Mini 2237: Scarlet Witch Alternate Reality Mafia - Game Over

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Shrek

I hardclaim mason.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why is T3 null town?

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And Cyrus?...and the null scums??

This is definitely scumstina.

VOTE: mastina

[CheekyTeeky]

Just vote her outta here, buddies likely above null.

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Oh, I think I get it >.>

VOTE: NM

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VOTE: Not_Mafia

who tf is clodpole

All of you

Shrek already giving off a totally different vibe from last game where he was a slimey scumbutt.

[CheekyTeeky]

Dammit I want to vote mastina again _-_ lol

[CheekyTeeky]

2 mason claims already

*sad not mason noises*

Good one mason buddy

[CheekyTeeky]

So how are you going to believe me at the end of the game when I'm like, I knew it!

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Enchant

[CheekyTeeky]

mastina's post is NAI.

Could you be more specific? Lol

[CheekyTeeky]

...why am I awake reading this.

I'm feeling the Guillo town read, Shrek. I still can't decipher anything Cyrus says. NM locktown, Mastina can be town until I get paranoid around D3 and T3 idk.

You're welcome, sleep time hopefully for real ^.^

[CheekyTeeky]

CheekyTeeky is the last scum. She spent the day so far shading Mastina but townreads me, me, who is catching wolves based on Mastina's RT. Fake.

We got them! Bag them and ship them to the funerary, i expect to be no inated for best town performance in a game this year.

I appreciate the enthusiasm but you're barking up the wrong tree. You'll always be a scummie nominee in my heart though <3

[CheekyTeeky]

I would day vig you right now if had such an ability. Im not setting up, I believe that you scumslipped.

Can you point out the slip, I can't see it in your ISO?

[CheekyTeeky]

This reads to me as someone not willing to compromise on their read on Mastina to avoid heat, ending up getting heat anyway because of the contradicting nature of those statements.

That's not a slip lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

I can see the scum reads on Cyrus, but dude is almost always the miselim, like T3 said let him dig his own grave.

VOTE: Roden

[CheekyTeeky]

I can also save everyone's time and claim now if you guys really want to waste time pushing me as a mis-elim.

No don't do that. You could make this more productive by focusing on others instead of being focusing on yourself. It seems like you're townreading everyone pushing you by assuming they're wasting time instead of pushing ulterior motives.

[CheekyTeeky]

Uh being focused*

[CheekyTeeky]

For the record I do not support the roden wagon right now.
This feels very apart from his scum play that I am used to. (Haven't had any personal experience with town!roden but have played with scum! Roden a few times.)

I only have that one scum game to go off and I'm not seeing anything that different contrary to Shrek.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not town reading everyone pushing me either, by everyone I mean literally everyone

So why assume it's wasting time? If we didn't wagon anyone, we'd have a low info game. That after a few votes you're threatening to claim to dissolve the wagon instead of trying to parse it doesn't sit well.

[CheekyTeeky]

For the record I do not support the roden wagon right now.
This feels very apart from his scum play that I am used to. (Haven't had any personal experience with town!roden but have played with scum! Roden a few times.)

I only have that one scum game to go off and I'm not seeing anything that different contrary to Shrek.

Rephrase because brain =no work

I feel like Shrek's tone is quote different here to last game, unlike Roden who I'm not seeing as much different to the last game you 3 were scum in. I even think you're different here not trying so hard lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

D: your face is meaningless.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh not yours MegA, I'm sure your face is lovely.

[CheekyTeeky]

Guillo reminds me of nom.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's not that you're doing anything specifically similar It's just a tonal thing in comparison to how different your ex-buddies seem to me this game.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't see it but that's an answer I guess.

You don't see how you're not different or how I see MegA and Shrek as different?

Also I'm at 99% confidence on Guillo being town, that ego is not of scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Although I'd this is multiball as in multiple scum factions not just a 3p then I may have to revise the strength of that confidence. Hmm.

[CheekyTeeky]

If* not I'd

[CheekyTeeky]

Link plz

[CheekyTeeky]

Also Guillo definitely has an ego as scum. He power wolfed hard in Yakra playing exactly like this.

viewtopic.php?t=87275&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

Not really tho. Aside from the memeing the play there is more eagle hovering above prey than ego tunneling.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'll agree to disagree about the difference in intent behind the egoism. There's only one player I've misread on the ego tell as scum and he's not here.
VOTE: T3

[CheekyTeeky]

Shrek what's your read on T3?

[CheekyTeeky]

FLESHWAGON is irony about my english knowledge.

That's is actually ironic lmao.

Thoughts about the game so far?

[CheekyTeeky]

Not feeling super strongly about anyone except that I think Shrek is town. (his play feels much better and different than our previous scum game together, as well as fairly logical and productive in this game)

Why the unvote instead of moving onto a scumlean? I low key think Roden is 3p since he brought up the possibility of mastina being 3p. Why Galron?

[CheekyTeeky]

If I'm wrong on Guillo, look twice at mastina with that heavy chainsaw SOD.

[CheekyTeeky]

Best to just assume NM is town.

[CheekyTeeky]

T3/Zyla/Enchant with a side of Roden?

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I feel like this game is too small for two groups of scum, typically multiball in a game this size is just scum + sk or survivor. If survivor it might actually be okay if they claim upfront and win with the town.

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[CheekyTeeky]

All of Cheeky's posts sound natural, in a sense.

Townreading me isn't going to get me to change my mind lol

[CheekyTeeky]

I must confess I have no idea about this flavour... is it a movie or a show?

[CheekyTeeky]

Not feeling super strongly about anyone except that I think Shrek is town. (his play feels much better and different than our previous scum game together, as well as fairly logical and productive in this game)

Why the unvote instead of moving onto a scumlean? I low key think Roden is 3p since he brought up the possibility of mastina being 3p. Why Galron?

So you believe I'm projecting?

I don't know what that means. If you mean I think you TMI'd on the setup having a 3p, yes I do believe that's possible.

[CheekyTeeky]

All of Cheeky's posts sound natural, in a sense.

Townreading me isn't going to get me to change my mind lol

Why are you scumreading me then?

Because you have no fire :/

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like scum Galron would ask more questions to appear like he's posting content from looking at his ISO in Radio Buzz [towngame] and Calculasia [scumgame].

Weirdly enough my vibes from T3 is that he's telling the truth about all his reads and that they are mostly good regardless of his alignment but in spite of him having truthful, good reads, I'm not sure he's town.

My reads are almost always honest as either alignment, albeit scum me has a tendency to TMI.

*coughs*

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm not following your progression on some of your reads mastina. Like, yes you're amazing, but I'm not as confident that we're at the stage we can PoE like that yet.

You're welcome to vote T3 with me though ^.^

[CheekyTeeky]

Btw I'm Todd Davis/Arthur Hart. My flavor is that I play the role of Vision's boss once reality gets altered by Wanda. I can role claim next if necessary, but my power is relatively weak.

I'm a Visitor that fails if I target anyone other than Vision, the flavor being from the plot of the first episode where my character was coming over to Wanda and Vision's home for dinner. Vision knows if I successfully Visit them, and doing so also reveals to me who Wanda is. However, this doesn't inform me of either of their alignments.

Srsly...

[CheekyTeeky]

O_O'

What if you're scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

Assuming you're town the best vote based on your teams would be Hiraki, I'm getting some aggro vibes from them which I think come from town.

The logic checks out but depends both on you being town and on your town reads being accurate. I think it's a good strat after N1 because we'll have a better idea on the set up and will have hopefully had some informative flips.

[CheekyTeeky]

Actually I could compromise on Hiraki.

[CheekyTeeky]

That's not a bad point Roden.

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So either way, makes nominally more sense as a scum role. I can SEE Rodens claim being town, but I think scum is overall more likely.

If scum could explain why Roden was so eager to claim to clear himself. Rolefishing.

[CheekyTeeky]

How is it rolefishing?

It's not really rocket science, if you're scum, you'd know Wanda/Vision were town and likely the most powerful PRs (if they're the main characters) and that kind of a role might encourage them to signal to you.

[CheekyTeeky]

You've called me awkward and now accused me of faking a thought process...yet you think I'm town?

OK so I thought you could confirm both, and yes it is a bad idea for anyone to signal to you or for you to reveal anything. Although if you live long enough to find Vision it might be a good idea to plan that reveal if Vision is a town role based on other flips.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm predicting a town loss at this point, y'all are letting scum control the narrative and trying to mis-elim a plot relevant flavor claim that no one else has CC'd.

Who are the scum controlling the narrative? Your scumreads are t3, guillo and me. None of us are controlling the narrative. This is just scum flailing at this point.

VOTE: Roden

[CheekyTeeky]

I've been saying T3 this whole time and now you want to vote there.

[CheekyTeeky]

Btw I'm Todd Davis/Arthur Hart. My flavor is that I play the role of Vision's boss once reality gets altered by Wanda. I can role claim next if necessary, but my power is relatively weak.

I'm a Visitor that fails if I target anyone other than Vision, the flavor being from the plot of the first episode where my character was coming over to Wanda and Vision's home for dinner. Vision knows if I successfully Visit them, and doing so also reveals to me who Wanda is. However, this doesn't inform me of either of their alignments.

Srsly...

[CheekyTeeky]

Does the day end if you vig?

[CheekyTeeky]

Depends on balance, I've seen both.

[CheekyTeeky]

I would advise to shoot me later in the game. If it doesn't end the day then it may be best to shoot lurking slots like Enchant or Zyla so we don't have to waste lims on people scum won't shoot.

I get full credit if T3 flips scum BTW VOTE: T3

[CheekyTeeky]

I would advise to shoot me later in the game. If it doesn't end the day then it may be best to shoot lurking slots like Enchant or Zyla so we don't have to waste lims on people scum won't shoot.

I get full credit if T3 flips scum BTW VOTE: T3

you are scumreading me because 'i have no fire'
what a dumb case

You just hatin' coz you're caught for the wrong reasons bruv. It's OK, I suck at scum too

[CheekyTeeky]

I would advise to shoot me later in the game. If it doesn't end the day then it may be best to shoot lurking slots like Enchant or Zyla so we don't have to waste lims on people scum won't shoot.

I get full credit if T3 flips scum BTW VOTE: T3

you are scumreading me because 'i have no fire'
what a dumb case

You just hatin' coz you're caught for the wrong reasons bruv. It's OK, I suck at scum too

yeah
no
and guillo acting like an an idiot egotistical 15 year old isn't helping

That was so 10 pages ago, you remind me of MegA still being bitter about Nero at an inappropriately late part of the game.

[CheekyTeeky]

Alright but nero's reasoning was utter bs

It's the same right? T3 still hung up on Guillo is like frozen scum amirite?

[CheekyTeeky]

Scum very unlikely to have dayvig but not impossible for 3p imo.

[CheekyTeeky]

Poor Rosanna lol

[CheekyTeeky]

Im so high, i just wanna see dad again. I was told that you can unlock memories deep in your subconscious if you get high enough.

<3333 drugs are not the answer my brother.

[CheekyTeeky]

T3 is still scum regardless of flip. If I die avenge him in my honour.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Roden

[CheekyTeeky]

Why is Enchant still on NM? Kill them and T3.

[CheekyTeeky]

If you're actually town, self-voting is playing against your win con. It's rich coming from me but don't do that, please.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why guillo? So clearly my reads are way off again otherwise I should have been the NK. Still strongly feeling T3 scum. Shrek is locktown.

If not me, mastina should have been NK imo, not sure what I make of that yet or about there only being one shot.

Hmm.

[CheekyTeeky]

I mean you were also in Guillo's PoE Cyrus and the shot looks like it came from a newb no offense.

[CheekyTeeky]

Mhmm.

VOTE: Cyrus

[CheekyTeeky]

Play my thoughts a little - why does T3 kill Guilo? Or is he part of the other scum team?

This is just not town T3, I don't care to play wifom. Why does anyone kill guillo when dude was probably next up on the chopping block lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm fine with either cyrus/t3 today when we're ready.

[CheekyTeeky]

Unless scum thought Guillo was my mason buddy?

[CheekyTeeky]

Play my thoughts a little - why does T3 kill Guilo? Or is he part of the other scum team?

This is just not town T3, I don't care to play wifom. Why does anyone kill guillo when dude was probably next up on the chopping block lol.

I'm not sold on T3scum anywhere. Can you guide me where I might be lost? I also don't think Guillo was even close to the chopping block.

It would be faster if we just flipped him he feels incredibly passive and the townreads on me felt overdone/tmi. I was slightly worried about a t3/Shrek team but Shrek opening today is towny af.

Guillo vig claim would've been towny if he'd actually done anything with it. I'll agree to disagree.

[CheekyTeeky]

also how was my opening town? plox tell me so i can replicate it again tomorrow to seem townie again

Don't make me paranoid >.>

[CheekyTeeky]

tbh why dont we look at galron? literally zero original thought, just poking at things from the outside from time to time. guillotina kill is also something i could expect from someone who's not invested in the game at all. only reason nobody is looking at him is because mastina has a "HUNCH" she never explained on him

No.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: T3

[CheekyTeeky]

Dammit maybe MegA is scum. If T3 flips red, possibly SvS.

[CheekyTeeky]

You guys are dumb bells.

[CheekyTeeky]

Except T3 he's just scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

I promise my pocket is nice and cosy and totally not a trap.

[CheekyTeeky]

<.<
>.>
^.^

[CheekyTeeky]

Enchant likely town if T3 red imo. Fake associative when T3 feels he's going down.

[CheekyTeeky]

OK maybe I'm a little tunneled.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Zyla

[CheekyTeeky]

So I think with 2 nights of 1 kill we can assume that there's just one scum team?

[CheekyTeeky]

Also sorry T3 I really thought you were scum bruv.

[CheekyTeeky]

Shrek why did you need the claim from MegA?

[CheekyTeeky]

MegA why would anyone rolestop you N1? Can you point out your crumb?

[CheekyTeeky]

It's usually best to get the guilty to claim first otherwise it's easier for scum to contrive a role that might explain the guilty result. Also there's the chance there's another protective, if not you'll get the full role if MegA dies anyway so it's a bit weird.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh fyi there is a roleblocking role in play, I got no result n1.

Just to clarify were you told that your role failed or did you get no result?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok it's hard to tell what that means, maybe you could ask for clarification if it means your role failed. If Galron JK'd mastina N1 then you still should have seen that action and he didn't flip ninja.

I wonder if your crumb was seen if you were roleblocked n1.

[CheekyTeeky]

So looking through your iso MegA I think I saw it and I don't see how anyone would guess you're a PR let alone watcher and RB you. More likely something to do with Mastina's role. I Wanda how galron thought he had an inno N1 unless they were in some kind of a pt after N1. Maybe it is cult? Do cults get a pt?

[CheekyTeeky]

It's possible but I think unlikely given mastina softclaimed. Like the last game we were in where I thought I was RB'd but hit someone aliend.

[CheekyTeeky]

What? Clearly you don't understand how watchers work and then why would there be no kill n2?

[CheekyTeeky]

One not no*

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm going to be really sad if Zyla flips town, MegA.

[CheekyTeeky]

We also need one more vote so NM not hammering makes me wonder.

[CheekyTeeky]

why would there be no kill n2?

Either both teams targeted the same person, one of them targeted Galron's target, or Galron targeted someone who commited the nk

If Zyla red then I think this likely confirms two teams.

[CheekyTeeky]

MegA how sure are you the names in your SHEILD thing are town?

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok. Kinda hating Enchant's last post but I'll take your word for it.

[CheekyTeeky]

Because it looks like distancing from Zyla.

[CheekyTeeky]

Wow.

[CheekyTeeky]

Honestly, I wasn't expecting this game to be quite this fast, most of the games I've played on this site have been a lot slower
So I've had a bit of trouble keeping up with it

That said, from a first readthrough of everything up to this point, I've got a few reads?

Galron and NM are Town
If mastina and cheeky are mason-ish and mason respectively, then knowing their character names might be enough to say if they're town-aligned or not
Shrek is looking town to me

Mega looks town to me because of the difference between this and our game together where they were scum, but it's a single game sample size, so I'm definitely not relying on it
My gut says Cyrus is scum, but it tends to say that, so I'm not putting much faith in it

Not liking Guillotina for town

Since mod is busy I'm going to pretend Zyla has flipped scum. Her list is basically:

{Galron, NM}
{Shrek, mastina, cheeky, Mega}
{}
{Cyrus}

Hiraki/Enchant are the only ones not mentioned. Enchant I'll discount but not sure why there's no read on Hiraki.
I think NM needs to flip, Cyrus either town or not aligned with Zyla.

Preferred lim order is NM > Hiraki > Shrek based on these reads.

[CheekyTeeky]

{mastina, MegA}
{Shrek, Enchant}
{Cyrus, Hiraki}
{NM, Zyla}

[CheekyTeeky]

@zyla who do you think is scum besides cyrus? so far all youve done is pick on him

Top 3 apart from Cyrus would probably be NM, Enchant, and T3

NM is NM, but he seems quieter than usual
Enchant was mostly null, but that last set of posts is just... weird
T3 just seems off to me, mostly gut, but also he claimed VT and yet 691 implies he has inside info on Enchant

also theres this post

Ah OK maybe it's not NM, notice how Hiraki is missing again?

[CheekyTeeky]

I feel like scumcyrus would just latch onto saying 'yes, yes, i am pietro maximoff/ralph bohner' than what i think he did which was double check his role PM to switch the order

I'm not so sure tbh, assuming that scum has a provided fakeclaim - which I understand to be the norm for themed games from what I've read - wouldn't it be said the same way as a regular town role?

Hiraki is only shows up 4 times in iso, this post tmi scum have fake claims.

[CheekyTeeky]

N_M -> Enchant -> Zyla

tunnel mode activated

It was going to be Enchant or N_M to be honest.

Zyla only shows up 5 times in Hiraki iso. Zyla could've been tacked on lim list as soft distancing but clear intent to go NM/Enchant.

I could be over thinking it but I prefer hiraki over NM at this point.

[CheekyTeeky]

Galron.

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I was paranoid about her being a cult leader or something but I think Zyla spewed setup as two teams with fakeclaims. If that's the case then I think we've only had 1 kill on night 1 because of Galron with scum targeting mastina as an outted PR and with Galron protecting her N1. I don't know about N2, but I'll relook at Galrons iso to see if he left any crumbs. Yes it's still possible mastina was scum targeted by other scum but I'm just gonna OC it for now.

[CheekyTeeky]

<.<
>.>
^.^

Anyone needs me, I'll be here.

I think he protected me N2 >.>

[CheekyTeeky]

If not maybe he just protected mastina again N2. There's also the possibility of mastina being blocked from killing but Galron townread her pretty hard and I also think this is her towngame. I'm still confused about MegAs role failing N1 if mastina was only JK'd.

[CheekyTeeky]

Easy mode.

VOTE: N_M

[CheekyTeeky]

Fine with anyone not cleared let's just end this, it's going to take like 2 days just to flip people anyway _-_ I'm still really confused about there only ever being 1 kill each night. Maybe one team can't NK?

[CheekyTeeky]

Stop stalling Enchant, there's no reason you should be holding a claim back if legit.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm pretty pissed off tbh.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah he's still scum with Zyla even if she's dead. Normal thing to do if for all 3 scum to squabble about who is the team not outright claim your teammate.

[CheekyTeeky]

he could literally just as easily have said ‘cheeky and cyrus are two witches’ and it wouldve been fine

Yeah that would have been fine, but that's not what Enchant did.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'd rep out if I hadn't worked so hard for the win. So to prevent me saying things I'll regret, just consider me a stump.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yes but you didn't know who the team was did you?

[CheekyTeeky]

Nevermind I'm trying not to care lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

Sigh.
VOTE: Shrek

[CheekyTeeky]

I keep deleting what I want to post.

[CheekyTeeky]

No you pretty much ensured we have no chance to win when 9/10 scenarios if you had played with good sportsmanship instead of this cowardly game throw, we should have won.

[CheekyTeeky]

Just play the game scum are meant to which is push for the lim that benefits you most, not fucking claim everything once the game opens in a way where we have no way to play it off.

[CheekyTeeky]

Like how the actual fuck is it our fault your partner got limmed?

[CheekyTeeky]

Two town NKs = 2 Witches, 1 SWORD, 1 TOWN.

It's lose for me

Here. Not our fault you were likely to lose.

[CheekyTeeky]

Idk what prevented you both from claiming me as liar and then pushing elim on me.

You prevented that. Whatever like I just remembered why I shouldn't play mafia.

[CheekyTeeky]

Yes.
And? Why i should give my win to you?
You basically did nothing whole game, 90% of NKs for whole game are ours.

Yeah give it to town like the rat you are. You don't know shit.