Mini 2237: Scarlet Witch Alternate Reality Mafia - Game Over

[CheekyTeeky]

Best to just assume NM is town.

[MegAzumarill]

Best to just assume NM is town.

I mean you are right but I don't wanna

[CheekyTeeky]

T3/Zyla/Enchant with a side of Roden?

[MegAzumarill]

Setup Spec because I enjoy it:

Have we considered that the game could be 2 groupscum with 2 players each?

Also if it is 3rd party I'd say a cult leader is probably likely. (Why would you have to publically reveal it is multiball if it was an sk?) Either that or something wacky like a condemner or something.

I'm not familiar with the flavor, but would a cult/ second groupscum make sense in that context?

[T3]

T3/Zyla/Enchant with a side of Roden?

nou

[T3]

I'm liking hiraki for town.

[T3]

All of Cheeky's posts sound natural, in a sense.

[T3]

Setup Spec because I enjoy it:

Have we considered that the game could be 2 groupscum with 2 players each?

Also if it is 3rd party I'd say a cult leader is probably likely. (Why would you have to publically reveal it is multiball if it was an sk?) Either that or something wacky like a condemner or something.

I'm not familiar with the flavor, but would a cult/ second groupscum make sense in that context?

@fresh newb straight from tos,
there is almost never a cult here

[MegAzumarill]

Setup Spec because I enjoy it:

Have we considered that the game could be 2 groupscum with 2 players each?

Also if it is 3rd party I'd say a cult leader is probably likely. (Why would you have to publically reveal it is multiball if it was an sk?) Either that or something wacky like a condemner or something.

I'm not familiar with the flavor, but would a cult/ second groupscum make sense in that context?

@fresh newb straight from tos,
there is almost never a cult here

Dont bring up my criminal past.

[Not_Mafia]

Best to just assume NM is town.

I mean you are right but I don't wanna

Unlucky kid, you've got no choice

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like this game is too small for two groups of scum, typically multiball in a game this size is just scum + sk or survivor. If survivor it might actually be okay if they claim upfront and win with the town.

[Hiraki]

im not ruling anything out after looking at the game advertisement tbh. setup is not my strong suit though.

[MegAzumarill]

2/2/9 is balanced especially with flavor claims available
Assuming town prs are numerous/strong enough

[CheekyTeeky]

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[CheekyTeeky]

All of Cheeky's posts sound natural, in a sense.

Townreading me isn't going to get me to change my mind lol

[Roden]

Setup Spec because I enjoy it:

Have we considered that the game could be 2 groupscum with 2 players each?

Also if it is 3rd party I'd say a cult leader is probably likely. (Why would you have to publically reveal it is multiball if it was an sk?) Either that or something wacky like a condemner or something.

I'm not familiar with the flavor, but would a cult/ second groupscum make sense in that context?

Going by flavor, the witch coven could be a scum group, and SWORD's Tylor Hayward and White Vision could be the second. Technically speaking, we don't know if Wanda herself is even aligned with town either, since she's the one possessing the town.

[Roden]

I did point it out, hence the quote.

It's not "pushing in bad faith" when Mastina is literally giving reads on people who haven't even posted yet and then scum reading people on "vibes" during RVS. It's the exact same thing she did as scum last time.

You're also just scum lol. Also if you're claiming you caught me then why are you moving your vote onto Cheeky?

You didnt, you are putting words in my mouth.

Roden, are you an alt or you only have been here since May? How long you've been playing mafia before joining this forum?

That's a secret.

[Roden]

i don't think any of 245 is scum-aligned but i think it's terrible logic overall. zero explanation of a take? really? isn't that why i asked you for

your

take? what would cheeky say to satisfy you? i can go one by one but it's not worth my time

pre-edit:

Because talent has nothing to do with knowledge.

...so you just admitted that you're just lucky? yikes

Im not sure if im getting scum vibes from you or if you are just hating.

1. What the fuck not knowing a rule has anything to do with talent?
2. How the fuck is that relevant?
3. How the fuck does that make me lucky?
4. How is being lucky correlated to being talented lacking some knowledge?

Like… what the actual fuck are you on bud?

Can you fuck off?
Your ego is taking up the thread.

VOTE: T3

No, I'm solving. Im not gonna shut up until I'm dead.

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Listen guys, if Mastina is scum, it will not be because of her early day reads, ive seen her do this as town, third party and scum. It's like Cyrus said, completely NAI for her, so pushing her for that is a bad look.

Mastina hates randing scum because she rands scum a lot, so if she bails out, then we can worry about that slot. She is also a player that gets kill off fast because she is threatening to any opposing faction, she is that good, she gets fear killed a lot, and the way she was getting pushed raised a red flag for me because it looked like an attempt to discredit her reads fast (which is funny because it's obvious they are fake reads and it's intentional) and pile on her.

I also do this, in fact i did it this game. Only i picked three people to push and see where it landed.

This is what i got:

If Roden is new to mafiascum and to mafia in general, he'll get a pass because it looks like he genuinely thought that Mastina's reads were legit and obviously in a world where they are legit, those reads are scummy, so his thought process is legit too.

If Roden is a newbie and is scum, CheekyTeeky could be scum together because his approach to Cheeky looks like distancing, Roden is sussing her a lot but yet, he has not voted her to support that push. This is why he thinks me switching my vote from him to Cheeky is scummy, because he thinks that townies are supposed to stick to a vote in a 10-day day phase game.

T3 could be scum, you cant scum read someone arriving at the same conclusion that you did, about the same player, when that someone concluded it before you. It does not make sense, it's a fake push.

If Roden and T3 are scum together, Mastina is unaligned with them. Scum would not unnecessarily bring attention to their scum buddies like that, nor they would superficially push her for it.

Cyrus feels like a player whose alignment will become obvious with time, so im gonna give him time.

I'm not new and this is a really blatant backpedal.

[Roden]

i dont think guillotina flips red but if there's a vig, i think you know what to do

Which is also thinking i will not flip red and forget about me as a target? Or something else?

i am telling them to shoot you

Even though you say i will not flip red?

i am telling them to shoot you

Even though you say i will not flip red?

yep

i am telling them to shoot you

cuse town want town to shoot town sure i think this is a bad post.

the person who after 5 pages we have to have a discussion about ego from multiple people and has a wagon for super questionable reasons (ie there's no reason for it to really be there but it's pretty obvious why it's there)?

it's anti-town play at the very best and extremely distracting from the focus of the game

Killing me while townreading me is play to lose or you are just scum.

1) not townreading you
2) don't lecture me on rules thanks

You said you dont think i will flip red but you'd recommend shooting me. You also just said the votes on me are questionable (they are), so i dont understand your logic unless you are just calling for a policy kill because you dont like my style.

You don't have to flip red to still not be town.

[CheekyTeeky]

I must confess I have no idea about this flavour... is it a movie or a show?

[Roden]

Not feeling super strongly about anyone except that I think Shrek is town. (his play feels much better and different than our previous scum game together, as well as fairly logical and productive in this game)

Why the unvote instead of moving onto a scumlean? I low key think Roden is 3p since he brought up the possibility of mastina being 3p. Why Galron?

So you believe I'm projecting?

[CheekyTeeky]

Not feeling super strongly about anyone except that I think Shrek is town. (his play feels much better and different than our previous scum game together, as well as fairly logical and productive in this game)

Why the unvote instead of moving onto a scumlean? I low key think Roden is 3p since he brought up the possibility of mastina being 3p. Why Galron?

So you believe I'm projecting?

I don't know what that means. If you mean I think you TMI'd on the setup having a 3p, yes I do believe that's possible.

[Roden]

I must confess I have no idea about this flavour... is it a movie or a show?

It's a MCU show. It went on for nine episodes and had a main antagonist (powerful witch Agatha) and a side antagonist (corrupt SWORD boss Tyler Hayward). Wanda herself wasn't necessarily a hero either since she accidentally possessed the citizens of the town she was supposed to live in and didn't let them go even after she found out what she was doing.

[Roden]

Not feeling super strongly about anyone except that I think Shrek is town. (his play feels much better and different than our previous scum game together, as well as fairly logical and productive in this game)

Why the unvote instead of moving onto a scumlean? I low key think Roden is 3p since he brought up the possibility of mastina being 3p. Why Galron?

So you believe I'm projecting?

I don't know what that means. If you mean I think you TMI'd on the setup having a 3p, yes I do believe that's possible.

Did nobody actually read the description...? I keep saying that this was advertised as multiball in the queue.

[mastina]

Not gonna lie, it only took a day and a half of me not posting here when I was active in the RVS for me to kinda disassociate with the game. So is a bit of a struggle to really lock things down.

i feel like mistina's reads are to bait out scums poor reactions to it tbh, not actually serious

My reads are always serious!
I have methodology for them, which is why I can even separate out players who haven't posted into different alignment tiers, based off of this methodology. It's an actual pseudoscience, one I've developed over my career and it is 100% dead serious.
I may on occasion exaggerate and all those reads are explicitly RVS reads subject to change after the RVS but I'm never outright lying about them. (Well, 95% of the time anyway. Some slots I may put as a policy-townread in spite of not townreading them, due to policy. Which is a lie of omission I guess, but that's legit the entirety of the remaining 5%.)

That said, yes, the goal of it is explicitly to get reactions.

The two are not mutually exclusive tho; it can be for reactions and still be serious.

Mastina knows how I like my hot chocolate. So she's town.

I shouldn't elaborate but I genuinely think this is town.

Thank you Mastina!

You're welcome, although I wish I could benefit from having done what I did with a clear idea of who's town/scum here--for instance, I think this is my third game with you and the third playstyle I've seen from you, when both prior games were scumgames with both having different styles from each other. So I can't tell if you're town yet. Sorry.

(I'll figure it out eventually, give me some time to reassociate, refocus, re-lock-in.)

VOTE: t3 I think t3 is scum here he's already making excuse to scum read people but enchant could also be scum. Hoping for a flash elemation.

I'm not 100% sure but btw I'm

pretty

sure cyrus is town here. I'm not absolutely positive but I think this is his towngame.