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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:28 am

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I agree that rolled town roles shouldn't out (at least, not yet.) Saying you rolled a town role is fine, but I'd rather if scum didn't know what we have. Exception: If you rolled town and a miller-like modifier, I think we should out those(alignment and mod) but not the PR.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:29 am

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In post 49, JamesTheNames wrote:I won't disclose my second role, but, I rolled a 6, ____, 7. So I'm useless on odd nights.
Did you get your own role/roll?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:30 am

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In post 51, Marashu wrote:
In post 49, JamesTheNames wrote:I won't disclose my second role, but, I rolled a 6, ____, 7. So I'm useless on odd nights.
Did you get your own role/roll?
I did my roll*.
Also do you mean my original role?
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:30 am

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In post 49, JamesTheNames wrote:I won't disclose my second role, but, I rolled a 6, ____, 7. So I'm useless on odd nights.
ok i can do this thanks BTW . 7 ,___ ,1
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:30 am

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Wow my typing is terrible, I did mean my roll*.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:32 am

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In post 50, Marashu wrote:I agree that rolled town roles shouldn't out (at least, not yet.) Saying you rolled a town role is fine, but I'd rather if scum didn't know what we have. Exception: If you rolled town and a miller-like modifier, I think we should out those(alignment and mod) but not the PR.
thank you glade some one agrees . i think this comes from a pro team BTW.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:34 am

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I think both are fine actually, this mode makes it really easy to lie about your role and rolls. Both can be used in different ways to bluff. Giving either, from my eyes, is Green.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:47 am

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Hello my fellow townies.
I rolled cult bus driver (2 modfiers). [19,17,20] And I'm upset for obvious reasons
I'm pretty sure that's one of the 5 fudged rolls because it seems super strong.
Let's get this show on the road.

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:49 am

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The reason we need full rolls is for cases like James' roll. Functionally we cant tell the difference between James roll and Marashu's roll because 1 number from 5 rolls has been changed. By him claiming a blank middle number, we wont be able to tell if a flipped role matches his original roll or if it matches Marashu's roll with the 2nd die modified.

I wouldn't be surprised if James or someone on James' team advised him to claim in this way to muddy the waters

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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:56 am

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In post 50, Marashu wrote:I agree that rolled town roles shouldn't out (at least, not yet.) Saying you rolled a town role is fine, but I'd rather if scum didn't know what we have. Exception: If you rolled town and a miller-like modifier, I think we should out those(alignment and mod) but not the PR.
I went back and checked, I dont think there is any way for anti-town to play around knowing what roles went to town. There's also no guarantee the roles went to town or that the roles/modifiers were the same due to the 5 fudged rolls
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 6:57 am

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In post 58, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:The reason we need full rolls is for cases like James' roll. Functionally we cant tell the difference between James roll and Marashu's roll because 1 number from 5 rolls has been changed. By him claiming a blank middle number, we wont be able to tell if a flipped role matches his original roll or if it matches Marashu's roll with the 2nd die modified.

I wouldn't be surprised if James or someone on James' team advised him to claim in this way to muddy the waters

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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:03 am

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Cyrus what was your 2nd dice?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:04 am

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I'm just going to ask this to double check that I understand this fully, I'm pretty sure I do.
Let's say I rolled a 1,1,1 this means just a bog standard vanilla town.
That role is then added to a pool of 13 total roles, and those new roles are given out randomly.
Is my understanding of this correct? I just need it double checked.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 62, JamesTheNames wrote:I'm just going to ask this to double check that I understand this fully, I'm pretty sure I do.
Let's say I rolled a 1,1,1 this means just a bog standard vanilla town.
That role is then added to a pool of 13 total roles, and those new roles are given out randomly.
Is my understanding of this correct? I just need it double checked.
Yes, and there is a possibility that one of those three 1s was changed by the mod to make the setup balanced. The mod changed 1 die each on 5 different rolls before reshuffling the resultant roles to the players
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:07 am

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In post 63, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 62, JamesTheNames wrote:I'm just going to ask this to double check that I understand this fully, I'm pretty sure I do.
Let's say I rolled a 1,1,1 this means just a bog standard vanilla town.
That role is then added to a pool of 13 total roles, and those new roles are given out randomly.
Is my understanding of this correct? I just need it double checked.
Yes, and there is a possibility that one of those three 1s was changed by the mod to make the setup balanced. The mod changed 1 die each on 5 different rolls before reshuffling the resultant roles to the players
Okay good, I was contemplating revealing the 2nd roll I got and ended up overthinking and getting mixed up.
I figured because original role wouldn't be very strong I may aswell just reveal it.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:09 am

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So if Town Even-Night [Role] flips, we dont know if it was your or Marashu's roll. If you tell us you rolled a 3 - JOAT, then if we see a Town Even-Night JOAT flip, it's reasonable to assume it was your roll and not Marashu's that had the Parity Cop fudged into a JOAT
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:09 am

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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:18 am

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I think Cyrus has made his role easy to speculate. and . I reckon he rolled an 18-20. That's just my speculation, he can verify if wants to but he doesn't have to. If he isn't going to tell us there's no point hovering focus on him when it could be used better elsewhere.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:22 am

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Actually I'm actually pretty sure its a 7. I'm pretty sure he rolled a Town PGO with no modifications. 7, 7, 1. Ignore my .
I find it strange if it is the case that he wouldn't out the role existing if he were town.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:22 am

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Stay the course on mega
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:23 am

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In post 61, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Cyrus what was your 2nd dice?
wont say its just better that way. trip wires only work if no one knows.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:24 am

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In post 68, JamesTheNames wrote:Actually I'm actually pretty sure its a 7. I'm pretty sure he rolled a Town PGO with no modifications. 7, 7, 1. Ignore my .
I find it strange if it is the case that he wouldn't out the role existing if he were town.
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this makes me think you got my roll.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:26 am

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yes 7,7,1 but now scum know thanks alot now the trick wont work gee.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:27 am

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VOTE: everyone who postedfor role fishing . gee you guys going give the baddies the advantage.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:32 am

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In post 72, cyrus62 wrote:yes 7,7,1 but now scum know thanks alot now the trick wont work gee.
PGO is basically a town sided Jester. Their job is to get targetted during the Night, similar to a Jester being hammered during the day. Knowing it exists allows more room for town to play and importantly bluff. Let's say we had a really strong town role, if they convinced non-town players that they were the PGO, all of a sudden they're immune to Night Kills (theoretically). If non-town didn't know of the PGO's existence, that strong town role would just be Night Killed.

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