Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1225 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 1:58 pm

In post 1224, RealCheeks wrote:Anything raid related is a nonfactor today with Mastinas ability. I think. For what it's worth though I'm not a big fan of the raid dropoffs.

-R

What do you make of them?

RealCheeks · Post Post #1226 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:03 pm

I'd have to go back and look at timing but my thought was that dropping out makes it easier for scum to snag a charge. Even if you're VT on the raid you can't be sure the person you're letting onto the raid is town.

Also I thought new raid members would be added in the order they queued up to join but it's just whoever votes to join after a spot opens.

RealCheeks · Post Post #1227 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:04 pm

I don't want to say it's definitely scum indicative to drop out because I believe town could have the thought that someone else could better use a +1 if their ability is low impact or negative utility. It's not a good move but it's not unthinkable.

RealCheeks · Post Post #1228 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:05 pm

-R

I signed both those posts

-R

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1229 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:05 pm

In post 1226, RealCheeks wrote:I'd have to go back and look at timing but my thought was that dropping out makes it easier for scum to snag a charge. Even if you're VT on the raid you can't be sure the person you're letting onto the raid is town.

Also I thought new raid members would be added in the order they queued up to join but it's just whoever votes to join after a spot opens.

Dont think we've ever had more than 8 queued tho.
Or i misunderstood this post.

Toogeloo · Post Post #1230 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:06 pm

If this raid doesn't matter, it's NAI to drop out or replace join.

Drip outs could be doing it for town points.

Participants should be more vetted going forward.

Bell · Post Post #1231 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:08 pm

Join raid

Mirio · Post Post #1232 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:08 pm

What do you guys mean bum rushing the raid wasn't a good idea, because now we're giving scum tons of PR info? Why didn't anybody warn us!

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1233 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:09 pm

In post 1226, RealCheeks wrote:Even if you're VT on the raid you can't be sure the person you're letting onto the raid is town.

Btw curious about this, then why arent you in the raid IF you're town?

In post 1230, Toogeloo wrote:If this raid doesn't matter, it's NAI to drop out or replace join.

Drip outs could be doing it for town points.

Participants should be more vetted going forward.

I think it's more of a "What if we're letting someone for example a scum 1-Shot strongman in the raid and letting them gain an extra shot"

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1234 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:10 pm

In post 1232, Mirio wrote:What do you guys mean bum rushing the raid wasn't a good idea, because now we're giving scum tons of PR info? Why didn't anybody warn us!

Not really.
As I said i dont have any use for the reward, yet i also bum rushed the raid.

RealCheeks · Post Post #1235 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:11 pm

In post 1230, Toogeloo wrote:If this raid doesn't matter, it's NAI to drop out or replace join.

Drip outs could be doing it for town points.

Participants should be more vetted going forward.

I shouldn't have posted that it didn't matter actually, that's just not true. The reward matters and who wants the reward matters.

But yeah I thought the drop offs were doing so for cred. That doesn't mean it's the only reason though.
-R

Mirio · Post Post #1236 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:12 pm

In post 1234, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1232, Mirio wrote:What do you guys mean bum rushing the raid wasn't a good idea, because now we're giving scum tons of PR info? Why didn't anybody warn us!
Not really.
As I said i dont have any use for the reward, yet i also bum rushed the raid.

My point was that all of this hemming and hawing we are doing at the moment is probably being discussed in depth in the scum PT.

RealCheeks · Post Post #1237 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:12 pm

In post 1229, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1226, RealCheeks wrote:I'd have to go back and look at timing but my thought was that dropping out makes it easier for scum to snag a charge. Even if you're VT on the raid you can't be sure the person you're letting onto the raid is town.

Also I thought new raid members would be added in the order they queued up to join but it's just whoever votes to join after a spot opens.
Dont think we've ever had more than 8 queued tho.
Or i misunderstood this post.

Cheeky /in'ed to join the raid while it was full and we were skipped over in favor of Toog who definitely voted to join after.

-R

RealCheeks · Post Post #1238 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:13 pm

In post 1233, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1226, RealCheeks wrote:Even if you're VT on the raid you can't be sure the person you're letting onto the raid is town.
Btw curious about this, then why arent you in the raid IF you're town?
In post 1230, Toogeloo wrote:If this raid doesn't matter, it's NAI to drop out or replace join.

Drip outs could be doing it for town points.

Participants should be more vetted going forward.
I think it's more of a "What if we're letting someone for example a scum 1-Shot strongman in the raid and letting them gain an extra shot"

We voted to join but didn't know how the voting to join worked, there is no queue.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1239 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:15 pm

In post 1238, RealCheeks wrote:We voted to join but didn't know how the voting to join worked, there is no queue.

Ah i totally forgot about your previous join request.

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #1240 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:17 pm

For more accurate counts, I will add this piece to the rule.

To join the raid, please use vote tag followed by the word "Raid." (VOTE: Raid)To leave the raid, please use unvote tag followed by the word "Raid." (UNVOTE: Raid)

Edit: Previous vote count was fixed to reflect missed raid join/leave votes.

RealCheeks · Post Post #1241 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:18 pm

In post 1031, RealCheeks wrote:anyone know if raid spots are queued in order of nomination or is it first come first serve once a spot is open?
-R

Which is why I asked here and just got back that you don't nominate for raid but I assumed the implication was understood.....it wasn't.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1242 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:19 pm

inb4 a player named "Raid" replaces into the game.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1243 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:20 pm

I guess it's also possible GIF missed your join request.

Mandelbrot · Post Post #1244 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:20 pm

In post 1241, RealCheeks wrote:
In post 1031, RealCheeks wrote:anyone know if raid spots are queued in order of nomination or is it first come first serve once a spot is open?
-R
Which is why I asked here and just got back that you don't nominate for raid but I assumed the implication was understood.....it wasn't.

Why would you assume the game mod would act on implication?

Should be also understand the implication of "x player needs to die today" as a vote?

That could get messy.

Just be explicit so there is no misunderstanding.

RealCheeks · Post Post #1245 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:23 pm

It wasn't directed at the mod, just anyone that had the knowledge or possibly inquired about the raid.

And I'm meaning ONLY that nominate = join raid.

RealCheeks · Post Post #1246 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:24 pm

In post 1243, Sakura Hana wrote:I guess it's also possible GIF missed your join request.

Yeah possible.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1247 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:27 pm

I mean he literally just said that he changed the rules for joining to make them easier to spot

Gonna test this out since the raid is currently full
VOTE: Raid

WhemeStar · Post Post #1248 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:40 pm

In post 1223, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1201, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 474, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 471, Dwlee99 wrote:Gamma !! Town!!

VOTE: SirCakez

I really hope you didn't roll scum again cakez cause I want to actually play a game with you
This is actually... not a bad vote
Sorry this was a long time ago but can you explain why you thought it wasnt a bad vote?
Because i was scumreading Cakez

howd you get that read on him when he only had like 4 posts at the time

Sakura Hana · Post Post #1249 (ISO) » Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:44 pm

In post 1248, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 1223, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1201, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 474, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 471, Dwlee99 wrote:Gamma !! Town!!

VOTE: SirCakez

I really hope you didn't roll scum again cakez cause I want to actually play a game with you
This is actually... not a bad vote
Sorry this was a long time ago but can you explain why you thought it wasnt a bad vote?
Because i was scumreading Cakez
howd you get that read on him when he only had like 4 posts at the time

Because of his post where he voted Mirio.