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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:49 am

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In post 470, rousseau wrote:
In post 464, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Tetrina elevated to TR
this line of questioning from tetrina actually was A+ because like

the answer is 'i'm not scum'

but they both assigned a lot of words to things that were not that

and now the mind wonders
The question wasn’t “am I scum”, it was “would a Gamma/Infinity partnership make sense to you”
Which is a unique question (and probably town because of that) because asking someone to analyze a POV that generally they wouldn’t be willing to entertain seems like 90ish% of the time you won’t get an answer like I gave. I consider myself an exceptional case of a player who is self-conscious enough to genuinely be able to consider whether I’d approach things in certain ways as scum when I’m town
This kinda became a ramble because I generally don’t feel like I get much of a chance to expand on this part of my play these days
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:50 am

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In post 425, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Stolen
It's nice to have pagetop votecounts, congrats on the srlf-own.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:54 am

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In post 425, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Stolen
In post 430, Infinity 324 wrote:ydrasse people have "come together" to scumread me d1 in many games you've been a part of and every time i've been town. why are you deluding yourself into thinking it's right this time
In my heart I know this is AI but my head doesn't know which way it swings.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:56 am

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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:56 am

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In post 475, Gamma Emerald wrote:The question wasn’t “am I scum”, it was “would a Gamma/Infinity partnership make sense to you”
Which is a unique question (and probably town because of that) because asking someone to analyze a POV that generally they wouldn’t be willing to entertain seems like 90ish% of the time you won’t get an answer like I gave. I consider myself an exceptional case of a player who is self-conscious enough to genuinely be able to consider whether I’d approach things in certain ways as scum when I’m town
This kinda became a ramble because I generally don’t feel like I get much of a chance to expand on this part of my play these days
the question, as it was posed to you, was:
In post 461, Tetrina wrote:Hmm okay Gamma do you think you and Infinity as 2 scums makes sense?
so to me the expected answer would be

'no i do not think we do because i am not scum regardless of infinity's alignment'
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:58 am

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In post 479, rousseau wrote:'no i do not think we do because i am not scum regardless of infinity's alignment'
or simply 'i'm not scum'
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:58 am

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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:00 am

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In post 425, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Stolen
In post 430, Infinity 324 wrote:ydrasse people have "come together" to scumread me d1 in many games you've been a part of and every time i've been town. why are you deluding yourself into thinking it's right this time
In post 455, rousseau wrote:
In post 453, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:DGB's skitter vote bugged me as potentially opportunistic and there's also something that looks like theater going on between it and Galron
this definitely a +partner equity vote for drippinggoofball/skitter

like drippinggoofball definitely knows that sort of early unexplained e-2 makes those on the wagon wary and diverts attention
You know this wagon wasn't going through on page 12. That is something I "definitely know." If your working hypothesis is that I am a cunning scum player, I just wait it out. It's a RVS lulzwagon.

Now the reactions, those are potentially interesting. It did cause players to take firmer stances.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:04 am

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In post 482, DrippingGoofball wrote:You know this wagon wasn't going through on page 12. That is something I "definitely know." If your working hypothesis is that I am a cunning scum player, I just wait it out. It's a RVS lulzwagon.

Now the reactions, those are potentially interesting. It did cause players to take firmer stances.
i probably should have used definitely 0 times in that post instead of 2
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:04 am

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In post 385, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 349, Infinity 324 wrote:@ydrasse ah ok.

i still think it's a bit weak to townread skitt for. she may even think the exasperation benefits her, either because it makes her a bit harder to push, or because she thinks it'll be seen as a genuine response to pressure and less robotic. there's a few too many question marks here for me to put weight on your read, sorry

I am also cautiously townreading ydrasse. i'll make an effort to try to switch off of the skitt stuff for now, you can help by asking me about a specific read you're curious about

also, to people who aren't understanding the meta stuff, if you want me to try to summarize something, or engage you about something else, i'd be happy to.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 480, rousseau wrote:
In post 479, rousseau wrote:'no i do not think we do because i am not scum regardless of infinity's alignment'
or simply 'i'm not scum'
I interpreted the question differently then, mostly because “I’m not scum” felt against the intent of the question
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:08 am

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In post 406, rousseau wrote:
In post 404, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 399, rousseau wrote:what is the word for when everyone simultaneously wheels on infinity and it feels orchestrated but the individuals don't feel like mafia
Chinese fire drill/flash wagon?
too hard to make sense of even with the big magnifying glass

like sure drippinggoofball + one of wheelers likely skitter partners if skitter mafia? but eh

if infinity mafia wheelers likely town

it just, like, everyone appeared from disparate places to scumread infinity at approximately the same time and other than tetrina also put effort into those scumreads and it does not feel particularly like that's just how things happen ya know
This CT comes from town more likely than not.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:08 am

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It's been my experience that infinity is an "easy scumread" - a weakness that scum would definitely exploit.

Infinity, have you had a disproportionate number of scum on your final wagons? Including scum that suspects you but may be voting elsewhere for cover?
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:09 am

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CT?
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:10 am

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In post 487, DrippingGoofball wrote:It's been my experience that infinity is an "easy scumread" - a weakness that scum would definitely exploit.

Infinity, have you had a disproportionate number of scum on your final wagons? Including scum that suspects you but may be voting elsewhere for cover?
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:13 am

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In post 423, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 414, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 400, Infinity 324 wrote:how do you distinguish between a white knight and just me townreading you
@ssbm
White knighting is used to counterattack skitter here. Essentially the same words could be used to TR me in a different context, where I'm not being pushed by skitter, and that's the distinction. It's because it's tied into your push on skitter who was pushing me at the time. You were using a defense of me in your push on skitter, rather than just explaining a TR on me. It's the context of the words that distinguishes the wk from the tr

VOTE: infinity I want to do this or DGB right now in the interest of consolidating a bit
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:14 am

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In post 484, Galron wrote:
In post 385, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 349, Infinity 324 wrote:@ydrasse ah ok.

i still think it's a bit weak to townread skitt for. she may even think the exasperation benefits her, either because it makes her a bit harder to push, or because she thinks it'll be seen as a genuine response to pressure and less robotic. there's a few too many question marks here for me to put weight on your read, sorry

I am also cautiously townreading ydrasse. i'll make an effort to try to switch off of the skitt stuff for now, you can help by asking me about a specific read you're curious about

also, to people who aren't understanding the meta stuff, if you want me to try to summarize something, or engage you about something else, i'd be happy to.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:14 am

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In post 487, DrippingGoofball wrote:Infinity, have you had a disproportionate number of scum on your final wagons? Including scum that suspects you but may be voting elsewhere for cover?
hmm i haven't kept track, i tend to look at individual reasoning more than things like this.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:17 am

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DGB and Galron’s current posting is making me feel like kyouko may have a point
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:19 am

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In post 493, Gamma Emerald wrote:DGB and Galron’s current posting is making me feel like kyouko may have a point
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:21 am

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In post 490, Galron wrote:
In post 423, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 414, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 400, Infinity 324 wrote:how do you distinguish between a white knight and just me townreading you
@ssbm
White knighting is used to counterattack skitter here. Essentially the same words could be used to TR me in a different context, where I'm not being pushed by skitter, and that's the distinction. It's because it's tied into your push on skitter who was pushing me at the time. You were using a defense of me in your push on skitter, rather than just explaining a TR on me. It's the context of the words that distinguishes the wk from the tr

VOTE: infinity I want to do this or DGB right now in the interest of consolidating a bit
DGB? Seriously? I think the call on Cephrir is probably a good one, and I'm going to sheep it in a minute.
why are you so in arms over dgb :<
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:21 am

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In post 453, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Galron I think should have a different view of me based on his stance around the communications from the callers. He said they're a distraction and town should not abide a distraction taking hold of the thread
What is my view of you? I'm not even sure I've got a read on you yet, but I do have a view. I'll tell you about it after you tell me what you think it is.

I believe the initial communications were a distraction, yes, put there for color. Whether the subsequent ones are relevant, no idea yet.
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:25 am

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VOTE: Galron
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