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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:34 pm

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But Cyrus also flipped red despite me feeling he was flipping green so maybe I’m just ass-backwards on everything except my Cakez read
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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:27 pm

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In post 1574, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t really get why so many people suspect Nero apart from maybe him being low impact based on what I’ve seen, and that can be VERY hit-or-miss as a method of reading him
tbh i kind of felt the same way, til now
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:51 pm

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some notes of interest.

cyrus calls nero anti-team #418
Kyouko says cyrus is easy to eliminate as both town and scum, #539
cyrus makes a note about how, when switching to cakez, he implies he still sr's kyouko, #1228. This is near EOD.
says at #250 nero has no content, at #306 says nero is among the few scumhunting, continues to sr him
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#642 votes rmh, putting both himself and rmh at 3 votes

i have no conclusions to draw from those but
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:56 pm

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considering how long it took for cyrus to sr dragon, I'd *hazard* to say dragon is town too

so my top town reads right now are
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:00 pm

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i also have kind of a red-string-on-a-cork-board theory about kyouko and sircakez biting the dust but *shrug*
i don't think it will be relevant unless two scum are in my poe but since i spent at least 30 minutes looking at the possibility i'm going to mention it here in case it does
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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:00 pm

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oka y now i sleep u.u
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:51 pm

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In post 1574, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t really get why so many people suspect Nero apart from maybe him being low impact based on what I’ve seen
it seems like it might be a bit of herd mentality/FOMO but I'm aware/paranoid that scum could just be pushing me here.
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:09 pm

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In post 2, Cook wrote:Aliens are given a bonus role in their PT.
I mean, I don't think it's impossible that alien gets a rampaging mod and claims 1x vig
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:37 am

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I don’t think “bonus role” means a modifier
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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:25 am

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Isn't Thor near 100% scum at this point? What was the flaw in my reasoning and Marashu's?

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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:29 am

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In post 1569, redtea wrote:wait how is that order exactly the same except for gamma

...is this how cyrus picks his scumreads????? and I crazy, am I doing something wrong?
Just drawing the wrong conclusion - if you put the reads in order it makes sense that the earliest reads will be placed on players that have made fewer posts, because they happened earlier in the game
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:32 am

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In post 1574, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t really get why so many people suspect Nero apart from maybe him being low impact based on what I’ve seen, and that can be VERY hit-or-miss as a method of reading him
Mine's a combination of low impact (burden of proficiency) and just a poe where I'm townreading a good amount of players hard enough that I'm comfortable in not eliminating them.
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:33 am

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VOTE: Robert M Hunter

He's basically pulling a comedy routine at this point. "Isn't Thor near 100% scum at this point?" when it relies on me being scum
exactly
with cyrus and both of us coming up with this convoluted play.

If you look through my posts and see how much I was trying to crumb powerful rolls and ask to be recruited, it is very obvious what my motives are and how I'm the Paranoid Gun Owner.

Get this madlad out of here please.
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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:37 am

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Considering I'm town and impossible to safely kill for scum at night, my existence is incredibly detrimental for scum and they gain so much by getting me voted out. No town should be taking the risk of losing me on the off-chance I'm somehow not what I claim to be.

The number of people expressing they're down with voting me today or close to just astounds me. Those of you who aren't scum need to reread the wincon in your role pm, those of you who are scum... carry on.
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:40 am

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In post 1582, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2, Cook wrote:Aliens are given a bonus role in their PT.
I mean, I don't think it's impossible that alien gets a rampaging mod and claims 1x vig
In post 1583, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t think “bonus role” means a modifier
I read the 3d20 design thread a few times in pregame, Aliens get an additional rolecard generated by an additional mod-rolled 3d20 that "floats" with the alien faction for the first 48(?) hours of the game. Aliens may swap roles with each other and the floating role as many times as they like within that timeframe, at which point their roles are locked in.

Additionally, all third parties are given an alternate Town role to choose between in pre-game. It's possible that someone rolled 3P, and decided to play town instead of picking up the 3P PM. That could lead to something like 9:3:1 balance-wise
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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:48 am

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In post 1564, redtea wrote:
In post 1545, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Because either the 2 kills came from town!RMH or
rampaging factional kill made 3 kills
can someone eli5 why someone's rampaging ability being able to be applied to the factional kill sounds reasonable
It doesn't sound balanced, but it's possible it does work this way. Take a look at the Ninja Wiki Page and see the sample role PMs. There are 2 versions, a modifier that only affects one ability, and one that affects all abilities (including the factional ability). I PMed Cook for clarification just now so hopefully we'll see that updated soon.
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:54 am

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T3 maybe galaxy-brained us
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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:55 am

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Aliens being granted a bonus role in their PT means that they have been given an additional role card which is Alien aligned. Aliens are permitted to swap rolecards between themselves and the center role until the start of the day, at which point selections are locked and the surplus role is discarded.

3Ps being given an additional role means they have been given an additional role card which matches their win condition. 3P roles are permitted to confirm as either of the two roles.

Both changes were made to improve the power of these teams.
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:59 am

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He was calling for multitasking modifier to claim - maybe he actually rolled the second cult die? Cult Multitasking Voyeur, but he claimed to have rolled town Multitasking Voyeur to try to bait the cult leader out? After all, the Cult leader probably would be thinking "My role was Bus Driver with 2 modifiers, I rolled Multitasking at random and Bus Driver was fudged. This is the perfect opportunity to fakeclaim a real town role later if I need"

But T3 would know that really there were 2 cult rolls. He would be the only player that knows this. So he would be on the lookout for anyone softing Voyeur as being the cult leader. Somehow T3 figured out Cakez was scum very early - going to go reread them a bit and see if he spotted a crumb or something.

pedit: Ah thanks for clarifying, I must have remembered the thread wrong
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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:00 am

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okay idk if it will be publicly clarified but Rampaging does not affect factional abilities. Rampaging vig is still technically possible source of the kills but not a reasonable assumption to make with rollclaims
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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:05 am

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T3's reads looking like hot fire
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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:06 am

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In post 106, SirCakez wrote:
Hi i'm SO busy I'm dying
but I want to play the mafias
and there it is. Multitasking crumb.

T3 certainly rolled Cult or some other scum faction + Multitasking Voyeur
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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:07 am

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Lucky I caught that or we'd have the wrong number of fudges in massclaim >_>
but gj, you galaxy brained his ass
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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:22 am

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BAH.
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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Fri Sep 03, 2021 5:22 am

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filler
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