Mini Normal 2232 -ENDGAME

[Nathann]

Skimming through NK15's ISO, then through a few pages, Enchant was on Ythan for a bit on Day 3, after I voted, but then jumped off when the wagon got to Y-1, and started pushing GrandpaMo instead. Nooot a good look if Ythan is red, i think.

[Nathann]

Spoiler:

I thought it might be a little scummy to ask a probing question over something that clearly doesn't matter, but then I realized that a "peck" at someone hasn't historically come from scum in my games--Lunar Martian in Mini Normal 2187, or T3's initial questions in Not Quite Normal Multiball. And then you gave a reasonable answer, so now I'm not getting any scum vibes from you.

Don't love this on gut. The town read possible pocket attempt at the end particularly but the back and forth at the beginning and multiple meta citations as well.

VOTE: Kazyan

Why the self-vote?

It's an RVS gag? Weird question.

I think it's a stretch to call that a weird question.

Oh....this game is going to be weird from what I've read above.

Will post more later.

This is post 20

VOTE: geraintm

This is a good point. geraintm, can you elaborate on "weird"?

Calling this a good point when there's no context seems "weird" but Gramps is already a top suspect of mine. This can be tabled for later.

I feel potentially conf biased and am going to take a break.

Also, should we consolidate wagons?

On second thought this is actually a weird question.

I like that we have things to talk about already besides the IC, though I'm still kinda in the phase where I only know anything about Jolyne's role and my role. So, I'm going to watch and reread for a while in order to differentiate people in my mind.

This feels to me like not purely fluff but a subtle suggestion that you are uninformed town. And other than that it is fluff which makes it stand out.

I could do Kazyan but I'd rather not do a lurker (Enchant) over him or Gramps d1. I'm judging them on content they posted and that's not likely to change going forward but a lurker will either do something later or be a better target if he's still lurking later imo.

If you're judging them on the content they posted, why do you think it's not gonna change going forward? Your recent posts seem to be going through Kazyan's ISO, and judging by 679, you're still only on 92, which feels like a bit of an early call?

@Dwlee, what changed your mind on me? And on Kazyan, why not.

I mean I'm looking at their content now and tomorrow they'll have more of the same. It's helpful but I think the difference between a lurker as a potential wagon is larger between days 1 and 2 if that makes sense.

If we're going to have to actually hunt scum instead of relying on a cop/tracker/whatever to tell us who the bad guys are, I am worried.

Like is this genuine? I'm not in the headspace to judge this right now I just feel confirmation biased looking at the iso.

Morning friends.

VOTE: Kazyan

Went through Ythan's ISO and searched for Kazyan's name, and pulled out whatever seemed like giving an opinion on things. (Forgive if I missed things, it's late and I'm phoneposting.) It seems to me like most of this is not liking individual posts? With not much evolution as the game progressed.

So uh, Ythan, can you help me out now? I went through your ISO, and sure enough I found you calling out some of Kazyan's posts are Scummy, but a lot of it feels barebones, and definitely not how I'd expect someone to have talked about their main Scumread at this point of the game. So could you elaborate or tldr your read/trajectory on them, or link if I've missed it?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, have you found any more townies?

No but I am watching.

[DrippingGoofball]

Nathann is pretty townie but not as strong as the others I have identified.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 4.3

Not Voting(3)Enchant;DrippingGoofball;Kazyan;

Kazyan (2)Ythan;geraintm;

Ythan

JacksonVirgo

(2)Dwlee99;Nathann;

Nathann (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

Dwlee99 (0)

Enchant

MargotRosa

(0)

geraintm (0)

No Elimination (0)

With 7 alive it is 4 to execute.

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2021-09-16 17:03:00) or when an elimination has been achieved.

Still valid.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Ythan

[Dwlee99]

E-1 claim time

[Enchant]

Imagine believing in PR still.

VOTE: Ythan

[Nathann]

Why do people keep hammering wagons when I'm clearly still sorting them?

Here's a take, Enchant's hammer looks bad regardless of what Ythan flips. Though I also don't have much hope for the game if he is green. Here's hoping.

[Not Known 15]

Vote Count 4.FINAL

Ythan

JacksonVirgo

(4)Dwlee99;Nathann;DrippingGoofball;Enchant;

Kazyan (2)Ythan;geraintm;

Not Voting(1)Kazyan;

Nathann (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

Dwlee99 (0)

Enchant

MargotRosa

(0)

geraintm (0)

No Elimination (0)

With 7 alive it is 4 to execute.

Day 4 ends.

Ythan

has been executed Day 4. They were:

Spoiler:

Mafia Informed Night 1 Strongman.

You are a Mafia Informed Night 1 Strongman.
[REDACTED]
You have the following active ability:
Each Night, if no other member of your faction is performing this action, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will die.

If you attempt to kill someone Night 1 then your kill can only be stopped if your target commutes.

You win if at least one mafia member is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same).

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Night 4 begins and ends in (expired on 2021-09-16 04:20:00).

[Not Known 15]

Day 5 begins.

Vote Count 5.0

Not Voting(6)Kazyan;Dwlee99;Nathann;DrippingGoofball;Enchant;geraintm;

Kazyan (0)

Nathann (0)

DrippingGoofball (0)

Dwlee99 (0)

Enchant

MargotRosa

(0)

geraintm (0)

No Elimination (0)

With 6 alive it is 4 to execute.

Day 5 ends in (expired on 2021-09-23 04:25:00) or when an elimination has been achieved.

[geraintm]

no one died?

[Enchant]

No one died.

[Nathann]

I saw I had an email about a new PM that said "Mini Normal 2232 Day 5", and I thought how Scum has some nerve to kill someone other than me. But no deaths, combined with the Strongman flip, makes me wonder if we have a protective.

Anyway. VOTE: Enchant. Convince me why we shouldn't kill you.

[Enchant]

I have Green Role!

[Enchant]

No really, if you wait long explaination, i don't have it.

[Nathann]

I don't think Ythan's a partner with geraintm, if we needed more reasons to Townread him. The shitpush on him early on didn't feel S/S.

I want to say the same for Kazyan, I believe Ythan was voting him during some parts of Day 1 when it tipped their wagon much closer to execution than necessary, though I'll review that at some point (irl) today to make sure.

The other thing that would be good to look at is whether DGB/Ythan makes any sense - mainly for its jumpiness between the two.

Enchant seems like the most likely partner despite all that, though.

Oh, another thought - Scum was informed of something. If we do have a protective, that might explain why Kazyan, the Softed Power Role kept not dying.

[Nathann]

I want to say the same for Kazyan, I believe Ythan was voting them* during some parts of Day 1 when it tipped their wagon much closer to execution than necessary, though I'll review that at some point (irl) today to make sure.

Bah, sorry.

[Nathann]

No really, if you wait long explaination, i don't have it.

I wanted to actually see some kinda thought process that would show me that you're not a part of the informed minority who knows everyone's alignments and therefoee has to be making everything up? Like seriously, what even are your reads right now?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Enchant
This wins

[Dwlee99]

But no deaths, combined with the Strongman flip, makes me wonder if we have a protective.

Agreed

[Enchant]

I didn't really had any.

Saw Ythan on E-1 and remembered we wanted to kill him long ago, but always redirected on someone else. Hammered.

I consider my life complete and successfull.

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count 3.5

Not Voting(3)geraintm;Ythan;Enchant;

Ythan

JacksonVirgo

(3)Nathann;DrippingGoofball;Dwlee99;

DrippingGoofball (2)Kazyan;GrandpaMo;

GrandpaMo (1)Andresvmb;

Kazyan (0)

Dwlee99 (0)

Enchant

MargotRosa

(0)

Andresvmb (0)

geraintm (0)

No Elimination (0)

Nathann (0)

With 9 alive it is 5 to execute.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-09-08 04:33:00) or when an elimination has been achieved.

VOTE: GrandPa

...

Ok!

Extended quickhammer, anyone?

Which quickhammer exactly are you referring to?

I planning to quickhammer you.

Mind your business.

Thought so. Weird suggestion for you to make as soon as I start catching up when you specifically said you wanted to hear from me.

Thought so. Weird suggestion for you to make as soon as I start catching up when you specifically said you wanted to hear from me.

Perhaps.

Don't mind me, please continue on.

Enchant did the exact same extended quickhammer idea in a game that just ended (white flag #834) on his buddy. That game it actually went through whereas it didn't here, but he voted a counterwagon then proposed quickhammering which caused Nathan to unvote to avoid that.

[Dwlee99]

What i think: If we are not dead, we are needed for mafia for something. Mafia rarely do alcoholic nightkills or wine or something like that, so basically all nks had some ideas how to win.

I can't really see it though. Ythan looks like best pet for me right now.

Can you explain what you meant by ythan being the best pet for you?

[Enchant]

Best target to elim.