM TOMORROW!
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU TO NO-ELIM TOMORROW!
UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE YOU TO NO-ELIM TOMORROW!
Oh right, I almost forgot.

Don't no-elim tomorrow. If scum is hiding an extra killing ability, we just lose.
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Post Post #2560 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:49 am

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Perhaps everyone can check in one last time to digest this and then I can.
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Post Post #2561 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:57 am

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I'll flip a coin and target one of Lancer/Caster.
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Post Post #2562 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:34 am

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Okay. I’m good with this plan but I would also like to talk to assassin in the PT about alternative ways to clear me. I had hoped that the redirecor would have to luck into redirectingassassin’s target, but, nope. They just need to woosh away the fruit.

Alter’s ability interesting.
How many stars is your NP alter?
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Post Post #2563 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:51 am

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Actually asking, cabd a question about multi targeting.
This may resolve alter automatically

Please hold. If you don’t trust the answer feel free to ask him. My question is basically whether scum can use their np, main ability, and their night kill on the same turn and how they can distribute each of them.
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Post Post #2564 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:04 am

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Got my answer. Cabd invited others to ask them.
It doesn’t look like I’m going to get a mechanically straight answer. Though, I think you can activate the nk, ability, and NP all in the same turn. just not sure how the targeting works.

Would it be against the rules to ask if based on games cabd has previously modded he would allow multi targeting?
Asking in thread if anyone knows offhand. If it’s against the rules ignore this question.
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Post Post #2565 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:10 am

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Oh, actually he did just straight up answer me. They can multi target and they can use all their abilities at once. I misread, but wouldn’t mind someone double checking his answer.
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Post Post #2566 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 am

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My NP is 5 stars, so I can't use it yet anyway. But if scum can multitask it's moot anyway.
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Post Post #2567 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:17 am

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I don't think the ability to multitask affects the plan in question.

We're mostly just concerned with scum's ability to redirect (there are other abilities, I guess, but I feel like those mostly just cause false guilties and I'd hope no one would eliminate you on one of those, although I think it'd be hilarious).
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Post Post #2568 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:20 am

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This feels weird
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Post Post #2569 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:49 am

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In post 2568, Servant Alter Ego wrote:This feels weird
what feels weird?
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Post Post #2570 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:51 am

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I’m here and I’m fine with the plan of {send fruit if beast made it into pt, no fruit if did not make it into pt}
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Post Post #2571 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:54 am

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In post 2569, Servant Lancer wrote:
In post 2568, Servant Alter Ego wrote:This feels weird
what feels weird?
I don't understand what's going on right now unless Rider is just trolling us. I just made the game full auto and Rider and Beast are both responding enthusiastically, not like someone who is about to lose.
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Post Post #2572 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:17 pm

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I don’t know :/ as soon as Assassin sent the invite I was starting to have second thoughts but idk what else to do. I’m no good at being alive this late.
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Post Post #2573 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:37 pm

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is it time to hammer?
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Post Post #2574 (ISO) » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:37 pm

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It would have to be some wild shenanigans for us to lose at this point >.<

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