Mini 2237: Scarlet Witch Alternate Reality Mafia - Game Over

[Roden]

Who else doesn't know this is multiball? Legitimate question.

[Shrek]

> My reads are always serious!

bruh that is CAP

> I shouldn't elaborate but I genuinely think this is town.

i think you should elaborate actually

[Roden]

Game Name

:

Scarlet Witch Alternate Reality Mafia

Flavor/Mechanics:

A mafia game themed based on Marvel Wandavision tv series!

Your Experience:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=ArcAngel9

Current Modding Commitments:

Newbie 2077

Reviewed By:

GuyInFreezer

Back-Up or Co-Mod:

None

Number of Players:

13

Hydrae:

Limits to 2

Restrictions:

None

Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics? cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game

: Cant say! It is a Multiball

I'm gonna be mad if I'm getting scum read for being the only who to actually read the game description in the queue.

[Shrek]

i wonder if this is multiball or not. if only there were someone to mention it to me

[mastina]

i also really like guillotina and potentially cheeky for town. neutral on enchant and t3 atm

For the record, while I'm struggling to lock down Shrek as town/scum here, I can say that Shrek at least is feeling better to me. No longer looks like scum, and is gun-to-my-head town.

I still feel like my townread on Cheeky holds as good, so given the Cheeky townread + cyrus townread + NM townread still holding + feeling Shrek is north of null, prolly can make another readslist.

Galron*
CheekyTeeky

cyrus62
Not_Mafia

T3
Enchant

Shrek

Guillotina
MegAzumarill

Zyla
Hiraki

Roden

*Relies on me being right about an assumption of mine that I don't want to elaborate on because I genuinely feel it'd be antitown to do so.

This doesn't feel good to me, but is currently:
Strong-town
Town-but-not-absolute
Previously-strong-town-less-sure-now
Lean-town
Null-positive
Null-negative
Scum.

As of bottom of page 4. Still working on it tho.

[Roden]

i wonder if this is multiball or not. if only there were someone to mention it to me

I appreciate the sarcasm but everyone's looking at me weird for hunting for 3P in a 3P game.

[Shrek]

sorry, that was meant to be an endearing look, not a weird one. your hunting just makes me want to leap into your pocket forever and ever

[Roden]

But I'm already in your pocket

[Shrek]

ouroboros pocket? sheeeeeeesh!!!

[mastina]

I... don't really know what *counts* as town as far as characters go

Ditto. I feel like this might be a bit of a mistake to reveal but I'm actually not familiar with the source material as my family does not have access to any platform Wandavision is on. I'm familiar with

my

character as I looked her up before I even got my role PM for ~reasons~ (circa 2-3 days before I got my role PM due to [redacted to not give it away]), but I don't actually know much about the source material. I have watched almost every MCU film and watched Agents of Shield start to finish and got to see the first season of Agent Carter as well as like half of season 2 for that show and I periodically look up things about other MCU things I don't have the knowledge on but I don't know as much about Wandavision as I should. (I only joined the game because I was invited to join the game.)

Also, scum probably have town-sounding fakeclaims anyway.

RE: Zyla: not getting a lock on alignment either way yet.

ego post - how are we at 5 pages?

I will say that Hiraki has a decent chance of being scum here though. (This is an easier post to quote than 111 but the sentiment remains.)

[T3]

i also really like guillotina and potentially cheeky for town. neutral on enchant and t3 atm

For the record, while I'm struggling to lock down Shrek as town/scum here, I can say that Shrek at least is feeling better to me. No longer looks like scum, and is gun-to-my-head town.

I still feel like my townread on Cheeky holds as good, so given the Cheeky townread + cyrus townread + NM townread still holding + feeling Shrek is north of null, prolly can make another readslist.

Galron*
CheekyTeeky

cyrus62
Not_Mafia

T3
Enchant

Shrek

Guillotina
MegAzumarill

Zyla
Hiraki

Roden

*Relies on me being right about an assumption of mine that I don't want to elaborate on because I genuinely feel it'd be antitown to do so.

This doesn't feel good to me, but is currently:
Strong-town
Town-but-not-absolute
Previously-strong-town-less-sure-now
Lean-town
Null-positive
Null-negative
Scum.

As of bottom of page 4. Still working on it tho.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say we should never lim mastina. This post is wildly towny

[mastina]

I feel like scum Galron would ask more questions to appear like he's posting content from looking at his ISO in Radio Buzz [towngame] and Calculasia [scumgame].

Weirdly enough my vibes from T3 is that he's telling the truth about all his reads and that they are mostly good regardless of his alignment but in spite of him having truthful, good reads, I'm not sure he's town.

[T3]

I believe I saw aa9 ask somewhere about 9:2:2 multiballs.

[T3]

All of Cheeky's posts sound natural, in a sense.

Townreading me isn't going to get me to change my mind lol

Why are you scumreading me then?

[Hiraki]

why do you care?

[T3]

I feel like scum Galron would ask more questions to appear like he's posting content from looking at his ISO in Radio Buzz [towngame] and Calculasia [scumgame].

Weirdly enough my vibes from T3 is that he's telling the truth about all his reads and that they are mostly good regardless of his alignment but in spite of him having truthful, good reads, I'm not sure he's town.

My reads are almost always honest as either alignment, albeit scum me has a tendency to TMI.

[T3]

why do you care?

idk

[T3]

I... don't really know what *counts* as town as far as characters go

Ditto. I feel like this might be a bit of a mistake to reveal but I'm actually not familiar with the source material as my family does not have access to any platform Wandavision is on. I'm familiar with

my

character as I looked her up before I even got my role PM for ~reasons~ (circa 2-3 days before I got my role PM due to [redacted to not give it away]), but I don't actually know much about the source material. I have watched almost every MCU film and watched Agents of Shield start to finish and got to see the first season of Agent Carter as well as like half of season 2 for that show and I periodically look up things about other MCU things I don't have the knowledge on but I don't know as much about Wandavision as I should. (I only joined the game because I was invited to join the game.)

Also, scum probably have town-sounding fakeclaims anyway.

RE: Zyla: not getting a lock on alignment either way yet.

ego post - how are we at 5 pages?

I will say that Hiraki has a decent chance of being scum here though. (This is an easier post to quote than 111 but the sentiment remains.)

I simply don't see any universe where mastina received a red pm. (or a purple one or smth)

[T3]

mastina is playing slightly to her scum meta though :/

[T3]

RODEN's reaction to pressure in yakra was getting angry, this game he's pushing through it.

[Roden]

Call it character development

[T3]

hmmmm
yes
the average town citizen, turned evil by dark and mystic forces

[MegAzumarill]

I simply don't see any universe where mastina received a red pm. (or a purple one or smth)

Their role pm had a rainbow color scheme obviously.

[mastina]

It's because he's third party and he knows you're scum.

This is probably scum btw.

Yup

Wait that actually makes so much sense, then.

Galron*
CheekyTeeky

cyrus62
Not_Mafia

T3
Enchant

Shrek

Guillotina
MegAzumarill

Zyla
Hiraki

Roden

*Relies on me being right about an assumption of mine that I don't want to elaborate on because I genuinely feel it'd be antitown to do so.

Galron*, CheekyTeeky, cyrus, and Not_Mafia would remain as town, here, with Shrek having a decent chance of being town as well.

Which would leave 2:2 (presumably) or small chance of 2:3/3:3 (less likely) within:
{T3, Enchant, Guillotina, MegAzumarill, Zyla, Hiraki, Roden}.
7 names is 1-3 too many but by weak vibes I don't feel like Meg's scum here with anyone so that'd be 4-6 scum in the 6 names remaining:
{T3, Enchant, Guillotina, Zyla, Hiraki, Roden}.

We can even work it further down.

Roden:

Guillotina, T3

Guillotina and T3 wouldn't be partnered with Roden.

IF RODEN IS SCUM: that limits Roden-buddies to {Zyla, Hiraki, Enchant}.
IF RODEN IS SCUM: the other team PROBABALY has AT LEAST one of {Guillotina, T3} on it but this is not definitive, with the second likely from the above. (The other scumteam COULD be Zyla+Hiraki with Enchant as Roden's scumbuddy, or Zyla+Enchant with Hiraki as Roden's scumbuddy, but I find these less likely than at least one of Guillotina/T3 being scum.)
IF RODEN IS NOT SCUM: give me time, still working on it.

IF HIRAKI IS SCUM: Hiraki's buddies are limited to {Roden, Zyla, Guillotina, T3} due to Hiraki's Enchant push.
IF HIRAKI IS NOT SCUM: give me time, still working on it.

Given the Roden-Hiraki stuff, I feel like we've got:
1-2 scum of one team in {Roden, Hiraki}
1-2 scum of the other team in {Guillotina, T3}
Enchant can be scum with any of Roden/Guillotina/T3;
Zyla can be scum with anyone right now;
Guillotina/T3 can be scum with any of {each other, Enchant, Hiraki, Zyla}.

But these are just from where I am in the thread right now; I can probably narrow it down even further once caught up.

I feel like the game's actually a lot more makes-sense with this reveal. And is actually easier to solve.

Sure, scum can genuinely scumhunt but I feel like there are slots that are just town and by looking at the slots that aren't just town, we can have a workable poe as to who is likely scum and with who.

[MegAzumarill]

Make sure to give thought of what it means if Roden flips 3p

probably close to the scum results but may be a little different