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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:03 am

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Posts like 346 make me question if I'm wrong.
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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:04 am

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Hectic's 341 is cleaner on Marci than my thinking has been so I like my meaningless vote a little better now.

Also +1 Hectic, excitations
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:07 am

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In a way, I kind of see it almost tactically beneficial to sign up for this game as an alt if you might possibly be perceived as a threat as town from scum in order to avoid being chosen for the first gun.

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This doesn't change your stance there, Toog?
Nope. Galron can say that as an attempt to see where slots vote and still shoot elsewhere. It's just as easily a gambit for them. I don't intend on voting at all. With as many scum as there are in the game, it's foolish to trust votes.
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:08 am

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In post 234, T3 wrote:
In post 226, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 217, Vulture wrote:
In post 216, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 213, Vulture wrote:
In post 210, HockeyFan wrote:Alright nvm im confused. Marci rolled scum in newbie 2061 and i actually like the tone of her early posts there. wtf, w/e im not putting too much stock into meta so

VOTE: Marci

<consider this a SR for now>
And what is the basis for your scumread after the last few posts?
Most of Marcis posts
Spoiler:
In post 123, marcistar wrote:
In post 114, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 110, marcistar wrote:
In post 10, T3 wrote:
Players in order of readability:

Really easy: Lukewarm, marcistar
offended, u just broke my heart :cry:
Just remember that he hard town read you in our last game
TRULY
im just multi talented

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In post 129, marcistar wrote:
In post 125, Lukewarm wrote:The last time I saw you post that exact gif, you were scum :eek:
actually?
:cry: do i not send it often? i know i send it to meuh kinda often its like my fave in the whole world AHAH
In post 141, marcistar wrote:
In post 132, T3 wrote:
In post 129, marcistar wrote:
In post 125, Lukewarm wrote:The last time I saw you post that exact gif, you were scum :eek:
actually?
:cry: do i not send it often? i know i send it to meuh kinda often its like my fave in the whole world AHAH
I hard townread you because I missed a post where you scumclaimed.
sir i never scumclaim (please say sike my confidence needs it :cry: :cry: :cry: )
In post 133, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 129, marcistar wrote:
In post 125, Lukewarm wrote:The last time I saw you post that exact gif, you were scum :eek:
actually?
:cry: do i not send it often? i know i send it to meuh kinda often its like my fave in the whole world AHAH
Yeah, the "last time I saw you post that exact gif" was in our first game together lol
ahh, dw i can post it in every game from here on if u want :cool:

luke r u scum
In post 169, marcistar wrote:
In post 168, Pavowski wrote:Marci could be scum for that gif alone; I'm gonna have nightmares.
only scum hate twerking alien :evil:


I dont like any of these quotes since they are either observations or filler. As for the whole sr based on tone, and stand out to me the most. The posts of marci's I didnt include are Marci just agreeing with everything Art said about luke which tbh I dont like either.
...so what about the content that she has posted, even if it is sparse. Do you agree/disagree with it?
Ok so the other /content/ that wasnt mentioned here that marci has posted is , and .

110- Not reading much into this as its ehr first post. A bunch of one liners that arent really alligment-indictivae. Its intresting tho that she was hunting for Luke partners right off the bat to set up possible misshots later?

181- They just sheeped Art's read on Luke here, and I dont really like that.

188- She said in 181 that she likes Art's point just to say in 188 she disagrees with it? sounds kinda wack. Also more of the lazy sheeping of Art's read on Luke

Coming to think of it, most of marci's content posts(and even some of her non content posts) are directed towards Luke/her read on him which is ??? Could be possible partners just interacting with each other as much as possible to get everyone else to TR them, not sure tho
I completely agree with your points about those posts sounding scummy [110 looks like a joke though]. Are they actually AI in the long run? I don't know.
I think hold off on pushing marci or at least don't shoot her until I've formed a solid read on her.
If Marci is scum this post is the worst one beyond the meta read ones. >_>
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:09 am

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I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:10 am

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FWIW, though, if it were any other player who were picked who had good reads I'd be like "yeah, scum would avoid them" but given that it's N_M I don't think that holds as much weight.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:13 am

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In post 227, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 226, HockeyFan wrote:Coming to think of it, most of marci's content posts(and even some of her non content posts) are directed towards Luke/her read on him which is ??? Could be possible partners just interacting with each other as much as possible to get everyone else to TR them, not sure tho
Just to put this out there. Marci and I are friends, and we coordinate joining games at the same time so we can play together.

So, I am suspicious of Marci, but the fact that she is interacting a bit more with me is not one of the reasons
I want to believe.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:14 am

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In post 352, Toogeloo wrote:In a way, I kind of see it almost tactically beneficial to sign up for this game as an alt if you might possibly be perceived as a threat as town from scum in order to avoid being chosen for the first gun.

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This doesn't change your stance there, Toog?
Nope. Galron can say that as an attempt to see where slots vote and still shoot elsewhere. It's just as easily a gambit for them. I don't intend on voting at all. With as many scum as there are in the game, it's foolish to trust votes.
How do you plan on making yourself look town then, in order to avoid being shot?
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:14 am

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I want to be shot.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:15 am

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In post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of them

I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:16 am

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In post 359, Hectic wrote:
In post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of them

I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
...I do think town!T3 would have that big of an ego but I also don't think he's town here anyways.

But yeah, he's been all flash and no substance all game.

Is that what that one Vulture with a hat/crown image was about? I couldn't make out that one.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:17 am

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In post 358, Toogeloo wrote:I want to be shot.
What happens if Galron mishoots and 1 more mishot loses town the game? What do you do then?
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:17 am

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I say, GG.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:19 am

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In post 360, Vulture wrote:
In post 359, Hectic wrote:
In post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of them

I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
...I do think town!T3 would have that big of an ego but I also don't think he's town here anyways.

But yeah, he's been all flash and no substance all game.

Is that what that one Vulture with a hat/crown image was about? I couldn't make out that one.
I think you'll find the that was a detective's hat and a towny crown, and yeah, it was investigating into Hockey's mind, and about T3's posts
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:21 am

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I hate the fact that I want to say Toogeloo is town for choosing to die on this hill. It wouldn't be difficult for scum to fake some reads here, and scum!Toog is basically gambiting on the fact we don't just policy them here since we do have 1 misshot left. While town!Toog doesn't care as much since they get the gun.. grumble gromble
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:26 am

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Alright Hectic is town.

All of Pav's reads seem sheepy and based on other peoples reads which could be scum sheeping town here. "Hockey's play is weird but I like T3's read on it so I'm inclined to agree that Hockey feels town for now" is an example from is an example. Also I dont really like 337 since that post implies hes wiling to keep all of his options open and not commit hard to a TR/SR.
In post 323, Pavowski wrote:Saturday morning hot take:

I'm still sitting in null on too many people: Toogelo, Vulture, Enchant.

To those 3: who would you absolutely not shoot today if you were holding the gun?
In post 330, Hectic wrote:Could everyone give 3 or 4 players they think are scum, and why?

I'm suspicious of players who have voiced minimal or few scumreads, despite the fact there are FOUR scumazzers out and about from a town player's perspective. Players that fall under this category include T3, marcistar, Toogeloo, and probably others

It's probably pretty difficult for scum to voice many scumreads here, given they either have to choose in the limited pool of townies, or give scumreads on their buds
My 4 scumreads would probs be Marci,Pav,Echant + 1. I really hate my sr's being this easy but I think some of these are right. It sucks that there is a scum in my tr's(basically everyone else in the game), but I dont think im willing to change my tr's atm
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:29 am

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I've been known to die on a lot of hills. It's not outside my scum range lol.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:31 am

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Maybe it's just my take on this setup but I don't think it makes sense to ask for the gun today as town

But then I have to WIFOM myself down the drain. Is Toog asking for the gun hoping to get the gun? Or are they asking for the gun hoping they won't get it?
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:33 am

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That's a very fair assessment, HockeyFan. I like Pav tonally but his content is iffy

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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:33 am

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In post 346, Lukewarm wrote:I think that the rep in makes hectic town.

I don't really think that there is a reason for scum!art to make the switch right now.

He was in no danger of being shot, and his art posts made it hard to read him, but in a way that you could not say was ai, because it was just the alt gimmick doing it.

So, maybe he would do it if his buddies were in danger, but I scrolled back to see who he might be saving, and I think marci scum reads were the most recent development happening in the thread, so the fact that she is the one he is pushing takes messes with that idea as well
This is the weirdest reason to TR someone but I think it comes from town because scum dont want to clear a townie based on smth like this
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:38 am

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In post 365, HockeyFan wrote:All of Pav's reads seem sheepy and based on other peoples reads which could be scum sheeping town here. "Hockey's play is weird but I like T3's read on it so I'm inclined to agree that Hockey feels town for now" is an example from 336 is an example. Also I dont really like 337 since that post implies hes wiling to keep all of his options open and not commit hard to a TR/SR.
This is just another one of those weird posts from Hockey. The thought process just doesn't make sense to me. You're welcome to SR me for "not committing hard", but, seriously...

Who, playing Mafia, doesn't keep their options open?
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:40 am

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*Waves hands at whatever this is.*
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:42 am

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In post 370, Pavowski wrote:
In post 365, HockeyFan wrote:All of Pav's reads seem sheepy and based on other peoples reads which could be scum sheeping town here. "Hockey's play is weird but I like T3's read on it so I'm inclined to agree that Hockey feels town for now" is an example from 336 is an example. Also I dont really like 337 since that post implies hes wiling to keep all of his options open and not commit hard to a TR/SR.
This is just another one of those weird posts from Hockey. The thought process just doesn't make sense to me. You're welcome to SR me for "not committing hard", but, seriously...

Who, playing Mafia, doesn't keep their options open?
Generally, scum like to keep their options open more. Means they have less explaining/faking to do on progressions down the line if they need to scumread someone they previous townread or vice versa

I think the main reason it's scum-indicative though is that most scum feel taking a hard stance one way or another feels more risky, and is more prone to criticism/suspicion. Being
open
on the read feels like the safer route which is harder to scumread for specific points
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:43 am

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In post 371, Vulture wrote:Image

*Waves hands at whatever this is.*
This is beautiful, a work of art

Here, I'll lend you my account and you can take my mantle as Art:

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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:47 am

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You lied to me.

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