Mini 2230: Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night: Game Over


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Post Post #4975 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 4974, Snarky Fishes wrote:we didn't we didn't expect lose outright after day 3 BY ELIMMING SCUM.
The salt levels here and there are the same. Getting punished for playing to town's wincon fucking sucks.

I did ask ye a Q though, want to see if you get to where we get.
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Post Post #4976 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:18 pm

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I'm at dragons and somebody else.

I am tilted at Unwnd and Rhea. Unwnd because grocery store scum. Rhea because I respect their town game enough that I just don't understand how they could be so off the whole game in terms of reads.

-Bell.
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Post Post #4977 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 4975, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 4974, Snarky Fishes wrote:we didn't we didn't expect lose outright after day 3 BY ELIMMING SCUM.
The salt levels here and there are the same. Getting punished for playing to town's wincon fucking sucks.

I did ask ye a Q though, want to see if you get to where we get.
I saw your question but I'm out of spoons atm. Partly my good friend insomnia and partly "Getting punished for playing to town's wincon fucking sucks."

Hopefully the pupwalk will clear my head.
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Post Post #4978 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 4976, Snarky Fishes wrote:I'm at dragons and somebody else.
..You think town has no desharding role?
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Post Post #4979 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 4977, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 4975, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 4974, Snarky Fishes wrote:we didn't we didn't expect lose outright after day 3 BY ELIMMING SCUM.
The salt levels here and there are the same. Getting punished for playing to town's wincon fucking sucks.

I did ask ye a Q though, want to see if you get to where we get.
I saw your question but I'm out of spoons atm. Partly my good friend insomnia and partly "Getting punished for playing to town's wincon fucking sucks."

Hopefully the pupwalk will clear my head.
Fair. Want to skip to my conclusions instead?
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Post Post #4980 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:20 pm

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I would like to just draw attention to Annie's stances on AA9, in the context of Spiff's case on AA9 and also when me and manatee discovered proper evidence that she was a deshard back up

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Annie was hard lock town for AA9 since Medea pointed out their old game.

Spiffeh made his case on AA9 being the corrupter in post

Here is every post Annie made about AA9 prior to the flavor claim with manatee
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In post 4134, Annie Edison wrote:Hi spiffy, long time listener first time caller

Why does scum-AA9 claim receiving the shards in the first place
In post 4139, Annie Edison wrote:I’m chewing on it. I know I saw those parallels to the game Medea shared in her ISO, snd the only way I think scum her would know how to perfectly mirror 7 year old meta is if she somehow remembered it or was catering to it. I suppose there’s the old “well y’all just butt heads” argument, but it’s so similar it’s weird to think about.

I’d been mulling it through since I saw people claiming corrupted too.

Your theory does make sense, I’m just trying to reconcile it with my read.
In post 4591, Annie Edison wrote:AA9. (But manatee because I have way more tinfoil thoughts there)

I have a clear on Spiffeh and Medea doesn’t make sense as scum with Pooky.


To be clear, in post 4591, like 400 posts after the spiffeh case, Annie explicitly says that they think that MANATEE is more likely to be scum then AA9


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And then they do not mention AA9 for another like 200 posts.

Manatee and I discover the flavor evidence around post

Annie, nearly immediately after this has an appifany that it is just AA9

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In post 4794, Annie Edison wrote:He said it’s POE.

I’m leaning towards AA9. I got hit with insomnia and spun out and reread some stuff. I think I want to trust the mouse. I think the novice discussion is a roundabout way to avoid the truth that she was demonized N1, she didn’t claim until after Rhea was outed. I’m going to think some more as the day goes on, but that’s where I’m at. We need to hit the corrupter. She makes the most sense.
In post 4808, Annie Edison wrote:It’s bordering the lines of what I can believe to think that she simultaneously knows nothing about the setup but had the awareness to claim receiving shards after Rhea did.
In post 4820, Annie Edison wrote:@medea you’re going to need to give me the hard sell. The only other elim I’d be okay with is unwnd.
In post 4823, Annie Edison wrote:Help me kill AA9, unwnd.
In post 4835, Annie Edison wrote:I’m not doing the desharder plan. We kill the corrupter. It’s our only way forward.

We kill AA9.
In post 4845, Annie Edison wrote:I want to kill the corrupter who I think is either aa9 or unwnd while heavily leaning the former.
In post 4893, Annie Edison wrote:Ffery what are your thoughts on spiffys Aa9 wall
In post 4924, Annie Edison wrote:Aa9 or bust.


The timing of that turn around from "I am just not sure that it can be AA9" to ready to bet the entire game on "AA9 or bust" is suspicious to me.


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Just, side note, Annie was on and around when me and manatee went on our flavor journey.

Annie makes just before the discovery, weighing in on my covo with Unwnd. Annie also makes 4788 just after the discovery. And there is radio silence on the luke/manatee convo. He then comes back the next morning, with his reversal on AA9 (moving the conversation past the manatee flavor stuff)
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Post Post #4981 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:21 pm

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Everyone can see it Luke it’s literally been all I’ve been doing today
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Post Post #4982 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm

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Sorry you feel bad about that FF.
I still can't relate to being mad at set up stuff. This is also inverted in terms of roles, where in tenet the town was unbelievably powerful and that sheer unbelievability led to town miselims.
Here, town is pretty weak and I've not really see anyone claim anything that feels incompatiable with the game in terms of roles. I also find that the flavor fits the roles rather well from the claim's we've had so far.
With the exception of Medea who isn't an NPC but just a millerish-monster.
Even Alfred makes sense. But FF said I shouldn't think about the flavor and just instant gib Dragons for flavor claiming scum.

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Post Post #4983 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:25 pm

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In post 4981, Annie Edison wrote:Everyone can see it Luke it’s literally been all I’ve been doing today
You did not mention that you thought it was aa9 until 12 hours ago. I would not say that its what you have been doing all day. And now you are ready to bet the game on it
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Post Post #4984 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:25 pm

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In post 4982, Snarky Fishes wrote:But FF said I shouldn't think about the flavor and just instant gib Dragons for flavor claiming scum.
How so?
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Post Post #4985 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:26 pm

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In post 4978, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 4976, Snarky Fishes wrote:I'm at dragons and somebody else.
..You think town has no desharding role?
I find the idea of dominque scum replaced in the shop by Anne town more compelling than I'd like to admit while being in a hydra with someone I respect. :(
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Post Post #4986 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:27 pm

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OK I just read her wiki page. I can see the angle.
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Post Post #4987 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:27 pm

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In post 4976, Snarky Fishes wrote:I'm at dragons and somebody else.

I am tilted at Unwnd and Rhea. Unwnd because grocery store scum. Rhea because I respect their town game enough that I just don't understand how they could be so off the whole game in terms of reads.

-Bell.
I am not sure why you are leaning scum on the dragons, but if that is something that people are considering, realize my plan involves the dragons dying today for it to work.

So, if you are right we kill scum today!
If you are wrong, then my plan is triggered!
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Post Post #4988 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:27 pm

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If my flavor was a scum claim the mod would give me a safe flavor to claim so clearly whether I'm town or not the mod thinks my flavor is not a scum clain
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Post Post #4989 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:28 pm

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In post 4982, Snarky Fishes wrote:With the exception of Medea who isn't an NPC but just a millerish-monster.
We're a monster that explicitly aids the player instead of attacking them. Seriously, go wiki us when not around minors.

Here's the relevant lines:
Rul'sha is unlike many enemies in the game, as she won't initially attack the player. If the player waits in a room with Rul'sha long enough, she will bless the player with a temporary stat boost before warping away. If the player chooses to attack her, Rul'sha will begin to float around the room and attack with her whip. Familiars will attack her on sight, but she won't turn hostile until the player attacks her.


Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 4978, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 4976, Snarky Fishes wrote:I'm at dragons and somebody else.
..You think town has no desharding role?
I find the idea of dominque scum replaced in the shop by Anne town more compelling than I'd like to admit while being in a hydra with someone I respect. :(
Pooky voted cephtd btw.
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Post Post #4990 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:28 pm

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All Day as in TODAY

Like, most of the people here spin the game through their minds even when they aren’t in the thread. I had two throwaway comments because my worldview was in such turmoil I wanted to sleep and come back decisively. No going back.

Like yeah, timing looks sus snd I can’t argue that but multiple people here can attest to insomnia because games keep spinning snd it’s already been brought up how much pressure I put on myself
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Post Post #4991 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:29 pm

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In post 4978, Medea the Alien wrote:
In post 4976, Snarky Fishes wrote:I'm at dragons and somebody else.
..You think town has no desharding role?
I think Bell's actually scumreading dragons.

I'm not, but there is some attraction to Luke's plan to have a working desharder immediately after this day ends. Best case without that would be (assuming unwnd's town) unwnd shards dragons N4 and dragons can remove shards starting N5. I doubt the sharding would resolve before night 4 ends.

From the perspective of there being one optimal use of sharding by town, it makes sense that unwnd would be one-shot.

Sort of like apparently there was one optimal use of our ability. :/
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Post Post #4992 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:29 pm

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In post 4984, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4982, Snarky Fishes wrote:But FF said I shouldn't think about the flavor and just instant gib Dragons for flavor claiming scum.
How so?
Grammar fail.
I meant that I would instant kill Dragons for flavor claiming dominque who I tend to think of as an antagonist in blood-stained with Anne being a fairly obvious back up. Helpful NPC.

For example Alfred as a one shot-double sharder also makes sense as town as a sort of mislead because in blood stained the protagonist misunderstood alfred's goals and spent a lot of time chasing after him. A sort of flavor miller.

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Post Post #4993 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:30 pm

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In post 4982, Snarky Fishes wrote:I also find that the flavor fits the roles rather well from the claim's we've had so far.
With the exception of Medea who isn't an NPC but just a millerish-monster.
Even Alfred makes sense. But FF said I shouldn't think about the flavor and just instant gib Dragons for flavor claiming scum.

-Bell
Wait until you get to the wiki page for my character
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Post Post #4994 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:31 pm

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In post 4989, Medea the Alien wrote:We're a monster that explicitly aids the player instead of attacking them. Seriously, go wiki us when not around minors.
I'm aware.
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Post Post #4995 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:31 pm

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HOLY FUCK I MISSED THIS

...Why can't we just have unwnd target an already demon player?

You DO get a shard count, not just if you're a dmeon or not, at each day start...

Better question, why the fuck hans't unwnd already done so to confirm himself?
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Post Post #4996 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:32 pm

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I thought shards cap at 2?
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Post Post #4997 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:33 pm

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Because I didn't want to make more demons, so I holstered. I didn't think about double dipping.

While you're at it, make dragons Deshard them too.
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Post Post #4998 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:34 pm

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What was your claim again Dunn?

We're both aware. Of your character Medea. I'm just noting that you're the only player who has claimed a monster who I don't think has any dialogue? Everybody else is a protag, antag, or npc.

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Post Post #4999 (ISO) » Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:35 pm

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I see 4995.

And I'm headed out with the pup. If I'm back in less than 45 minutes you can assume that pippin hates you all and hopes you step in dog poop.

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