Newbie 2077 : The Curse of a Blue Diamond!! - Gameover

[kennyk]

kenny's E-1 included floo, salsabil, radical and uranus

uranus's E-1 included LQ, me, regrider/floo, StD

salsa's E-1 included uranus, astronomyfortwo, STD, LQ (

not included in spoilers

)

uranus's second E-1 included regrider, me, radical rat, and STD

italicalized wagons are listed on spoilers

EBWOP

EBWOP
i'll do something with this later but for the most part, STD is right

A few things...

From an objective standpoint, StD can be teamed with Kenny (which is where RR is pushing).
CLS can be teamed with Norweigh. I still don't understand why CLS was on Uranus.
RR can be teamed with Uranus or Norweigh. RR likely not teamed with Kenny.
Astronomy likely not teamed with Norweigh.

IDK you can probably get more out of this than that, but this is where my brain limits.

And Uranus likely not teamed with Kenny or Norwee.

As StD was on every wagon except mine, I can see where that conclusion comes from.
I don't see how the rest of your connections is backed up by the voting patterns on the E-1s though.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It could just be an casually flaking newbtown but like, it seems almost deliberate at this point?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i couldn't imagine forgetting about a mafia game for this long

UNVOTE: NorwegianboyEE
finishing the ISO i started on D1 and drawing more conclusions from that

[Uranus]

I'm not really sure on what our main suspect is atm. It's mainly cls and std for me but... yeah not much else to add.

also, yeah I do wanna solve who is mafia or not but rn everyone is throwing everyone with little agreement on the actual vote.

[ArcAngel9]

Vote Count 2-2

Save The Dragons

:

astronomyfortwo

: ,

kennyk

: Radical Rat

Uranus

: LicketyQuickety,, NorwegianboyEE,

cowsloveSushirolls

: kennyk, Uranus

NorwegianboyEE

:, Save The Dragons

Radical Rat

:

LicketyQuickety

:

Not Voting

(8):, astronomyfortwo , cowsloveSushirolls

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to eliminate.

Deadline: September, 7th, 2021

Countdown: (expired on 2021-09-07 13:30:00)

Mod Notes:

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[ArcAngel9]

Astornomyfortwo has been prodded

[Radical Rat]

Welp, it's time to start deciding on an actual elimination this time.

My list, in order of preference:

kennyk
cowsloveSushirolls
astronomyfortwo
Save The Dragons

Everyone else I'm reasonably sure is Town at this point, and will not vote for them.

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i'm away but when I'm back im going over and finishing the salsa iso I left unfinished on d1

[kennyk]

Welp, it's time to start deciding on an actual elimination this time.

My list, in order of preference:

kennyk
cowsloveSushirolls
astronomyfortwo
Save The Dragons

Everyone else I'm reasonably sure is Town at this point, and will not vote for them.

While of course not agreeing with the top position of your list (who would have guessed?), I like the general direction of this post. So if everyone names those persons he is willing to vote off we might get to a decision today.

I for one am willing to vote

cowsloveSushirolls
astronomyfortwo

(in that order)

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: astronomyfortwo

[cowsloveSushirolls]

Welp, it's time to start deciding on an actual elimination this time.
-snip- -CLSR
I for one am willing to vote

cowsloveSushirolls
astronomyfortwo

(in that order)

you may have mentioned this already, but do you have ideas on who has partner equity with me yet?

[cowsloveSushirolls]

ouch i cant format on mobile. responding to kenny's elim list here
i might also develop my read on RR. my only exposure to them was when they replaced in a recent newbie game and got quickhammered for voting early in mylo
that RR and RR here have similar levels of performativeness and my gut feeling is that it's not particularly easy to replicate as scum but I'll try to support this with actual games

[Uranus]

I am willing to vote off cows and std and possibly astro from that post rad made.

[cowsloveSushirolls]

i couldn't imagine forgetting about a mafia game for this long

UNVOTE: NorwegianboyEE
finishing the ISO i started on D1 and drawing more conclusions from that

lol @ saying this twice CLSR

I am willing to vote off cows and std and possibly astro from that post rad made.

what post?

[Uranus]

above on this page

[Radical Rat]

ouch i cant format on mobile. responding to kenny's elim list here
i might also develop my read on RR. my only exposure to them was when they replaced in a recent newbie game and got quickhammered for voting early in mylo
that RR and RR here have similar levels of performativeness and my gut feeling is that it's not particularly easy to replicate as scum but I'll try to support this with actual games

Quickhammered for catching scum in my first post after joining, I might clarify.
Not really relevant to this situation, I'm just pretty proud of that game, in spite of losing.

But yeah, meta on me is probably not going to be terribly helpful, because this is my first full game in over a year.

[Radical Rat]

Welp, it's time to start deciding on an actual elimination this time.
-snip- -CLSR
I for one am willing to vote

cowsloveSushirolls
astronomyfortwo

(in that order)

you may have mentioned this already, but do you have ideas on who has partner equity with me yet?

I do not. None of your interactions have really stood out to me as partnery.

[LicketyQuickety]

content still coming by the time I got to sleep. Got up super late because of a neighbor waking me up. Then I went to my parents house and hung out with some friends. Back now. Will get to working ASAP. Left off at p24 last night. Will go through the rest of the thread tonight and give my analysis.

[LicketyQuickety]

Done collecting data.

What I can say right off the bat is that Norwee and CLS have some associations and not just a couple. That's my best bet for a team at this point. I will say, however, that this type of association read is a bit experimental on my end and I don't have a lot of experience using it. Usually I just look at non-associatives and narrow down the team that way. But recently in a game a pattern hit me as I was doing my non-associatives for that game and I realized there could be potential for some associative reads as well. Hence, the read is based somewhat on the same format as non-associatives but the content/context is different. Basically, I used to just look at posts and see who ISN'T teamed with who. But after doing that for quite a few games I realized a pattern that is conductive to association reads and it made sense. So this is my first game trying it out.

Will analyze the data and give results, but that's what most stuck out to me.

[cowsloveSushirolls]

ouch i cant format on mobile. responding to kenny's elim list here
i might also develop my read on RR. my only exposure to them was when they replaced in a recent newbie game and got quickhammered for voting early in mylo
that RR and RR here have similar levels of performativeness and my gut feeling is that it's not particularly easy to replicate as scum but I'll try to support this with actual games

Quickhammered for catching scum in my first post after joining, I might clarify.
Not really relevant to this situation, I'm just pretty proud of that game, in spite of losing.

But yeah, meta on me is probably not going to be terribly helpful, because this is my first full game in over a year.

i'm proud of you too, RR
didn't actually know about this being your first full game tho, welcome back

you may have mentioned this already, but do you have ideas on who has partner equity with me yet?

I do not. None of your interactions have really stood out to me as partnery.

thanks for your input, now i gotta ask kenny
@kenny
also, back home, so it is
ISO time

[LicketyQuickety]

Here's a list of how impactful each player has been according to postcount.

Kenny

StD
Norwee

astonomy
CLS

Uranus
RR

There is a correlation between high impact and Town and low impact and Scum, but it's not a coefficient.

[Radical Rat]

Here's a list of how impactful each player has been according to postcount.

Kenny

StD
Norwee

astonomy
CLS

Uranus
RR

There is a correlation between high impact and Town and low impact and Scum, but it's not a coefficient.

I don't understand your ranking here. You say according to postcount, which isn't really a great metric for judging impact in the first place, and yet kenny has not posted the most, nor have I posted the least.

[LicketyQuickety]

Here's a list of how impactful each player has been according to postcount.

Kenny

StD, Norwee

astonomy, CLS

Uranus, RR

There is a correlation between high impact and Town and low impact and Scum, but it's not a coefficient.

I don't understand your ranking here. You say according to postcount, which isn't really a great metric for judging impact in the first place, and yet kenny has not posted the most, nor have I posted the least.

Miscalculation on my part.

It's actually ranked by percentage of impact per # of post. So Kenny has the highest. But more accurately, it is percentage of (non-)associatives compared to post count.

This should be the more accurate list.

Kenny

RR, StD, Norwee

astonomy, Uranus

CLS

I'll have one more post for this data which is very limited because the game is still in early stages, but it should give some idea of teamed/non-teamed between people. Some players just don't have much data yet.

[LicketyQuickety]

Positive numbers mean that this is the percentage that players are non-associated. These are Green. Negative numbers mean that this is the percentage that the players are associated. These numbers are Red. Any names left off means there is no data for these players.

StD:

Norwee 45.67%

,

RR 40%

Kenny:

CLS 75%

,

Norwee 58.33%

,

RR 60%

Uranus:

CLS -12.5%

,

Norwee 8.33%

CLS:

Uranus -100%

,

Norwee -87.5%

,

RR 20%

Norwee:

StD 50%

,

Kenny 21.88%

,

CLS -75%

,

RR 20%

RR:

StD 50%

,

Kenny 18.75%

,

CLS 12.5%

,

Norwee 8.33%

[Radical Rat]

So, if I'm reading this correctly, you're asserting a 100% chance that if cows is scum, Uranus is too?