Mini 2237: Scarlet Witch Alternate Reality Mafia - Game Over

[Roden]

I can also save everyone's time and claim now if you guys really want to waste time pushing me as a mis-elim.

Pre-flip theory crafting is exactly why I suggested this earlier.

[Hiraki]

what if i told you that i wouldn't mind a roden elim?

[Hiraki]

i think it's just weird that you were pairing me with roden tbh - is it just because i said bad things about him but then shifted onto enchant? i don't like either slot, it's just that one is actively lurking versus the other who just isn't saying anything good

[mastina]

VOTE: T3

For the record, this pushes me to:
RODEN IS NOT SCUM WITH: T3, Guillotina
GUILLOTINA IS NOT SCUM WITH: T3, Roden
T3 IS NOT SCUM WITH: Guillotina, Roden

Given this, at least one of them is town no matter what but I can see any of them being scum and I still think 2/3 of them are. (It's possible it's only 1/3 but that requires the scumteams to be {Hiraki + 1} {Enchant +1} with one of the +1s being the 1 scum and the other being Zyla.)

[Roden]

Guillo has no problem hard bussing team mates. You saw this first hand, Mastina.

[mastina]

Who else doesn't know this is multiball? Legitimate question.

I didn't. I didn't read the signup because I signed up due to being invited and I didn't read the OP, I just kinda assumed it was a standard mini theme.

I believe I saw aa9 ask somewhere about 9:2:2 multiballs.

I also vaguely recall that, tho I wouldn't know from where.

[Guillotina]

Guillo has no problem hard bussing team mates. You saw this first hand, Mastina.

He is right, i have no problem doing that.

But Roden is focused on discrediting me as anything now, first third party, now scum.

Desperation at its finest.

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I'm also ok getting yeeted, like i feel that ive been trying the hardest and still getting pushed as scum means i got close and scum want me gone, but please, if you do flip me, DONT IGNORE MY LEGACY JUST BECAUSE YOU HATE ME ON PERSONAL LEVEL.

VOTE: Roden

[MegAzumarill]

I don't think anyone dislikes you on a personal level.
You're being hyper aggressive my guy

[Roden]

Guillo how am I discrediting you if you're literally admitting I'm correct? Lol

[CheekyTeeky]

All of Cheeky's posts sound natural, in a sense.

Townreading me isn't going to get me to change my mind lol

Why are you scumreading me then?

Because you have no fire :/

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like scum Galron would ask more questions to appear like he's posting content from looking at his ISO in Radio Buzz [towngame] and Calculasia [scumgame].

Weirdly enough my vibes from T3 is that he's telling the truth about all his reads and that they are mostly good regardless of his alignment but in spite of him having truthful, good reads, I'm not sure he's town.

My reads are almost always honest as either alignment, albeit scum me has a tendency to TMI.

*coughs*

[Roden]

Btw I'm Todd Davis/Arthur Hart. My flavor is that I play the role of Vision's boss once reality gets altered by Wanda. I can role claim next if necessary, but my power is relatively weak.

[mastina]

what if i told you that i wouldn't mind a roden elim?

Well I'll believe it when I see a very obvious push on Roden that is committed to which you don't back out of--now that it's known that it's multiball and it's known who I have in my POE pool, I can't trust votes/pushes as much as I could prior to these, meaning distancing and even bussing is possible so long as it doesn't actually kill the partner.

However, I'll acknowledge there's a few less-likely scum pairings which aren't absolute but still less likely. I should've noted them at the time since refinding them is a bit harder but from a quick iso skim:
You-Roden is among them (the less likely but still possible teams).

Guillotina-You is one of the more probable ones.
T3-You is also one of the more probable ones.

So at this stage, I'd say:

Roden + Element, OR:
Roden + Zyla, OR:
Roden is town;

IF RODEN IS SCUM, OTHER TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
T3 + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla), OR:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
Guillotina + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla)

IF RODEN IS TOWN, FIRST TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element, OR:
T3 + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra

IF RODEN IS SCUM, SECOND TEAM:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element, OR:
Guillotina + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra

Pretty sure the key players this game whose flips blow the game wide open are {Roden, T3, Guillotina} with a side of Hiraki.

[mastina]

Guillo has no problem hard bussing team mates. You saw this first hand, Mastina.

Sure but that wasn't multiball.
This is.

Pre-multiball-reveal, I don't think scum bussed.
Post-multiball-reveal, they could, which is why future interactions are a lot less reliable than past ones pre-reveal of multiball, so long as they didn't actually end up on a final elimination wagon.

So I have fairly high faith that I'm in the right ballpark here.

[mastina]

At this stage I would unironically be okay with all of the main 3 and maybe Hiraki fullclaiming today.
Being all of {Roden, T3, Guillotina} fullciaming.

I realize that having three slots (maybe 4) fullclaim on D1 is unusual but this is a game with unusual circumstances. The multiball nature of the game + the prominence of those three (with the side of Hiraki) + the players who I feel are town no matter what narrows down things significantly enough that I genuinely feel it's worth it.

[Guillotina]

what if i told you that i wouldn't mind a roden elim?

Well I'll believe it when I see a very obvious push on Roden that is committed to which you don't back out of--now that it's known that it's multiball and it's known who I have in my POE pool, I can't trust votes/pushes as much as I could prior to these, meaning distancing and even bussing is possible so long as it doesn't actually kill the partner.

However, I'll acknowledge there's a few less-likely scum pairings which aren't absolute but still less likely. I should've noted them at the time since refinding them is a bit harder but from a quick iso skim:
You-Roden is among them (the less likely but still possible teams).

Guillotina-You is one of the more probable ones.
T3-You is also one of the more probable ones.

So at this stage, I'd say:

Roden + Element, OR:
Roden + Zyla, OR:
Roden is town;

IF RODEN IS SCUM, OTHER TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
T3 + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla), OR:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element (not possible if it's Roden + Element), OR:
Guillotina + Zyla (not possible if it's Roden + Zyla)

IF RODEN IS TOWN, FIRST TEAM:
T3 + Hiraki, OR:
T3 + Element, OR:
T3 + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra

IF RODEN IS SCUM, SECOND TEAM:
Guillotina + Hiraki, OR:
Guillotina + Element, OR:
Guillotina + Zyra, OR:
Hiraki + Zyra

Pretty sure the key players this game whose flips blow the game wide open are {Roden, T3, Guillotina} with a side of Hiraki.

Wtf? HEY! In what world do you believe that im scum with Rodent?

If you have a case to associate me as scum with all those people, out with it now

[Guillotina]

At this stage I would unironically be okay with all of the main 3 and maybe Hiraki fullclaiming today.
Being all of {Roden, T3, Guillotina} fullciaming.

I realize that having three slots (maybe 4) fullclaim on D1 is unusual but this is a game with unusual circumstances. The multiball nature of the game + the prominence of those three (with the side of Hiraki) + the players who I feel are town no matter what narrows down things significantly enough that I genuinely feel it's worth it.

Ok. Never mind. Mastina might be a wolf.

You will have to kill me first before I roleclaim. In your fucking dreams im gonna submit to your role fishing.

This game is gonna be hard because so far ive scum read 5-7 people and we cant have that many.

[Guillotina]

If Mastina is scum, then ive been wrong about a lot of people.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not following your progression on some of your reads mastina. Like, yes you're amazing, but I'm not as confident that we're at the stage we can PoE like that yet.

You're welcome to vote T3 with me though ^.^

[Guillotina]

Guillo how am I discrediting you if you're literally admitting I'm correct? Lol

You are scum reading me and third party reading me and never ever have you considered to understand why im pushing you. Stop playing dumb Roden, the fact that i hard bus negative utility wolves for cred is not the discredit, it’s you trying to get over at any cost.

[Guillotina]

And before you twist my words like you have been all day, no, im not scum this game.

[Roden]

Btw I'm Todd Davis/Arthur Hart. My flavor is that I play the role of Vision's boss once reality gets altered by Wanda. I can role claim next if necessary, but my power is relatively weak.

I'm a Visitor that fails if I target anyone other than Vision, the flavor being from the plot of the first episode where my character was coming over to Wanda and Vision's home for dinner. Vision knows if I successfully Visit them, and doing so also reveals to me who Wanda is. However, this doesn't inform me of either of their alignments.

[Roden]

Guillo how am I discrediting you if you're literally admitting I'm correct? Lol

You are scum reading me and third party reading me and never ever have you considered to understand why im pushing you. Stop playing dumb Roden, the fact that i hard bus negative utility wolves for cred is not the discredit, it’s you trying to get over at any cost.

I actually have considered why you're pushing me, and I came to the conclusion that it was for non-town reasons.

And before you twist my words like you have been all day, no, im not scum this game.

Where have I twisted your words?

[Roden]

Actually if you genuinely believe that I never considered to understand why you're pushing me, that implies you think I'm town.

[Roden]

Bad town admittedly, but town nonetheless. So is that a slip or are you intentionally pushing a town read?