Micro 1026: 09:12 | Game Over

[innocentvillager]

im also just tilted rn but trying to make sure im not being toxic cuz everyone hates that shit including myself

[innocentvillager]

i think there's a real reason for std suspecting me here that hasn't been mentioned but i kinda want to hear it from him first if im right

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like, are you scumreading me or not.

i don't know. im not very good at finding scumreads in general. if i had to put a lean rn i think ur weakly leaning below null because ur push on me feels shallow and inciting which reminds me of interactions we had in 2207 when i was trying to get explanation out of you.

I don’t remember to the extent of specific interactions so i do not know what you refer to.

[Save The Dragons]

you don't have to that's the problem

you said some joke that i read, was like, i mean i guess i didn't pay much attention to the weed aspect, explained about how i felt because u were one of the people pushing me

now ur accusing me of being "overdefensive" without anything other than "oh he's being defensive and didn't need to respond to that =SCUM" based on some arbitrary metric that u decided was for some reason scum!indicative

this is pretty accurate ngl

[Save The Dragons]

i think there's a real reason for std suspecting me here that hasn't been mentioned but i kinda want to hear it from him first if im right

now i'm curious

[Faker]

so, if that's [IV/Datisi interactions] so important to you, and you're finding it difficult (which i can't really blame you for), instead of asking questions about what you don't understand, you will instead drop the whole thing?

The conversation is esoteric and lacking in clear significance throughout. As an example, here was my breakdown of one of the posts.

and i think u called my georgebailey townread BS when he hadn't posted anythign at all at that point (when it was , obviously)

[1] i deadass do not remember this, sorry

i can't tell you if i genuinely believed the push i was making there, but it's very likely i did. however, i probably believed it because i knew you were scum and every post you made was A Scum Post, so easy to find the issues. tmi.

[2] i mean i cannot tell you if i genuinely would've found your townread of george in 2175 scummy or not bc i obviously never had a chance to experience it from an uninformed pov

[3] but i think in general i would try to determine whether a read based on low content is real or not on a case-to-case basis, because i sometimes have reads on people for the dumbest shit and i don't like having a blanket read on a situation like that

[4] however, the fact that you reminded me of you townreading someone for empty content as scum is making me not townread you for that anymore

[5] i assume scum!you wouldn't purposefully kill my townread on you but what if that's what you want me to think

[1] revolves around the concrete facts of a previous game. I understand there is some theoretical dispute around the described event. I cannot tell what the significance to this game is whether you genuinely believed the push described. I do not even know if your alignment hinges on the truth value of the statement.

[2] is more of the same, but centers more on IV's read of George than yours of IV in this second game. I again cannot make out the significance other than determining how well you know each other. It is unclear to me if the discussion has any obvious relevance to your alignment this game.

[3] is theoretical. It says something about how you approach the game. Perhaps this will be useful later, but there is no reason to think that this theoretical discussion, without any concrete bearing or application ingame thus far, is alignment-bearing.

[4] is a concrete conclusion. It is essentially that a tell is null. Our investment in this discussion is paying off in spades.

[5] appears to be "Would he or wouldn't he?". You seem to think he wouldn't. If you're not sure, I'm definitely not going to be.

Candidly, I have to understand what the important parts of the discussion are in order to be able to ask the right questions. It is very unlikely that this conversation is worth reading to anyone except yourselves. I am the person most invested in it thus far, and I think that. For all the discussion around my disinterest, no other player has mustered similar faith in its usefulness or attempt to digest it beyond Dragon's "this goes deeper" comment.

I did not seek to curb the discussion entirely because it's your dance and your discussion. I can observe the beginning and vaguely follow. I cannot keep track of the way your feet weave in and out of one another's as the dance goes on, the steps more intricate, and the song changes time signatures and tempos. You place the value on it you want, and if you believe it is a worthwhile endeavor it is my job to stay out of your way. If either of you wind up getting something concrete and persuasive, then you can present the conclusion and brief explanation succinctly without my having to do research on par with a graduate degree for it.

[Faker]

I can confidently state that if both my lifespan were infinite, and the game's deadline equally so, I would place the utmost priority on understanding exactly who townread who in that game and what, along with studying and presenting solid foundational conclusions as to its bearing on this game in full, and not simply wait for you to make another mistake as every uninformed minority in history has done. Alas, I must take shortcuts.

[Faker]

I somewhat don't believe fakers motivation yeah

You are voting no one. I should remind you that you have been presented a golden teaching moment around how to effectively scumhunt if you find me worth the time. I can of course press the same point as mafia, but you have presented zero reason that suggests it would not come from town, nor engaged directly with the point itself. This appears to be skepticism for the sake of skepticism, which is nothing novel.

[Faker]

Sorry, I am not giving you your due credit. You presented the reason that I was absent yesterday. I am unfortunately unwilling to provide the weekend's itinerary, so this will remain unresolved until postgame.

[marcistar]

im a bit confused

innocentvillager,

is ur reasons for voting norwegianboy just cuz u felt like it and ur paranoid of him? or am i understanding this wrong?
i was honestly kinda wanting to vote him as well, but its not something i have any reasonings in and im not confident in it at all.

i kind of had townvibes on u, but ur recent posts seem a bit weird imo.
what r u feeling rn..? frustrated?

[unwnd]

I somewhat don't believe fakers motivation yeah

You are voting no one. I should remind you that you have been presented a golden teaching moment around how to effectively scumhunt if you find me worth the time. I can of course press the same point as mafia, but you have presented zero reason that suggests it would not come from town, nor engaged directly with the point itself. This appears to be skepticism for the sake of skepticism, which is nothing novel.

You sound like an ai-learning program fed textbook mafia jargon

[Faker]

Probably because you spent all of your time smoking weed instead of opening a dictionary or playing the game, but we all have our faults.

[unwnd]

You need to treat people like they have nuance

Not an algorithm to sort

[Faker]

You have again been presented a golden teaching opportunity, but I apologize for demanding that you deliver on something. I will leave you to your modern bliss.

[unwnd]

Nobody is impressed by someone with an inferiority complex

[Faker]

If you want to have a topical discussion over the game at hand, as opposed to taking weirdly out of scope personal shots, let me know. I don't see a reason either of us should continue at the moment.

[unwnd]

Then don't point to your own post like a jackass and tote it like a learning opportunity

[Faker]

Then don't point to your own post like a jackass and tote it like a learning opportunity

I'm a true Socratic in the sense that you seemed to think there was a better alternative to the path I took as town. I'm asking you to be my teacher and present one.

[The M&Ms]

I don't think scum!faker would try so hard at the beginning
I don't think scum!marci pussyfoots around voting me
I don't think scum!datisi based on trying to solve IV

VOTE: george

[unwnd]

I think you should do what comes naturally. My problem with you is that you are not being so

My issues with you aren't personal, I'm not going to pretend to know you. If I'm a bit coarse it's all within the game

[Faker]

On a more lighthearted note, maybe that wasn't Republic I read but Don Knuth, always tough to tell and my humanities background is rather lacking. Too much time getting Bs in computer science, probably explains why my sorting algorithms I use in games like these always goes so awry.

If you think I'm lacking in human touch, then fair enough, but there's an object of the game that you presumably share with me.

[The M&Ms]

[The M&Ms]

eh VOTE: NorwegianboyEE this seems like a better place for my vote

[The M&Ms]

Weed is green just like my role pm

True

[Faker]

I cannot help but wonder what the implication for who would be lacking in human nuance and touch is in the even that it turns out that I am in fact all natural, but I suppose this can wait for afterwards.