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Post Post #3700 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:06 pm

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I really dont want all of the gunners to go off shooting random people, that sounds really bad to me

Also i still think we should fullclaim, i dont think we have from gamma, galron, ss, ceph, pooky, ydra

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Post Post #3701 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 3650, Cephrir wrote:so i think the gunners must have been specifically chosen for specific reasons. i don't know how much wifom scum might have baked in here. if the scum caller is responsible, i'd expect they would not even think of wifom and would play it completely straight targeting townies who suspect townies. if not, idk. if they're playing it straight and pooky is town, they want him to shoot SS. if they're playing it straight and SS is town, it's because his readlist is fucking upside down so it's their best shot at getting obvtown. the purpose of the other picks would be less obvious to me.

but either way, i find it remarkably suspicious that neither kyouko nor i received a gun. i feel like almost any scumteam would choose at least one of us, particularly kyouko imo as she doesn't come off as an overthinker to me, except for one with a certain agenda.

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Post Post #3702 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:06 pm

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im an insurgent
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Post Post #3703 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:06 pm

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In post 3687, Ydrasse wrote:wack how everyone suddenly goes 'yup it's ydrasse'

shoot me tonight and then look at my vt flip tomorrow (:
are you even reading my posts lol
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Post Post #3704 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:06 pm

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Post Post #3705 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:07 pm

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I think i dont understand it, sorry >.>
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Post Post #3706 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:07 pm

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In post 3703, Ydrasse wrote:
In post 3687, Ydrasse wrote:wack how everyone suddenly goes 'yup it's ydrasse'

shoot me tonight and then look at my vt flip tomorrow (:
are you even reading my posts lol
Whoops sorry i read that and somehow failed to process it >.>

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Post Post #3707 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:07 pm

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is there the possibility that it's skitter+galron?
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Post Post #3708 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:08 pm

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also tbh if youre gonna kill me and it's not today im gonna use the one thing i have at my disposal that no one can actually stop so shrug!
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Post Post #3709 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 3673, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m experiencing a serious mental block rn, and I think I’m starting to get out of it but I need help
I’ve recently gotten the feeling my gut reads have been more on track than my attempts at thinking things through but it’s hard to turn my brain off and just listen to those gut pings. Does anyone have something that helps in this regard?
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Post Post #3710 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:08 pm

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From your pov, sure i think
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Post Post #3711 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 3705, skitter30 wrote:I think i dont understand it, sorry >.>
well let's start here: why do you think the people who have guns have guns?

i think it's obvious what kyouko or i would have done with a gun as of eod2, and if galron is town, i think they would have tried to get one of us to shoot him
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Post Post #3712 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:08 pm

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In post 3708, Ydrasse wrote:also tbh if youre gonna kill me and it's not today im gonna use the one thing i have at my disposal that no one can actually stop so shrug!
This is a very, very, very antitown proposal tbh

Also @pooky
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Post Post #3713 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:09 pm

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killing me is antitown so ya know
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Post Post #3714 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:09 pm

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In post 3695, Bee wrote:yeah and look now everyones like "weeeelll"

and kyouko did it first actually

i have been on ss like, almost all of this game

i only went off because we had an /actual cc/

yes, youre right, i decide to kill one partner to go on the other and i was just doing all of that voting d1 for melodrama
here's the thing, I don't think S_S is scum, otherwise I don't think kyouko's theory crafting would have had the effect it did on me.
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Post Post #3715 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:09 pm

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In post 3676, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3636, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 3635, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:5 of us without guns but now we have 2 claimed innos. Tbh I think the clearest path is to kill me, Galron, and skitter
If none of us flip scum we know that either Tetrina or Cephrir are scum. If Cephrir is the scum of those 2 we know the last scum is S_S. If Tetrina is scum, it will be up to yall to figure it out. Doing the math on this, lets have an elimination on one of us 3 (me, Galron skitter) and double taps on the other 2. Leaves us with the 4 gunners, Tetrina, and Cephrir. Assuming the worst case scenario, where all 3 of us were town, scum will not kill Tetrina or Cephrir because it means the other one is scum. So it will be 6 players, scum will nightkill one of the gunners, and we will be in 5p ELO with a 50-50 shot at scum in Cephrir, Tetrina.

If the one we elim is town
, but one of the other 2 is scum, then scum will shoot Cephrir or Pooky in the night because otherwise they will both wake up cleared if there is only 1 scum alive. So we will be in 4v1 with a conftown. This is very good odds I think as scum will be forced to kill conftown and we will have a free mislim before ELO where scum's kill is forced.

If the one we elim is scum, then the gunners can have free reign to shoot who they want. Cephrir and Pooky would be cleared before the Night Actions by the flip, so we would have at least 1 conftown in the morning as long as none of the gunners fuck up and shoot one of them. Presumably scum will shoot one of them.

I actually think eliminating Town amongst the 3 of us and having the gunners doubletap the other 2 to force final 5 is ideal. I know I'm town so if the gunners will agree to this plan I'll self-vote


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I like this plan

Currently my strongest townreads are ssbm + tetrina + gamma, and ceph can only be scum with ss

I think pooky is probably town, and galron too

Which is kinda leaving me with a solve of ss/ceph, or like ss + ydra, or my townread on galron is wrong
I wish this would work but I got mixed up by what Tetrina claimed. I thought she said Pooky did not have a gun, but I was wrong
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Post Post #3716 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 3698, Ydrasse wrote:w/e im shooting pooky tonight if you dont kill me today

reaction was bad even if the gun was received at night / before check

caught for wrong reasons irritation
I do kinda get this feeling, it also feels a bit like how Alter Ego felt at points during FGO 2, especially directly after I flipped
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Post Post #3717 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 3714, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3695, Bee wrote:yeah and look now everyones like "weeeelll"

and kyouko did it first actually

i have been on ss like, almost all of this game

i only went off because we had an /actual cc/

yes, youre right, i decide to kill one partner to go on the other and i was just doing all of that voting d1 for melodrama
here's the thing, I don't think S_S is scum, otherwise I don't think kyouko's theory crafting would have had the effect it did on me.
okay and i'm saying why a world where me/s_s is stupid because it undermines absolutely everything i wouldve worked for on d1 and s_s already commented on how i dont even get cred or w/e anyways from that like, yesterday or something
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Post Post #3718 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 3711, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3705, skitter30 wrote:I think i dont understand it, sorry >.>
well let's start here: why do you think the people who have guns have guns?

i think it's obvious what kyouko or i would have done with a gun as of eod2, and if galron is town, i think they would have tried to get one of us to shoot him
Ahhhhhhhh ok that makes sense
Ok

This is actually enuf to downgrade my read of him

But i will point out also that a lot of the people who have guns are kinda 'free wheeling' and i think scum couod reasonably expect a whole lotta people to die tonight too
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Post Post #3719 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:11 pm

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In post 3713, Ydrasse wrote:killing me is antitown so ya know
Who said anything abt killing you rn, why is everyone so jumpty
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Post Post #3720 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:11 pm

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In post 3719, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3713, Ydrasse wrote:killing me is antitown so ya know
Who said anything abt killing you rn, why is everyone so jumpty
oh i don't know everyone suddenly going "oh i think it's ydrasse"
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Post Post #3721 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:11 pm

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kind of implies an intent to wagon!
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Post Post #3722 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:13 pm

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there's something I only feel okay clarifying if we're sure there's scum in the gunners
atp I feel like cephrir, kyouko, and tetrina are solidly town so if someone can anti-case skitter+galron then I can be sure I'm not fucking something up with the clarification
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Post Post #3723 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 3715, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:wish this would work but I got mixed up by what Tetrina claimed. I thought she said Pooky did not have a gun, but I was wrong
Ugh i need to read through this again but it made sende to me :(
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Post Post #3724 (ISO) » Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:15 pm

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maybe dgb baiting out infinity's claim was a double blessing for scum!skitter or something having an excuse to kill infinity off idk

/shrug

galron was nulltown for me for most of the game and i said that's usually where scum go in reads of mine
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