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DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3500 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:50 am

In post 3369, Titus wrote:We still should be eliminating CSF though.

I don't understand why a backup vig claim is believable. There doesn't seem to be a vig, and if there is a vig, a backup is too much late-game firepower in the hands of town.

Titus · Post Post #3501 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:51 am

In post 3500, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3369, Titus wrote:We still should be eliminating CSF though.
I don't understand why a backup vig claim is believable. There doesn't seem to be a vig, and if there is a vig, a backup is too much late-game firepower in the hands of town.

I agree. You and me alone doesn't flip CSF though.

House · Post Post #3502 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:53 am

In post 3500, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3369, Titus wrote:We still should be eliminating CSF though.
I don't understand why a backup vig claim is believable. There doesn't seem to be a vig, and if there is a vig, a backup is too much late-game firepower in the hands of town.

Not if scum is loaded with PR power.

Vig cuts both ways. CSF could butcher scummy town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3503 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:54 am

In post 3388, Titus wrote:I just think the whole thing is CSF lying to buy a day and blow our resources.

Seconded.

MathBlade · Post Post #3504 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:54 am

In post 3502, House wrote:
In post 3500, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3369, Titus wrote:We still should be eliminating CSF though.
I don't understand why a backup vig claim is believable. There doesn't seem to be a vig, and if there is a vig, a backup is too much late-game firepower in the hands of town.
Not if scum is loaded with PR power.

Vig cuts both ways. CSF could butcher scummy town.

Oh hey I agree with house on something!

Or my vig detector crumbs are wrong and there’s no original vig and CSF is just IC

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3505 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:04 am

In post 3483, Almost50 wrote:TBH, Math is acting way too scummy today with all his faulty logic and his assertion on being "conf!Town" which ONLY HE believes to be the case. This is now reminding me of his play in The Battle For Calculasia. The only question is WHERE did his kill go, as I don't think he would no kill.

He could no kill.

MathBlade · Post Post #3506 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:05 am

In post 3505, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3483, Almost50 wrote:TBH, Math is acting way too scummy today with all his faulty logic and his assertion on being "conf!Town" which ONLY HE believes to be the case. This is now reminding me of his play in The Battle For Calculasia. The only question is WHERE did his kill go, as I don't think he would no kill.
He could no kill.

Already addressed and answered from multiple people I don’t no kill here if scum.

The only way therefore I am scum is with you.

Since you don’t argue you’re scum I am town to you. Period.

House · Post Post #3507 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:06 am

In post 3505, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 3483, Almost50 wrote:TBH, Math is acting way too scummy today with all his faulty logic and his assertion on being "conf!Town" which ONLY HE believes to be the case. This is now reminding me of his play in The Battle For Calculasia. The only question is WHERE did his kill go, as I don't think he would no kill.
He could no kill.

I mean, it's not beyond the pale considering he thinks of himself as playing 7d chess.

Such a mindset would include making unexpected/unpredictable plays to misdirect.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3508 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:06 am

This is part of the reason I think he's town. If Math is scum, I'd put good money on Math being an eligible partner due to his claim dovetailing with a backup vig.

Titus, can you explain the second sentence?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3509 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:10 am

CSF drops a dodgy claim and vanishes.

Why did people unvote that???

Don't get me wrong, Ythan is another excellent choice, I may vote sometime later today.

Titus · Post Post #3510 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:17 am

In post 3508, DrippingGoofball wrote:

This is part of the reason I think he's town. If Math is scum, I'd put good money on Math being an eligible partner due to his claim dovetailing with a backup vig.
Titus, can you explain the second sentence?

Most everyone agrees CSF makes sense as town to prevent the simple jk from having more targets to protect. If Math is not a simple jk, then that rationale goes out the window.

Almost50 · Post Post #3511 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:21 am

In post 3487, MathBlade wrote:You block someone no death they should be the elim unless beyond reproach.
A50 is beyond reproach DGB isnt

THIS is what I'm calling faulty logic (combined with the accusation of House being DGB's partner). Let's hypothetically agree your proposition above is true (it isn't, but I'll take it for the sake of argument). This means House made was BUSSING DGB. He did something that "should have" resulted in DGB's lim. Then you go back and argue he "knew" it wouldn't go through? How would he know that if "the right play" was to lim DGB still? Unless he assumed "all players are bad and won't make the correct play" which would still be a very strange assumption on his part.

Stop skewing everything to support your narrative. House either knew I was VT (last night) or he didn't. He either shot me or he didn't. If he did he knew you saved me before anyone said anything today, so he could have easily claimed having rolecopped YOU. He could've claimed he rolecopped me. He could've claimed he rolecopped DGB and returned Neighbour. He could've claimed having NEIGHBOURIZED DGB. He certainly didn't need to fake a guilty on DGB knowing exactly where the NK went.

Almost50 · Post Post #3512 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:22 am

In post 3488, Titus wrote:If Math is scum, I'd put good money on Math being an eligible partner due to his claim dovetailing with a backup vig

My comprehension is failing me. Math is a partner of himself?

Almost50 · Post Post #3513 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:24 am

In post 3493, House wrote:It would have to be DGB.

Yet MATH is pushing the hardest to lim DGB. They're not partners either.

Almost50 · Post Post #3514 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:27 am

In post 3505, DrippingGoofball wrote:He could no kill.

Not again.

House · Post Post #3515 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:27 am

In post 3513, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3493, House wrote:It would have to be DGB.
Yet MATH is pushing the hardest to lim DGB. They're not partners either.

a) I'm not implying they are
2) not being the driving force of whatever happens today, be knows he can take whatever outside serves his agenda

House · Post Post #3516 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:28 am

In post 3515, House wrote:
In post 3513, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3493, House wrote:It would have to be DGB.
Yet MATH is pushing the hardest to lim DGB. They're not partners either.
a) I'm not implying they are
2) not being the driving force of whatever happens today, he knows he can take whatever posture serves his agenda

Fix't

MathBlade · Post Post #3517 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:02 am

In post 3511, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3487, MathBlade wrote:You block someone no death they should be the elim unless beyond reproach.
A50 is beyond reproach DGB isnt
THIS is what I'm calling faulty logic (combined with the accusation of House being DGB's partner). Let's hypothetically agree your proposition above is true (it isn't, but I'll take it for the sake of argument). This means House made was BUSSING DGB. He did something that "should have" resulted in DGB's lim. Then you go back and argue he "knew" it wouldn't go through? How would he know that if "the right play" was to lim DGB still? Unless he assumed "all players are bad and won't make the correct play" which would still be a very strange assumption on his part.

Stop skewing everything to support your narrative. House either knew I was VT (last night) or he didn't. He either shot me or he didn't. If he did he knew you saved me before anyone said anything today, so he could have easily claimed having rolecopped YOU. He could've claimed he rolecopped me. He could've claimed he rolecopped DGB and returned Neighbour. He could've claimed having NEIGHBOURIZED DGB. He certainly didn't need to fake a guilty on DGB knowing exactly where the NK went.

Distancing DGB, yes.

He could have claimed a lot of things. But he needed something that held to invests. That means he has to visit DGB (I suspect DGB already being neighborized hence I want the TA to check house). I think DGB neighborized house then claimed a block for cover. House never intended to elim DGB he was always going to townread whoever I blocked. He claimed the RB first so he didn’t have to block a buddy later.

So if I am right House can’t neighborize anyone else and I don’t think he is a rolecop so House can’t check CSF then therefore he has to rebel against the plan.

He has to paint me as ridiculous. He has no other options.

MathBlade · Post Post #3518 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:04 am

In post 3510, Titus wrote:
In post 3508, DrippingGoofball wrote:

This is part of the reason I think he's town. If Math is scum, I'd put good money on Math being an eligible partner due to his claim dovetailing with a backup vig.
Titus, can you explain the second sentence?
Most everyone agrees CSF makes sense as town to prevent the simple jk from having more targets to protect. If Math is not a simple jk, then that rationale goes out the window.

If I am not a simple JK I don’t crumb simple JK at open without knowing it would be safe (see vig enabler). You’d have to argue if you want to assume I am not that I was aware of the entire setup at the start of the game. If I am aware of a setup at the start of the game then no kill doesn’t happen.

This idea is preposterous Titus. You townread me supposedly, stop shading me if you’re town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3519 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:11 am

I'm town, so much brain energy being wasted on finding partners i don't have.

VOTE: Ythan

MathBlade · Post Post #3520 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:58 am

In post 3472, Dwlee99 wrote:
Vote Count 2.14
Ythan (5)
- Almost50, House, Titus, Kerset,DBG

DrippingGoofball (2)
- Cat Scratch Fever, MathBlade

Kerset (1)
- Andresvmb

House (1)
- Dragon of the West

MathBlade (1)
- ssbm_Kyouko

Not voting (2)
: Ythan, Nero Cain

It takes
7
votes to eliminate.

Mod Notes:
Dragon of the West is VLA through the 5th of October.

Deadline
: (expired on 2021-10-03 23:06:00)

My entire PoE on one wagon (edited to reflect VCA far as I can tell) this will go swimmingly well. /s

Ythan is probably town for that alone

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #3521 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:18 pm

In post 3520, MathBlade wrote:My entire PoE on one wagon (edited to reflect VCA far as I can tell) this will go swimmingly well. /s

And you're voting with CatScratch!scum ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Nero Cain · Post Post #3522 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:27 pm

I also never claimed vt. a50 said that I was and if he's claiming that he has a result on me then he's lying both about my role and him being a vt.

Nero Cain · Post Post #3523 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:28 pm

I'm not a vig though so part of me thinks that CSF claimed backup vig b/c her/her team thought I was a vig

MathBlade · Post Post #3524 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:53 pm

In post 3523, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not a vig though so part of me thinks that CSF claimed backup vig b/c her/her team thought I was a vig

Pretty sure there’s a vig. Hopefully will see results tonight *crosses fingers*