open 826; trist fall (over)

[MegAzumarill]

can someone just trust me so i can play as confirmed

Bruh

[inutile]

can someone just trust me so i can play as confirmed

Bruh

i'm town it's just so everyone can see worlds if you don't currently think i'm town then just do whatever it is you need to do to sort me and then do so or can see if someone else does

[inutile]

like it's where the game naturally is now because we have to get three pairs right in a row and the slot i am sure of is me so here we are this is the way i know how to do it that is most likely to end in a good result

[MegAzumarill]

I mean I think you are town but you are asking a lot for that confirm.

[inutile]

I mean I think you are town but you are asking a lot for that confirm.

i am asking someone to bet the game on my being town, yes

and if someone needs to run at me or whatever to be sure enough for that it's fine

[MegAzumarill]

I mean would you be confident in trusting a tr you have right now as town?

[inutile]

I mean would you be confident in trusting a tr you have right now as town?

that is plan b

[skitter30]

i think she probably did just want to get her partner's OK to leave (irregardless of if the partner is meg/enchant), which is why she went to 'strategize'.

i town

she'd just instant accept with me as partner same as i would do were it me as mafia, like if you think i am likely or pooky is likely i don't really see what you think was happening in that time

i don't think it changes with who the partner is?

and i'm not confident enuf in you just yet to have you trusted

[inutile]

i don't think it changes with who the partner is?

and i'm not confident enuf in you just yet to have you trusted

it does yes because we'd have discussed that in pregame were i the partner just as i did last time and she'd just instant accept

[MegAzumarill]

Let me rephrase, trust a tr that isn't your top or even second from the top TR. (You are tied at third)

[inutile]

it does yes because we'd have discussed that in pregame were i the partner just as i did last time and she'd just instant accept

there's isn't really something for her to discuss with me about 'do i accept this' ya know and i was aware it was happening as you can tell from the thread and would have said to infinity so the 'reading the game' or whatever the other theory was also doesn't hold for me as partner

[inutile]

Let me rephrase, trust a tr that isn't your top or even second from the top TR. (You are tied at third)

sorry i do not think i have explained well

i am trying to up front say if anyone isn't townreading me, please address that now, do whatever you need to do to be confident i am town, so if i am not your top townread, that's okay, i will be once i am confirmed, and if noone wants to confirm me, or try to sort me here to be able to do so, then we're halfway to a loss because we have to get every single pair right

[inutile]

then we're halfway to a loss because we have to get every single pair right

like our leeway is exactly one player

[skitter30]

ig i just feel like i need to sort you right by the end of the game, but that it doesn't necessarily have to be *right now*
and i'm a little wary of people asking to be trusted, since we have no margin of error anymore

i do think 561 is +town tho

[MegAzumarill]

Having a conf player sitting by to try and monitor trustfalls would be beneficial. This is the best imo to do it with do to it not being obvtown to me but feeling very town nonetheless.

Someone talk me out of it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I agree with thor for where the last scum lies.

Also I'm not sure I follow Pooky's reasoning fully, as assuming enchant/me is t/t, it would still make sense for inf to hammer there especially considering the proposed fall was me/enchant before the hammer. Why would inf interupt that if we were s/t.

Might be missing something though

Can you explain why you agree with Thor that the last scum lies in Pavo/Pooky?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

can someone just trust me so i can play as confirmed

I trust Inutile enough to do this if nobody has any major objections

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean I think you are town but you are asking a lot for that confirm.

how does this make sense if you believe in Pooky/Pavo solve?

[MegAzumarill]

I mean I think you are town but you are asking a lot for that confirm.

how does this make sense if you believe in Pooky/Pavo solve?

Pooky/Pavo/skitter for me

They are asking me to risk the game on the Inf/intu interaction early game being WKing over buddying. I think its more likely but its a gamble to assume it straight up.

[skitter30]

i don't really knwo if i'm ready to like functionally hammertest rn

[Faker]

I am very tired right now but I would appreciate a slowdown. I'm not onboard with this plan.

inutile: You don't need to be in the pairings to solve the game. It's unclear to me why it is a necessity to be cleared now instead of later, or the utility for you specifically over another player except perhaps to make it easier on you. The same goes for most of the other players, for example Meg who is only scumread by Pooky. For a more extreme example, not a single player has outed a scumread on me right now. I don't want to be trusted or cleared, but there'd be clear utility in it: If I'm scum the game is already over, and the assumption of the game is safe.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thanks @pooky for the explanation, i understand it now

i guess i'm kinda wondering if everyone views the tier system as you do (i, as we all know, am not the best with mechanics, and didn't get this until you explained it like that), so in the moment, i'm not sure that's how infinity was viewing it

i think she probably did just want to get her partner's OK to leave (irregardless of if the partner is meg/enchant), which is why she went to 'strategize'.
like i understand your logic, but i'm just not sure it's damning for meg/enchant

I've played this setup twice now and won both times, first as scum and then as town. I have a very good idea of the emotions/movements that a scum player has to go through in order to win the game as well as the emotions/feelings a town player goes through as the game moves.

I don't think Megs emotions feel like someone who is town, I believe Meg is very desperate to leave and that doesn't make sense IMO from a town POV at this stage in the game.

There is a certain level of desire to leave that rings out in Meg's gameplay.

Also it really would be the icing on the cake for Koba's #2 townread to also be scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean I think you are town but you are asking a lot for that confirm.

how does this make sense if you believe in Pooky/Pavo solve?

Pooky/Pavo/skitter for me

They are asking me to risk the game on the Inf/intu interaction early game being WKing over buddying. I think its more likely but its a gamble to assume it straight up.

We can only have 2 players in a solve, its impossible to leave three players behind.

Who are you even talking about and why is it scum indicative?

[Faker]

I am also very disappointed that nobody has interacted with my posts either in favor of inutile town or posing the question of Pavowski scum.

I'm especially horrified that people are willing to hammertest inutile, with as far as I can tell no one really presenting any towncase for them of their own in addition to not engaging with mine.

[skitter30]

I believe Meg is very desperate to leave

ok
can you quote a post or two where you see this happeneing?