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Post Post #4600 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:13 pm

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i literally dont care at this point

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Post Post #4601 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:13 pm

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not hammering
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Post Post #4602 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:14 pm

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okay cool i was right yesterday,t hanks kyouko
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Post Post #4603 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:14 pm

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but ceph is who i'm strongly leaning here tho
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Post Post #4604 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:30 pm

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That's a shame then

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Post Post #4605 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:32 pm

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I wouldn't have chosen you to have the deciding vote after you've been suspicious of me literally all game x.x

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Post Post #4606 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:35 pm

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i mean i don't know why gamma died and i've been sus of both of you so that point kinda washes out
and i'm not super happy that i got left holding this bag here

i can go through why i'm leaning you over her but i'm also not sure that either of you actually wants to hear it
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Post Post #4607 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:38 pm

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Gamma probably died because he's been consistently townreading me!

I don't really care what your reasons are yeah, and you probably dont care to hear my response either -.-
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Post Post #4608 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:40 pm

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honestly atp im just like

let me out lol even if you vote me

im not even going to be around for the next ~3-4 days to do anything much so whatever questions you have ill answer but thats about all there is from me
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Post Post #4609 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:45 pm

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his last stated suspeciion was scum in you/ssbm, and he was very resistant to the idea of ydra scum. honestly i dont' know why either of you left me alive but it makes less sense for her to have killed gamma than for you to have

and i would actaully listen to what you ahve to say if you wanted to try to convince me to vote ydra, but if you don't want to go through that process i'm not gonna force you


pedit that was @ceph
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Post Post #4610 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:45 pm

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my best off the top of my head case for myself being town is pretty much an awful argument but here yuo go anyway.

i don't play scum like i played this game. when i see a scumteam doing as bad as this one, i say "looks like i have to town it up super hard and win on my own." i've never in my life defended a doomed partner the way i was going to bat for ss in this game like an idiot.

i also don't pull stupid gambits like my claim would have to be. the sum total of my scum gambiting history is i claimed miller once.

i'll try to come up with something better than self meta, but i don't make these risky plays. im messy because town.
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Post Post #4611 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 4609, skitter30 wrote:and i would actaully listen to what you ahve to say if you wanted to try to convince me to vote ydra, but if you don't want to go through that process i'm not gonna force you
im thinking about making an attempt, even if mostly for my own satisfaction so the whole affair isn't my fault
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Post Post #4612 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:46 pm

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In post 4609, skitter30 wrote:his last stated suspeciion was scum in you/ssbm, and he was very resistant to the idea of ydra scum. honestly i dont' know why either of you left me alive but it makes less sense for her to have killed gamma than for you to have
i guess i wasn't paying attention to that.

i think people tend to return to their roots in limlo though.
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Post Post #4613 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:52 pm

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In post 110, Roden wrote:
In post 83, skitter30 wrote:Oh, *please* explain that
VOTE: Skitter

I was gonna vote Ydrasse since I don't believe in town slips but this was a weirdly sensitive response to a single vote.
"fos buddy, vote townie"

that's the only time he ever mentioned her and he hardly mentioned me at all either

house has nothing

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Post Post #4614 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:55 pm

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why did i switch my vote to enchant? i know ss' scum game isn't good, i'd have preferred a total unknown. (i've never played with enchant before.)
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Post Post #4615 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:04 pm

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In post 1401, Cephrir wrote:sure, we could use some motion

VOTE: roden
this is the 3rd vote on the roden wagon. there are no votes on house slot here. why am i trying to make this wagon happen?

i wonder where ydrasse is at in all this fun!
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reading the thread but talking about something else, and

that wagon gets to 4 and then the enchant wagon kicks off and starts looking serious. let's check in with our pal ydrasse and see how she is attacking one or more of these scum!
In post 1598, Ydrasse wrote:i don't feel like posting but also want to post >_>
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Post Post #4616 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:10 pm

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In post 1676, Tetrina wrote:Both Enchant and Smart are scums :twisted:
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Post Post #4617 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 1724, Ydrasse wrote:s_s replaces into scum slots without fail its s_s
fwiw, i feel like ydra's total lack of effort at like any point makes sense from someone who's on that scumteam. i don't know her especially well tho.

shes been consistently demotivated except when it's time to post some town sounding emotions which from a distance i feel like is her thing, skill wise (i don't mean this to sound insulting sorry)
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Post Post #4618 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:14 pm

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didn't mean to quote that
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Post Post #4619 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:15 pm

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In post 1724, Ydrasse wrote:s_s replaces into scum slots without fail its s_s
In post 1805, Ydrasse wrote:oh huh

VOTE: enchant
ugh, i guess we did similar things
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Post Post #4620 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:15 pm

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ms stop quoting 1724 challenge
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Post Post #4621 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 1806, Ydrasse wrote:e_e

i like the makeup of the enchant wagon more but wanna vote s_s
why tho
In post 1808, Ydrasse wrote:UNVOTE:

they're at 5/5 each

im getting anuket topaz flashbacks
without knowing anything about the referenced game, this seems like an attempt to stall both and...
In post 1812, Ydrasse wrote:im fine with waiting

i kind of want to post/talk but also im playing super animal royale which is objectively, a lot of fun

does anyone wanna talk abt something
In post 1817, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't think I've been very serious this game
In post 1818, Ydrasse wrote:you’ve been SO serious
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Post Post #4622 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:19 pm

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In post 1869, Ydrasse wrote::< i wanna vote enchant
???? you "wanted to vote ss" two seconds ago and there was no reason you couldn't do either thing so what is the purpose of these posts
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Post Post #4623 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:20 pm

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- ceph is the only person to have claimed to have received anything from scum other than the guns; all the other gifts tie to shiki in some way

- he used that to get out of being eod2 wagon, and was later hedge-y if that was his only role/pr/gift

- the whole 'giving the FN to the consensus sr' is such poor judgement that i have a hard time understanding how that comes from town. like yeah it's a moot point because we can't trust it now, but if you had given it to someone who would reliably convey the results, you'd be conftown now. idk how you oversee that, you obviously knew ss was suspected, him reporting the result is meaningless, and the fact that you didn't recognize that baffles me

- everyone else (gamma, ydra) had a *very* emotional reaction to ssbm doing whatever the fuck they were doing, you didn't. you were just very like 'oh well too bad'. i think people without an emotional reaction there are more likely to be scum because holy fuck was that annoying and frustrating. honestly probably my strongest point in ydra's favor is the fact that she is quite clearly pissed

- defended ss all game for spurious reasons (note that ydra was actaully pushing him day2)

- as i said earlier, i think the fact that tetrina died pointed to scum in you/ssbm, because i don't think she was the obvious nk there at all, and i think she only dies if scum is worried she'll get a result on them different than what they claimed in thread. no reason to kill her for her reads or her like game presence, so that's the only reason i can think of that she died

- i still feel like the timing of your pirate game with pooky given the game context and the lack of your providing content at that time was scummy

- your vote on enchant eod1 was p weak, but honestly so was ydra's so i suppose this is a wash
In post 2160, Cephrir wrote:in addition to what ive already posted i feel like generally speaking trying to get ss anyway is kind of a scum action here -- falling back on what we had yesterday. we have new information! use it! im not saying ss can't ever be scum but i can see that as the action of scum confronted with a shrinking lim pool & not sure who is safe to try and add to it
honestly this is just really, really, really bad in retrospect, esp. as you don't seem to have any reason to townread ss here other than the fact that he's a cw to flipped scum. you're like assuming ss is town and then calling others (me) scum for pushing him, when he was actually scum ...

- the one point that is in your favor r.e. ss/enchant is that i think you're supposed to have a good scumgame and i kinda think you'd make yourself look better when voting either, and the vote on enchant was just so meh
In post 2167, Cephrir wrote:this isnt unreasonable i know but at some point i have to take into account superficially scummy behavior over selfmeta or scum can just do whatever they want
also just noting the irony of this

- the whole argument you had with me r.e. whether or not we should flip ss was just bad, esp. in retrospect, esp. sicne most of your points were strawmen and you kept backing down whenever i took apart your argument and when you tried to scumread me for it (~ and onwards)

- also i never really understood your galron scumread, and with how ss hammered i believe his partner was already involved in that wagon. honestly now that i think abt it i don't really understand the reasoning behidn any of your reads, they just kinda appear and you're stubborn about them but i don't know where they come from and tehy never change

- been on every single misflip wagon and staunchly opposed the ss wagon, and was incredibly ambivalent about the enchant wagon

- in retrospect kinda sounds like you deliberately chose to give guns to people who did not want to kill galron in order to create this narrative that galron is sus for nobody who wanted to kill him getting guns
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Post Post #4624 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:20 pm

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In post 1903, skitter30 wrote:
In post 1840, Cephrir wrote:Gamma seemed to have a moderate strength opinion that SS is the easier read of the two. Sure.

VOTE: Enchant

Pedit: a little. I dont know what it is about me particularly that is so aggressively making them not feel any kind of way
Ceph sitting on a roden vote foe quite a long time anf then switching to enchant at the time he did is probably important but idk what it means
i agree that's important :3
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