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[House]

Will you do something readable before day 4 this game?

Isn't giving reads "readable" enough for you?? I could do the hippy hippy shake for you if you like.

Your vote sucks.

You should come on over to Kerset and make things interesting.

[Nero Cain]

I'm just spitballing here but how 'bout we wagon a guy who is "tone" reading a guy for the umpteenth time and hasn't learned his lesson yet?

So his scumread is prob faked.

Also, he promised a catchup and all he could muster was a continuation of a push on me. Guy is so stuck and won't flail out.

[House]

I'm just spitballing here

NGL, I'm a sucker for A Few Good Men references.

VOTE: GAMME EMMAROD

[Almost50]

Day is young. As long as my vote isn't on a wagon that really counts I'm content. Once I have a reason to join a serious wagon and/or have a real suspect I will move it. For now you should all be happy I am voting to begin with (check my most recent games as either alignment. I hardly vote at all on D1)

[Gamma Emerald]

deep breath in...
deep breath out...

[Kerset]

Kerset, why do you think DGB is town? Why am I scum pushing DGB?

Why would you be pushing DGB? There is no natural reason, just an excuse of claim thing.

[Kerset]

(check my most recent games as either alignment. I hardly vote at all on D1)

That is interesting clue. A50 has this state of mind where he wonders how does his town play look like, what is his AI behavior. He wasn't even really accused.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Kerset is town despite being red

[MathBlade]

Day is young. As long as my vote isn't on a wagon that really counts I'm content. Once I have a reason to join a serious wagon and/or have a real suspect I will move it. For now you should all be happy I am voting to begin with (check my most recent games as either alignment. I hardly vote at all on D1)

VOTE: Almost50

Why would town want a vote on a wagon that “doesn’t count”? And why is the day young? This is structured so weird. It feels like a scum PT post or a premature defense

[Gamma Emerald]

Kerset is town despite being red

I’m kinda feeling this
Also I’m just gonna UNVOTE: because pushing Nero seems to not be working out for me but I s2g if Nero ends up being scum I’m gonna be pretty damn mad at Titus if she’s town because it would be the second time town!Titus defended a scum I was pushing

[Gamma Emerald]

Well, in recent history at least

[MathBlade]

Vote Count 1.06

Gamma Emerald (3)

- Andresvmb, ssbm_Kyouko, Nero Cain

Nero Cain (2)

- DrippingGoofball, Gamma Emerald

Kerset (2)

- Cat Scratch Fever, House

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

- Almost50

Cat Scatch Fever (1)

- Titus

MathBlade (1)

- Dragon of the West

Not voting (3)

: Wake88, Kerset, MathBlade

It takes

7

votes to eliminate.

Mod Notes:

Gamma Emerald is V/LA through the 24th of September. Wake88 has been prodded and has (expired on 2021-09-16 05:11:03) to post before I begin looking for a replacement.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-23 17:06:41)

So then the wagon on Kyo doesn’t count? This will be interesting depending on A50’s alignment.

[Gamma Emerald]

you know what maybe I legitimately was wrong on Nero
It seems that every time I feel comfortable around him these days he ends up being scum, so the fact he squicked me out so hard here is probably a town tell

[Dragon of the West]

So the only slot we're in any major disagreement on is MathBlade, but I'm scum?

Just a D1 scumlean. And my D1 read rate is terrible so I'm not going to say someone isn't scum just because they have similar reads to me

[Gamma Emerald]

dragon you get where I'm coming from on nero, right?

[Gamma Emerald]

So the only slot we're in any major disagreement on is MathBlade, but I'm scum?

Just a D1 scumlean. And my D1 read rate is terrible so I'm not going to say someone isn't scum just because they have similar reads to me

I both do and don't see a problem with your mindset
it's fair to maybe suspect intentional scum mirroring but in cases where that's not suspected it doesn't make sense to SR someone with similar reads because they're probably having a similar perspective while sorting

[Dragon of the West]

Ooh hey it’s an actual reason! Something quantifiable!

VOTE: Unvote

This seems like a weird reason to drop the tunnel

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Kerset is town despite being red

I’m kinda feeling this
Also I’m just gonna UNVOTE: because pushing Nero seems to not be working out for me but I s2g if Nero ends up being scum I’m gonna be pretty damn mad at Titus if she’s town because it would be the second time town!Titus defended a scum I was pushing

you know what maybe I legitimately was wrong on Nero
It seems that every time I feel comfortable around him these days he ends up being scum, so the fact he squicked me out so hard here is probably a town tell

I think it's normal for Math.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Oh those were still quoted after ISOing Gamma. Was going to mention hat kind of wishy-washiness is scum!Gamma I'm pretty sure

[Gamma Emerald]

you should also get why I'm feeling this way kyuoko, you were also in that game

[ssbm_Kyouko]

"Kinda feeling", going to unvote because "weak reason", but "indignant clause"

[Dragon of the West]

dragon you get where I'm coming from on nero, right?

Ehhhhhh kind of. I'm not dismissing your experience with scum!Nero because you probably have more than me, but, if anything, in 3d20 the tone he used that tipped me off was how he was almost...nice/agreeable at times? I haven't experienced, or at least noticed, the sassy vs salty difference you mentioned earlier. BUT, I do wholeheartedly relate to the Nero paranoia. I haven't had a game with him yet where I thought "Oh yeah Nero is totally town and I'm comfortable assuming that"

[ssbm_Kyouko]

you should also get why I'm feeling this way kyuoko, you were also in that game

Which game was it? I remember Titus was town in T3's mini and Osuka's mini, but I dont remember you on either game

[Dragon of the West]

So the only slot we're in any major disagreement on is MathBlade, but I'm scum?

Just a D1 scumlean. And my D1 read rate is terrible so I'm not going to say someone isn't scum just because they have similar reads to me

I both do and don't see a problem with your mindset
it's fair to maybe suspect intentional scum mirroring but in cases where that's not suspected it doesn't make sense to SR someone with similar reads because they're probably having a similar perspective while sorting

I just disagree on thinking someone with similar reads MUST be looking at the game a similar way. Like, there's a few inactive slots I don't have opinions on yet and House disagrees on my biggest scumread. I don't see how that's so similar he must be thinking from my town!perspective

[Gamma Emerald]

it's actually 3d20 that I'm starting from here lol
what dotw said in the postgame of that struck a chord with me, because in ln 235 I was at odds with nero but in ln 234 where nero was scum he was actually on my side when I was getting pushed and that made me think he was town, and in 3d20 I was confused that people were pushing nero, though I probably presented that in a way to make the idea I was partnered with nero more palatable, basically exploiting the tell kyouko has tried to use on me previously where I try to fish out the logic for the push on a scumbuddy to determine whether I think the wagon has enough validity to necessitate a bus