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[LicketyQuickety]

quick you are exhibiting a logical fallacy assuming that we are wrong simply because we are loud and in agreement.

It doesnt make sense and is a reason made up to support a wanted theory.

You *want* us to be wrong/scum.

And thats an important distinction to make vs what youre claiming.

You're making a logical fallacy thinking that my reason for thinking you are wrong is because you are loud. Correlation is not causation.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm certainly not arrogant, but i do know how important it is to show confidence so that people will put their vote onto a scumbutt.

[cool cookie]

I’ve already said that i’m voting Kyouko until they post.
I think their shitty reaction to pressure from Koba and subsequent flaking from the game was extremely scum indicative. If they return and make town posts i’ll change my mind, but if nothing has happened to change my scumread of the slot i don’t see why it should.

What about my reaction to pressure is shitty?

Your immediate OMGUS on Koba when they called you out was really scummy, and i don't think you genuinely believe your own arguments about why Koba is mafia.

Correction : i was only publicly scumreading kyouko once she went into discred mode against me.
I was holing the read bc she knows shes done for due to my ability against her meta.
She's continued to post in a way that is her scum meta. Its all shallow nonsense disguised by clever wording.

interesting that NorwegianboyEE says you were publicly scumreading kyouko first then. one is right, one is wrong. if you are right, why would the other player make that mistake? a convenient/lazy argument or just easy to sell? but for you there's no incentive to make that correction there as mafia.

it's an interesting game for me already

[DkKoba]

hello

quick you are exhibiting a logical fallacy assuming that we are wrong simply because we are loud and in agreement.

It doesnt make sense and is a reason made up to support a wanted theory.

You *want* us to be wrong/scum.

And thats an important distinction to make vs what youre claiming.

You're making a logical fallacy thinking that my reason for thinking you are wrong is because you are loud. Correlation is not causation.

Ok but you still havent shown how we are wrong. Being in agreement and beint confident are shit reasons to say we are wrong

[NorwegianboyEE]

interesting that NorwegianboyEE says you were publicly scumreading kyouko first then. one is right, one is wrong. if you are right, why would the other player make that mistake? a convenient/lazy argument or just easy to sell? but for you there's no incentive to make that correction there as mafia.

I didn't look back to confirm the exact timeline, i just remembered that i hated SSB's vibes from those pages and how they were interacting with Koba.

[Almost50]

hello

SCUM CLAIM! Everybody knows only Scum would greet fellow players upon replacement.

[Titus]

This game has a really bad case of group think.

Plan to catch up this afternoon.

Tell me what the groupthink consensus is.

That the loud voices are right about everything.

What is it they're supposedly right about? Why do you disagree?

[cool cookie]

im not sure how many votes they have, but I'd like to vote for Loftwing. i feel deep in my heart that loftwing is not playing for the good team here becaseu very performative style, lots of posts with little content early on, but just something not good with the tone which is hard to explain.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Quick disagrees on the block of Dwlee/Koba/Norwee being all town, and the fact that they all confidently agree each other are town. But i'm not sure exactly what Quick's stance on each of those slots is.

[Almost50]

I'm certainly not arrogant

I though you must be by definition. All Norwegians believe they are "top of the world"

[NorwegianboyEE]

im not sure how many votes they have, but I'd like to vote for Loftwing. i feel deep in my heart that loftwing is not playing for the good team here becaseu very performative style, lots of posts with little content early on, but just something not good with the tone which is hard to explain.

If you think Loftwing is scum, do you think that makes SSB's allignment clearer? Given that Loftwing has been attacking the slots that are pushing SSB.

[DkKoba]

im not sure how many votes they have, but I'd like to vote for Loftwing. i feel deep in my heart that loftwing is not playing for the good team here becaseu very performative style, lots of posts with little content early on, but just something not good with the tone which is hard to explain.

Changing too jarringly?

[Loftwing]

I don't think that this comes from scum!kyouko.

I’m not impressed.

Why's that? Has your opinion changed due to [does a quick search for pronoun] her recently posting?

[Almost50]

im not sure how many votes they have, but I'd like to vote for Loftwing.

War of the alts

[cool cookie]

interesting that NorwegianboyEE says you were publicly scumreading kyouko first then. one is right, one is wrong. if you are right, why would the other player make that mistake? a convenient/lazy argument or just easy to sell? but for you there's no incentive to make that correction there as mafia.

I didn't look back to confirm the exact timeline, i just remembered that i hated SSB's vibes from those pages and how they were interacting with Koba.

i guess it looked like it was integral to your "OMGUS" argument for them being mafia, so maybe its a surprise you would get it wrong. anyone can make mistakes but more common for mafia who are only pretending to find the mafia

[NorwegianboyEE]

im not sure how many votes they have, but I'd like to vote for Loftwing. i feel deep in my heart that loftwing is not playing for the good team here becaseu very performative style, lots of posts with little content early on, but just something not good with the tone which is hard to explain.

Changing too jarringly?

That's actually one of the few things that's been still bothering me too, but i could never really put my finger on what is was until you said that.

[Loftwing]

im not sure how many votes they have, but I'd like to vote for Loftwing. i feel deep in my heart that loftwing is not playing for the good team here becaseu very performative style, lots of posts with little content early on, but just something not good with the tone which is hard to explain.

Don't worry cool-kie, I'm just bad

DO you have any other thoughts about me and/or other players? I'd be very much interested in them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

interesting that NorwegianboyEE says you were publicly scumreading kyouko first then. one is right, one is wrong. if you are right, why would the other player make that mistake? a convenient/lazy argument or just easy to sell? but for you there's no incentive to make that correction there as mafia.

I didn't look back to confirm the exact timeline, i just remembered that i hated SSB's vibes from those pages and how they were interacting with Koba.

i guess it looked like it was integral to your "OMGUS" argument for them being mafia, so maybe its a surprise you would get it wrong. anyone can make mistakes but more common for mafia who are only pretending to find the mafia

My thoughts are always messy and i base my reads heavily on gut feelings i get from posts, and detecting bad or good faith of the posters in question.
It really doesn't matter to me exactly the circumstances of their interactions, i just know it gave me real bad vibes and i heavily townread Koba.

[Loftwing]

interesting that NorwegianboyEE says you were publicly scumreading kyouko first then. one is right, one is wrong. if you are right, why would the other player make that mistake? a convenient/lazy argument or just easy to sell? but for you there's no incentive to make that correction there as mafia.

I didn't look back to confirm the exact timeline, i just remembered that i hated SSB's vibes from those pages and how they were interacting with Koba.

i guess it looked like it was integral to your "OMGUS" argument for them being mafia, so maybe its a surprise you would get it wrong. anyone can make mistakes but more common for mafia who are only pretending to find the mafia

Squint

Hm. I'm not going to say that you're wrong, but I am going to say that I disagree that it's more common for mafia than town to make mistakes.

[cool cookie]

im not sure how many votes they have, but I'd like to vote for Loftwing. i feel deep in my heart that loftwing is not playing for the good team here becaseu very performative style, lots of posts with little content early on, but just something not good with the tone which is hard to explain.

If you think Loftwing is scum, do you think that makes SSB's allignment clearer? Given that Loftwing has been attacking the slots that are pushing SSB.

yes i think loftwings position there is strange. attacked for defending the slot, so responds by arguing they are a nullread which could be a way of trying to not look like they are buddying up - which would be tough for the evil team. although could also be loftwing trying to distance from a town elimination. not the only player potentially in that camp i can see.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE COUNT 1.6

With 16 players alive it takes 9 to eliminate

Dwlee99 (4): Rannygazoo, Wake88, LicketyQuickety, Loftwing,
ssbm_Kyouko (4): Almost50, NorwegianBoyEE, Dwlee99, DkKoba,
Loftwing (3): Titus, Hakai, MargotRosa,
Almost50 (1): GrandpaMo,
LicketyQuickety (1): Nero Cain,
DkKoba (1): ssbm_Kyouko,
NorwegianBoyEE (1): Andresvmb,
Nero Cain (0):
Hakai (0):
Wake88 (0):
Titus (0):
GrandpaMo (0):
Andresvmb (0):
MargotRosa (0):
Kop (0):
Rannygazoo (0):

Not voting (1): Kop,

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-02 17:00:00)

Kop is being replaced
V/LA: ssbm_Kyouko & GrandpaMo & Rannygazoo party till Monday
Wake88 till Tuesday

This game needs a bit more wagon consolidation. Also a lot of the slots that are voting alone need to move their vote to a bigger wagon.

[cool cookie]

interesting that NorwegianboyEE says you were publicly scumreading kyouko first then. one is right, one is wrong. if you are right, why would the other player make that mistake? a convenient/lazy argument or just easy to sell? but for you there's no incentive to make that correction there as mafia.

I didn't look back to confirm the exact timeline, i just remembered that i hated SSB's vibes from those pages and how they were interacting with Koba.

i guess it looked like it was integral to your "OMGUS" argument for them being mafia, so maybe its a surprise you would get it wrong. anyone can make mistakes but more common for mafia who are only pretending to find the mafia

My thoughts are always messy and i base my reads heavily on gut feelings i get from posts, and detecting bad or good faith of the posters in question.
It really doesn't matter to me exactly the circumstances of their interactions, i just know it gave me real bad vibes and i heavily townread Koba.

OK thanks can you summarise the townread on koba? useful for everyone to understand the reasons, especially because you have used other games experience

and loftwing i will share more thoughts i later

[cool cookie]

VOTE: loftwing

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm hesitant to lay bare my cards on reading Dkkoba as they can use it against me if i turn out to be correct about my method of reading them.

[cool cookie]

why mention it in the first place then? perhaps koba will be on guard now anyway if you're correct