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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:09 pm

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In post 196, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 65, Shrek wrote:tbh i think this is kind of flawed logic because t3 confessing that he lurks as scum could just be a gateway to him not lurking and gaining towncred that way like you said. like i played a game with him before where he was scum and he didnt lurk there so like. take that as you will.
People don't usually lie about their meta. At least in my experience. And once you've played a certain number of games, it's really hard to break your meta.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:09 pm

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In post 198, Shrek wrote:oh i see. well in that case ill just say that i dont think any of nero, t3, or roden could be scum partners with one another based off of their limited interactions thus far
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 121, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 120, Roden wrote:
In post 118, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 116, Roden wrote:I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team
VOTE: Roden
Nero associative?
Bad fake scum hunting?
In post 111, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 81, Roden wrote:Pressure on T3 isn't a bad idea, but he's more likely to sort himself for us. If he's scum he'll likely out himself the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives as well.

Can't say I'm good at actually reading him, but I've played enough games with him that I kinda know his meta. It's generally detrimental to scum to keep him around regardless of his alignment.
You're suggesting that "the longer the game goes on, and he's likely to form incriminating associatives" is a characteristic of T3 and not every player out there, so we should give T3 special treatment - only pressure, but
not eliminate
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I'll figure out what this all means as soon as I finish scraping my brain matter from the walls.
In post 107, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 29, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 28, T3 wrote:
In post 20, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'll be using a system I have used in other games in this game. I believe Norweigh is familiar with it since I used it in a game we played together.
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In post 31, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 14, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm gunna veto this, but still read it as Townie.
Scum?
BUDDIES?

These are the only 3 posts of relevance to the game they posted and they only voiced any kind of reasoning in 1 of them. The other 2 are just observations voiced in a way to spread suspicion.

I'll buy its their playstyle since they seem at least alert in the game. Still a scumlean at least in my book for now tohugh.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:11 pm

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Yeah 121 is bad. PoE probably the best way to sort their slot.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:12 pm

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In post 133, MegAzumarill wrote:Initial reactions:
Lickity: push on T3 seems weak, but they seem to be going about it in a town way,
Roden: seems townie but I don't think I can ever townbin them again.
Gamma: seems to want to move conversation forward, townread
Oof. I don't blame you tbh.
In post 137, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 128, Roden wrote:DGB I wanna avoid baselessly fighting with you this time around, considering Dwlee is in this game and I expect to argue with them as some point too. So I'll just give you my scum games so you can meta me if that makes things easier. If you still wanna fight then at least give me something with substance.

Scum games are Newbie 2066, 2070, and 2073. Everyone else is free to do homework as well if they want.

Meta is rubbish.


- DGB in every game meta is brought up.
Meh. I can only bring a horse to water.
In post 140, Nero Cain wrote:Imy initial reaction was that roden was scummy for buddying up to t3 but t3 kinda chainsaw defending roden and pushing me based on some posting frequency bull makes real worried that I was wrong and t3 is scum
Oh T3 could definitely be scum, don't get me wrong. I'm just usually casual like this with him since nearly all my games have included him and he was my first scum buddy on this site. But like I said, I think he just needs to simmer, we'll figure out his alignment sooner rather than later.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:13 pm

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In post 203, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah 121 is bad. PoE probably the best way to sort their slot.
Isn't that generally just how Town ends up winning most of that time? Re:PoE?
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 198, Shrek wrote:
In post 195, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 192, Shrek wrote:
In post 186, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 177, Shrek wrote:for that notion i don't see nero and roden/t3 having partner equity in the slightest, which is why i'm putting him the highest outta everyone.
This doesn't add up unless you have T3 and roden as scum reads, which you didn't? Maybe I'm misunderstanding the logic?
in the hypothetical situation that one of t3 or roden is scum (or nero is scum), he would not be a scum partner with either of those two. am i using partner equity incorrectly?
Yes incorrectly in that Nero still has scum equity for other reasons. Like if I said Roden is town because he's not partnered with x and y then my logic is missing all the other teams he could be part of not including x and y.
oh i see. well in that case ill just say that i dont think any of nero, t3, or roden could be scum partners with one another based off of their limited interactions thus far
This kinda reads like TMI tbh. How do you know Nero vs T3 isn't scum theatre or that Nero vs me isn't distancing?
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:17 pm

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In post 205, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 203, CheekyTeeky wrote:Yeah 121 is bad. PoE probably the best way to sort their slot.
Isn't that generally just how Town ends up winning most of that time? Re:PoE?
Town usually wins by finding each other and coming to consensus on scum elims. PoE is used by individuals in the town to determine their own reads.

I feel like this is the second fillerish question you've asked now. You're back to the void.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:19 pm

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Dragon of the West, when you've read up on the game could you give your thoughts?
Would love to hear your thoughts about Cheeky/Lickity in particular.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:21 pm

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Nero/LQ/Norwee?
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:22 pm

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In post 209, CheekyTeeky wrote:Nero/LQ/Norwee?
LOL. Is that supposed to be rule of 3 or something?
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:22 pm

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where did Norweigh go anyways?
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:23 pm

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Lq is town and cheeky is either manufacturing content or it's just really bad
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 212, Nero Cain wrote:Lq is town and cheeky is either manufacturing content or it's just really bad
Why is it bad?
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:24 pm

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In post 212, Nero Cain wrote:Lq is town and cheeky is either manufacturing content or it's just really bad

Shhhhhhh I want to hear DoTW reads on those two before we discuss further.

They've been online for 18 min now after initial post so it shouldn't be long for them to catch up.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:26 pm

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I think it's on the fake side will go into greater depth when I'm on a desktop
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:27 pm

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In post 177, Shrek wrote: null:
roden - nero does have some point in that they came off as buddy buddy to t3, but that's pretty much the biggest and only point on them. i'd like to see him contribute to the thread and give out more reads at the moment because i want more info
I won't have a reads list until tomorrow, it's way too early for me to have one that's actually worth anything.

Why are you giving Nero's words so much weight, btw? He accused us of being scum buddies out of the blue, which you ignored, and now you're deferring to him to form your read on me?
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:27 pm

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Oh hell no.
VOTE: Nero
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:29 pm

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Sorta feeling like Cheeky is either Town or SvS with Nero.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:29 pm

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This is Nero's scumgame. He's about to start his tunnel on me to look like he's doing something for the rest of D1. This is a legit replay of the last time we were TvS.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:30 pm

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Tbf my words are very heavy. U must be strong to carry them
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:31 pm

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Urge to vote Nero rising...
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:31 pm

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What game was that,kiwi?
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:32 pm

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In post 121, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 120, Roden wrote:
In post 118, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 116, Roden wrote:I'm panicking that you already figured out the scum team
VOTE: Roden
Nero associative?
Bad fake scum hunting?
In post 107, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 29, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 28, T3 wrote:
In post 20, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'll be using a system I have used in other games in this game. I believe Norweigh is familiar with it since I used it in a game we played together.
LOCKTOWN
TMI?
In post 31, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 14, LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm gunna veto this, but still read it as Townie.
Scum?
BUDDIES?
In post 200, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 196, Dragon of the West wrote:
In post 65, Shrek wrote:tbh i think this is kind of flawed logic because t3 confessing that he lurks as scum could just be a gateway to him not lurking and gaining towncred that way like you said. like i played a game with him before where he was scum and he didnt lurk there so like. take that as you will.
People don't usually lie about their meta. At least in my experience. And once you've played a certain number of games, it's really hard to break your meta.
I mean, people's scum play can just be them doing their best to mimic their town play. In that scenario, meta means nothing beyond knowing how the person usually talks/reacts to things. But that's not something the person can teach you via self-meta
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:32 pm

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I remember whenever I get death tunneled by scum as town. Sadly you're not the only one who managed to pull it off.
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