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[Nathann]

Additionally, I skimmed his iso in his 2 newbie games, 1 he is town, the other he is scum, and I feel like he as a person associates "vote-parking" with a scummy behavior from reading his iso here and in the 2 newbies. He opens the game vote parking here, and I feel like the reason he associates it with scummy behavior is because it is what he is inclined to do as scum.

Speaking of your case, I meant to ask this earlier but I forgot. What do you mean by "vote parking"? They did announce that they're gonna park their vote at one point, but they've actually been moving their vote around fairly often, at least in the beginning.

[Andresvmb]

the andres progression looks bad to me. they didn't want to go there, but let themselves get persuaded

This is what happens when you don’t read carefully enough.

My comment had nothing to do with the actual vote. Your interpretation of my progression (which is meh anyway) is based on the faulty assumption that I expressed misgivings about voting Kazyan. I never actually did.

[Enchant]

Okay, out of the people that have any votes on them, this is probably my preferred course of action: VOTE: Enchant Though I'd be lying if I said I have too much hope in this flipping Red at this point.

I don't want to vote Kazyan because of Obvious Reasons, and I'm still having Townie pings from Alice. That said, considering I'm not sure if I have a solid scumread on anyone anymore, and that it's ~11 hours on the clock, it's increasingly likely I will turn into Jolyne's double vote at some point. Also, I will be around for most of the rest of the Day, so.

"I don't think Enchant flip mafia, but vote anyway."

Ok

[geraintm]

@andres

898 looked like you didn't want to reopen voting for kazyan. what else does "No I really don’t want to open that back up again" in response to "let's kill kazyan" meant to mean?

981 / 128 - you mooching off someone else's read of kazyan - "talk to me about what you see there"

1003 / 130 you vote

that was the progression to the vote.

but you hadn't mentioned kazyan in any of your posts since 755 /87 - you had gone 30 odd posts without mentioning them or intereacting with them. i dislike how you tag along after someone else to join a wagon

it is actualy weird how little intereaction/thought you give to kazyan

I think {Enchant, Ythan, GrandpaMo} is where my vote will land today most likely, unless something changes. I am not getting negative vibes from Kazyan’s last set of posts. @Koba you tell me what you see, but they just seem to be a hesitant player. I’m not finding it Scummy.

@DW, talk to me about Ythan some more.

i had to go back al ong way to find that, and that was the opposite of wanting to vote for them.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Additionally, I skimmed his iso in his 2 newbie games, 1 he is town, the other he is scum, and I feel like he as a person associates "vote-parking" with a scummy behavior from reading his iso here and in the 2 newbies. He opens the game vote parking here, and I feel like the reason he associates it with scummy behavior is because it is what he is inclined to do as scum.

Speaking of your case, I meant to ask this earlier but I forgot. What do you mean by "vote parking"? They did announce that they're gonna park their vote at one point, but they've actually been moving their vote around fairly often, at least in the beginning.

It's the announcement that pings me. I think he is guilty about voting there because he doesn't have the best reasoning so he wants to attach something to the vote. Really what he's wanting to do is not vote himself anymore because he's getting called out for it, but he's nervous about where to place his vote early on before the lines are drawn. That's why he voted himself in the first place I think.

He doesn't have a reason to vote Alice so he just goes with honesty, which will often get townread. His vote doesn't stay long because the tide shifts in a clear direction early on and he's able to move onto the right side of things to stay in the consensus.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

geraintm if you iso andres and me together you'll see what he doesn't want to reopen - you won't see it isoing Andres because he doesn't talk about it (because he didn't want to get into it)

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Andres is reacting this way because I, as town, faked a guilty on him, as town, in a mini normal a month or 2 ago. He was very upset. I would not advise counting this reaction "against" him, for what it's worth

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Although you other points on Andres may have merit. I'm still not going there or dwlee today. Are you willing to vote either AliceK or Kazyan today geraintm? Or you sticking to no lim?

[geraintm]

Although you other points on Andres may have merit. I'm still not going there or dwlee today. Are you willing to vote either AliceK or Kazyan today geraintm? Or you sticking to no lim?

im not on no elimination

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Are you willing to vote AliceK or Kazyan today? I'm assuming your vote is on Andres then which is as good as voting for no elim, but I didn't check where you're at. You normally go no elim D1 I thought

[geraintm]

Are you willing to vote AliceK or Kazyan today? I'm assuming your vote is on Andres then which is as good as voting for no elim, but I didn't check where you're at. You normally go no elim D1 I thought

as no one can be bothered to check where i am voting

the grandpa wagon is dying quickly.
enchant, you are going to go unless things quickly change as no one else has any ideas

Oh yeah that's true that's probably best at this point. I do think GrandpaMo posts that because he's given up hope though
VOTE: Enchant

this vote...dont get it

Lemme start that wagon, then. VOTE: Enchant

and that stinks

I dunno. I feel like being a contrarian isn't the best scum strategy, and Enchant's antics are distracting us from actual scum.

I have been able to correctly town read him when everyone else wanted to eliminate him.

I can't say that I find him townie enough in this game to defend him.

VOTE: Enchant

and that isn't a ringing endorsement either. that feels oppotunistic to say the least.

in factVOTE: dripping goofball

and you are wrong about goign for no elim, my last few games i have been the opposite of that.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Well in your last game with me and this one you've made a big deal of voting for no elim in RVS, and I think said you do it as both alignments in both games

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Even though you end up making votes you start out the day acting like no elim is what you'll be going for so I didnt put much stock in your D1 last time and I haven't been inclined to here either

[Titus]

I'll be giving this game my attention as the deadline is close, but I have a full work day.

[DrippingGoofball]

Can we speed yeet me?

There's only 6 hours left, most players scumread me and I'm VT.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

At least we won't be outing PRs for nothing.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hmm, no joining Kazyan wagon. His early day reads were too chaotic to come from scum. If he can fake that I would be impressed. He is one of few people I would like to not lynch.
This is my suggestion:
VOTE: Dwlee99

I continue to read this player as town.

[Kazyan]

oml we've gotta eliminate someone. Neither Nathan nor geraintm want to vote Alice, so can we VOTE: Dwlee?

[GrandpaMo]

There is def scum between Kazyan, AliceK, and Dwlee

[GrandpaMo]

oml we've gotta eliminate someone. Neither Nathan nor geraintm want to vote Alice, so can we VOTE: Dwlee?

Let's vote AliceK.

They haven't provided anything compared to Dwlee, Kazyan, and Enchant.

If they flip town, we will still be progressing the game and eliminating a spot who has been lurking // not providing much contribution. Remember ratio is 11:2 supposedly.

If they flip scum, cool, we second guessed ourselves and got scum out -- for reasons such as not contributing.

VOTE: AliceK

[GrandpaMo]

I claim for AliceK to claim now.

[Kazyan]

VOTE: AliceK

[DrippingGoofball]

I claim for AliceK to claim now.

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Vote me, scum.

[GrandpaMo]

I claim for AliceK to claim now.

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Vote me, scum.

I will continue to ignore you for your anti town behavior.

[DrippingGoofball]

Kazyan (4)ssbm_Kyouko;

Jolyne

;Andresvmb;Ythan;
AliceK (2)Kazyan;Titus; AliceK
DrippingGoofball (2)geraintm;DrippingGoofball
Enchant

MargotRosa

(1)

Dwlee99

;
Andresvmb (1)

Enchant

;
Dwlee99 (1)

AliceK

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Not Voting(1)Nathann;

The vanity wagons are unacceptable.