Mini 2228: Isekai uPick - Endgame

[jjh927]

VC1.4

Player	Votes	Voters
Toogeloo	5	Dunnstral, Lady Lambdadelta, Lukewarm, Cabd, WhemeStar
ssbm_Kyouko	1	unwnd
ManateeGal	1	DrippingGoofball
Whemestar	1	ssbm_Kyouko
Lukewarm	1	Kate Bishop
DrippingGoofball	1	ManateeGal
Not Voting	---	Toogeloo, marcistar, GuyInFreezer

This will certainly not be the last time generic isekai trash is randomised.

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.
The day will end in (expired on 2021-09-15 16:00:00), or when an elimination is achieved.

[Kate Bishop]

We were on ssbm giffy I just said that

[ManateeGal]

but that's not part of the sigma male grindset.

[unwnd]

Manatee tell me who you would make your 2nd vote on. You're being used as a tool right now but you still have thoughts

I feel as if I am not hearing them

[WhemeStar]

Wheme I am very disappointed in you this game

You've regressed to a memer when you had such fire in popcorn

I dont think I can really stay caught up with this game and read people

[Lukewarm]

I'm struggling with this manatee claim the more I look at it.

The initial claim is that it kills a random townie if it's not on the Lim wagon.

Then it's clarified that it kills the person it's on if they aren't the Lim wagon.

Then it's further clarified that it's once again a random player if the vote isn't placed at all.

I feel like that is a lot of edits for one, but I'm really struggling with the random aspect of it. Is it random townie, or can scum be in the pool? Does this seem like a role that should have an actual random modifier to it? Does this seem like a role that would be more than 1-shot in a 13 player game?

I think I'm still at L-2, so why hasn't there been any discussion on where to direct this shot considering how hard LLD has been pushing to have me ran through?

I'm surprised at how little discussion has been had on this, and if the role exists it seems like a role very susceptible to scum influence.

I do not like this post :/

I don't think this is even an accurate recounting of the edits to the claim...

She did originally claim double voter, if on wagon gets vig shot, and random shot if off wagon.

And then came back and said she was gonna full claim and did. There was only 1 edit that I see?

"it seems like a role very susceptible to scum influence" Also rubs me the wrong way. How is it more susceptible to scum influence then a vig, when as claimed she has to target it out in the open?

I feel like her claim gets her night killed every time - and is also a death sentence for scum to claim, because if extra people don't die, we kill her AND even if the scum team did have a double kill mechanic (or she is 3p) can never endgame with this claim

[GuyInFreezer]

We were on ssbm giffy I just said that

Yeah I'm aware.
But y'all had ssbm and Toog on similar tier, with Toog lower no?

[Kate Bishop]

Yeah. I just got confused what toog had to do with it all.

[WhemeStar]

ALSO I WAS POO POO ON POPCORN WHAT ARE U ON ABOUT KATE

[Cabd]

{Dunn.......Cabd, GIF}
{Rhiannon, DGB(?)} DGB feels right on this tier but it's not as solid other reads to this point
{Wheme, marci.......manatee} niggles about manatee's role, but eh
{Unwnd} true null
{Luke}
{ssbm, Toog(?)}

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This is synced, but my reads are awfully fluid.

Toog's in flux. I feel like he's doing AI stuff now, maybe? Most of his posts from that LLD sus onward haven't sat right. I have a feeling Nacho would tell me this is town toog, but I never totally nailed down what makes town toog town to Nacho.

Maybe ssbm is where I'll want to vote.

This was practically an eternity ago in mafia age.

[Lukewarm]

I'm surprised at how little discussion has been had on this, and if the role exists it seems like a role very susceptible to scum influence.

Scum influence and not actually belonging to scum?

It feels like you spent most of the post saying Manatee was scummy and then pivoted into this

Dunn is on it this game lol

[Kate Bishop]

ALSO I WAS POO POO ON POPCORN WHAT ARE U ON ABOUT KATE

Yes, I remember you killing notmafia after I told y’all not to.

But you had FIRE. PASSION.

You’re more than a sheep, wheme.

You’re a star.

[Kate Bishop]

(It’s notsci)

Cool.
If that was fery I would've voted you this instant.

It’s still day one sir

I dunno fery dropping Toog just like that would've been hella sketch for me.

I'm not following.

[unwnd]

ALSO I WAS POO POO ON POPCORN WHAT ARE U ON ABOUT KATE

I give you a gun

Who are you shooting whemey

[unwnd]

And no you cannot just say 'im gonna sheep and shoot whoever Cabd/LLD wants!'

[Kate Bishop]

And it better not fucking be not_mafia

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Cabd I don't think I can let you get away without a hard read on Kate today. Tracking your read on that slot and its evolution being natural will be important for reading you and for how to handle Kate.

[Lukewarm]

Then on your reread of the post, you'll notice I talked almost exclusively about the role and the lack of discussion surrounding it's mechanics as we approach end of day.

BTW, I don't know why you have this giant mancrush on me spanning multiple games, but I'm married.

Except half that post was pointing out the changes in the claimed role?

Was that not supposed to indicate that you were not trusting the claim? And would that not imply she was scum?

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So far Toog and dgb are my top scum reads, but I don't think that they make sense as partners because dgb came out and explicitly townread toog not long ago. Might go back and find it

[Kate Bishop]

We were on ssbm giffy I just said that

Yeah I'm aware.
But y'all had ssbm and Toog on similar tier, with Toog lower no?

We haven't posted a consolidated update, but if you're paying attention you should know that I've been doing a lot of meta-ing and thinking on toog.

[unwnd]

I am no Cabd-expert but

Early interactions he said he was just gonna set himself ablaze, but the smoke has cleared. Now what's next?

[Lukewarm]

That's just how games are now Toog

Geriatric style would be nice but mod doesn't agree so I'm gonna keep it rolling

What is geriatric style? I feel I should be the designated trendsetter for this.

Geriatric_Ruleset

I like it!

In other news I'm content townreading Toogeloo, I see nothing that concerns me.

This one

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Man, Unwnd, who is your top scumread right now? Who are your top 2 town reads rn? Whose reads do you trust the most right now?

[Cabd]

Cabd I don't think I can let you get away without a hard read on Kate today. Tracking your read on that slot and its evolution being natural will be important for reading you and for how to handle Kate.

~65-35 Town as of right now. Which is sufficient to day one pass, and re-eval based on how stuff goes, if I'm there to see the dust settle. If not, I left enough cookie crumbs in the trail.

[ManateeGal]

Manatee tell me who you would make your 2nd vote on. You're being used as a tool right now but you still have thoughts

I feel as if I am not hearing them

hmmmm. my brain kinda stops after dgb as my target today. I do know i have at least decent townreads on the other potential targets which is causing a bit of a mental block w/me. ive not been a fan of the kate bishop slot, which i need to re-examine at some point to flesh out (maybe later today?). if the day was to end in a few minutes from now i'd probably place my second vote on dgb.

it's iso is pretty much a contentless jumble of shade that feels overly focused on my role and joking instead of genuine statements. the rest of it's statements have been similarily shallow

[Cabd]

I am no Cabd-expert but

Early interactions he said he was just gonna set himself ablaze, but the smoke has cleared. Now what's next?

Thankfully, you won't ever need to worry about me this game. Not_Mafia has you covered assuming they do town stuff, like, at all.