Mini 2231: Radio Buzz | Game Over!

[Gamma Emerald]

Why?
This early on I think standing your ground on a read like this would be town indicative

[ssbm_Kyouko]

If Tetrina was invited to this game by MT from an irl playgroup, the radio callers may also be members of that group, btw.

Does it matter?

I think it could be helpful either way Tetrina is aligned.

[Ydrasse]

Why?
This early on I think standing your ground on a read like this would be town indicative

i don't think i agree? to me i see it as... early on people should be more willing to compromise because new perspectives on low information are more worthwhile versus down the line when things are more... 'concrete'

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I’d expect scum to want to be flexible on their reads in the early game, and maybe make stronger fake pushes once they know where they can probably get a miselim to happen

[skitter30]

eh i have thoguhts on the difference between perpetual elo and say tarot/the mini normal but i'm nto sure how much i want to go into that tbh

[Ydrasse]

also if it's about skitt being happy she rolled town then she did the exact same thing really early on in perpetual melo and she had had some pretty bad scumgames before that (at least divide and conquer, i think there was another)

pedit: i just don't get why the same logic would apply to skitt.

and fair enough skitt

those games stood chances in a way the other two... really didnt so

i think we're going to go around in circles about this regardless

[Infinity 324]

i feel like town her would be a bit more... willing to think about it or humor it instead of going "no, no, i disagree"?

i don't know if she'd feel obligated to keep on going because she doesn't wanna look flaky

to me it's an argument about how scum express their emotions, and i think it takes a lot of evidence to argue that scum would want to hide their true emotions because showing your true emotions is the easier thing to do. i've seen skitt have a similar tone to this arguing as scum too. i just don't think there's anything to your read really

[Ydrasse]

perpetual elo haunts my dreams i wake up sweating bullets thinking about how even being a passenger along for the ride in that scum ame was stressful

[Tetrina]

i'm saying that in the universe it is, i don't think town comes into this game with the associative that 'malefactor' -> scum

sure, but if that isn't scum's flavor name, your reasoning kinda falls apart, no?

i'll wait for ssbm to answer about the traitor thing, but your first point is answered pretty well imo by 107, specifically the part where she says she reread the npc conversation after she realized one of them was scum. this also means she'd specifically be attuned to potential slips or traitor crumbs, so it makes sense that she'd try to read into those messages even though they may have been NAI. idk, i don't really see why you're that confident that town wouldn't be attuned to the word malefactor.

i also am suspicious of the "trying to get the game going explanation", given your tone and point-by-point responses i think you were at least trying to get a wagon on ssbm and potentially an elim.

i'm also suspicious of your scumvibes on me, normally you're very good at correctly townreading me and though i'm not 100% sure you should be townreading me here, i think it's likely that you would be as town

Wth is the last part? Is she trying to manipulate skitter into thinking she's town

[skitter30]

ehhhhhhhhh i don't think i show my true emotions as scum for the most part

[Ydrasse]

i feel like town her would be a bit more... willing to think about it or humor it instead of going "no, no, i disagree"?

i don't know if she'd feel obligated to keep on going because she doesn't wanna look flaky

to me it's an argument about how scum express their emotions, and i think it takes a lot of evidence to argue that scum would want to hide their true emotions because showing your true emotions is the easier thing to do. i've seen skitt have a similar tone to this arguing as scum too. i just don't think there's anything to your read really

meh, i think the ways that scum express emotions are very helpful to me, whether it's the order that they do it, what they do or don't show, etc

sometimes you're faking them and sometimes you do let them bleed through and in this instance idgi regarding exasperated on page 10 skitter letting that bleed through early as some proto-ate

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: infinity

:<

[skitter30]

anyway i have a townread on ydrasse now, yay

[Ydrasse]

skitter finally townreading me in a game

[skitter30]

yay

!!!!!

[Infinity 324]

sometimes you're faking them and sometimes you do let them bleed through and in this instance idgi regarding exasperated on page 10 skitter letting that bleed through early as some proto-ate

quotes?

i may be too scared of skitt and just trying to shut down any reason to tr her that i don't like. for perspective, i'm probably not going to tr her this early almost no matter what.

[Ydrasse]

Oh, *please* explain that

VOTE: skitter30

sigh, ok why

[skitter30]

uh i may have some issues with that approach?

[Ydrasse]

ya

[Tetrina]

Why is skitter so scary

[Tetrina]

I was planning on following her today

[skitter30]

i have a strong scumgame

[Tetrina]

But not this game yeah?

[skitter30]

nah :)

[Infinity 324]

@ydrasse ah ok.

i still think it's a bit weak to townread skitt for. she may even think the exasperation benefits her, either because it makes her a bit harder to push, or because she thinks it'll be seen as a genuine response to pressure and less robotic. there's a few too many question marks here for me to put weight on your read, sorry

I am also cautiously townreading ydrasse. i'll make an effort to try to switch off of the skitt stuff for now, you can help by asking me about a specific read you're curious about

also, to people who aren't understanding the meta stuff, if you want me to try to summarize something, or engage you about something else, i'd be happy to.