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[Infinity 324]

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

it's ok i've never ever read skitter wrong

[the worst]

I'm gonna take my own life in my hands and boldly posit that Infinity is town.

where is the feeling of risk coming from

i like to live dangerously

[the worst]

more eloquently, something about having confident early townreads in this setup just feels inherently more dangerous than usual

[MegAzumarill]

I agree, scum can play for quick and easy townreads and get themselves out if town isn't careful.

[skitter30]

that's fine!

this ok-ness feels like town!skitt for some reason

i actually thought u were gonna scumread me more for that

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

Yeah skitter is a little scary. Something about them feels off. Reading their posts I can't pinpoint it but they are giving off weird vibes

well if u can figure it out and wanna talk abt it, lmk!

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

it's ok i've never ever read skitter wrong

>.>

[the worst]

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

probably about 62% / 38%

[MegAzumarill]

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

probably about 62% / 38%

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[skitter30]

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

probably about 62% / 38%

hmmmm ok

i don't think anybody should be townreading me yet tbh

~

also i think meg is p obviously town

[Infinity 324]

i can see that a little but why

[skitter30]

zealousness for their plan + general tone + calling me weird / not-townie + generally just good timing wrt the questions they're asking and their posts

[Infinity 324]

why is calling you not-towny towny?

[skitter30]

feels like a genuine read

[Infinity 324]

ok i have a light townread there anyway

[the worst]

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

probably about 62% / 38%

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i went to type 60/40 then changed my mind

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

probably about 62% / 38%

hmmmm ok

i don't think anybody should be townreading me yet tbh

~

also i think meg is p obviously town

intellectually i agree!

i do not have a read on meg yet.

[MegAzumarill]

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

probably about 62% / 38%

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i went to type 60/40 then changed my mind

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

terrifies you cuz it's me or just generically cuz it's a townread in this setup?

probably about 62% / 38%

hmmmm ok

i don't think anybody should be townreading me yet tbh

~

also i think meg is p obviously town

intellectually i agree!

i do not have a read on meg yet.

No I mean what do the numbers mean? Your feel on skitter being town? The split of reasons why you are worried about trusting skitter? Its a little ambiguous.

I'm gonna sleep so don't expect to hear from me for a while.

[Faker]

Hello, everyone. It's been a long day. I'm extremely tired, and don't think my game commentary will be up to par. I will do my best, though, and beg forgiveness in the morning if I think I've gone down the wrong path.

I've had many, many thoughts on how to play this game: I've considered declaring that I will not trust or accept a trust at all, I've considered declaring the same but until 4 way. I haven't really arrived at a final answer — it's going to hinge largely on the other players — but the one guarantee is that I will not be exiting early. I will not accept any proposals prior to Day 3, and will adamantly resist any attempts to compel me to accept.

This is partially out of pride, but partially out because I cannot describe how ecstatic I am to begin. I have not yet had a completed game onsite, but after so long away the idea of forum mafia has left me feeling in a way that can only be described as

à bout de souffle

[Faker]

I concur with the criticisms of the following, especially as described by Infinity.

We start at 80% town, unless we mistrust d1 this is only going to get worse and less town will have to be tricked by scum for a wrong discussion.

We don't need to take the whole do, just reach a decision about the rest of the game.

However, my instinct is that the naivete of this plan is likely to be town, rather than an attempt to poison the well. This is as doomed to fail from the scum perspective as the town one.

[Faker]

early townpings on intutile

i retract this

We start at 80% town, unless we mistrust d1 this is only going to get worse and less town will have to be tricked by scum for a wrong discussion.

We don't need to take the whole do, just reach a decision about the rest of the game.

mm, this just feels like THE PLAN AS MAFIA to me

but that may just be because last iteration i had a very similar thought process during pregame

this post is *really* feeling weird to me and somewhat scummy
i don't know if meg's approach to the game is *right*, but i do like how they're thinking about the setup
and i dislike that inutile is just vaguely shading this whole thought process

Can you describe what gave you these townpings to begin with, and why inutile's primary identity changed it? I don't know if you meant it this way, but "retraction" is a word that almost implies a flaw with the initial process, or something critical overlooked, rather than just new information.

I disagree vehemently with scumreading the shade from inutile. You (Skitter) and I seem to concur that Meg's thinking about the setup is town. I don't think Meg's presentation of the plan is either a large threat to scum or that scum benefit from immediately discrediting the player.

[Faker]

Reading along through the post numbers in the 60s I am really, really not thrilled with the explanation of this thinking from skitter.

inutile recognizing that other players do not think like it does is not a big stretch of the imagination. My initial reaction to its disclosure it thought of doing similar as mafia was "Wild, that's such a weird and doomed approach"

I should probably be more limited in my defense of another player, but this is a horrible read imo

[Faker]

in other news i do like thor's entrance

I absolutely hated it because it's blandly touching a tonal base and peacing. Town players do this all the time but unless Thor doesn't know how to post whatsoever as scum this doesn't seem indicative of a damn thing.

I would be voting both of you if this were a traditional game.

[Faker]

I caught up and probably should have waited to read in full; half of that was either adequately questioned by other players or followed up on whether satisfactorily or not. I think it's obvious that I both disagree with everything skitter has typed this game, and would probably put her as a scumlean though playstyle differences are likely.

I'd call Meg a decent townread and inutile a townlean. A sizable part of me wants to add Infinity to the townreads, but concurring with my analysis isn't the silver bullet that should put her there.

[Faker]

Let me be a bit more direct with skitter.

It appears you have some experience with shiki/inutile and are drawing at least part of your read from meta.

What suggests to you that: A) inutile actively hedges that shade as scum rather than just goes for it if they want to B) inutile chooses to go after Meg in that instance to begin with?

[skitter30]

@faker: without knowing who inutile was, i liked how she was questioning meg's plan and trying to understand it
upon learning who she was, most of the townpings from that were negated because i think she would have done that as either alignment

i also had not yet read 21 at the time of my posting 22, so when infinity said intuile == shiki, i went back and read inutile's posts with that and mind and also saw 21, and realized i didn't like it, to the point where i wanted to take back the initial townpings i had given

inutile recognizing that other players do not think like it does is not a big stretch of the imagination. My initial reaction to its disclosure it thought of doing similar as mafia was "Wild, that's such a weird and doomed approach"

i mean the way i read the post was that she was calling meg scum for approaching the game similarly to how she did

in other news i do like thor's entrance

I absolutely hated it because it's blandly touching a tonal base and peacing. Town players do this all the time but unless Thor doesn't know how to post whatsoever as scum this doesn't seem indicative of a damn thing.

I would be voting both of you if this were a traditional game.

ok. like i said it isn't a very strong read or anything, but for p2 it was enough to give me some ping in some direction or the other, and i feel like sharing such pings at that stage is a good thing because it creates content and gets the game moving along

i can see why you don't think it's ai, and it's not a read i would base a trust on

Let me be a bit more direct with skitter.

It appears you have some experience with shiki/inutile and are drawing at least part of your read from meta.

What suggests to you that: A) inutile actively hedges that shade as scum rather than just goes for it if they want to B) inutile chooses to go after Meg in that instance to begin with?

idk this isn't really how i was thinking abt it so it's hard for me to answer the questions you posed here
i saw the post. i read it as inutile disliking meg's plan since that is how she approached the game in *her* scumgame, and calling meg scummy for it. but then later hedging around actually calling meg scummy, so it looked like she just wnated to make meg look bad without fully commiting to it

[skitter30]

ok i'm glad someone else called skitter town first so i can be like "i kinda agree and it terrifies me"

why am i kinda town

[Enchant]

Hi!

You have 2 days before i trust people on random from boredom. Don't worry, what's wrong could happen? Majority is town for now.
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