Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

GuyInFreezer · Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:58 pm

VC 2.02

SirCakez (7):

Romance, Sakura Hana, Dwlee99, Mandelbrot, tictac, Qrow and Raven, Save The Dragons

Titus (1):

Toogeloo

WhemeStar (1):

RealCheeks

Tomorrow Corporation (1):

Elsa Jay

Not Voting:

Tomorrow Corporation, Head One and Head Two, Titus, Bell, mastina, ArcAngel9, WhemeStar, SirCakez, Mystic Bears

With

19

remaining,

10

votes to eliminate

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-08 20:39:17)

Raid

Raid Queue - Ifrit

Success bonus for raid completion:

Gains strongwilled/strongarm for one night

Queue:

Dwlee99
Mandelbrot
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
SirCakez
Sakura Hana
Romance

Backup

tictac
Tomorrow Corporation
Toogeloo
Mystic Bears

Realm Danger Level: 0

ArcAngel9 is in V/LA until Monday

Mandelbrot · Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:58 pm

In post 2393, Save The Dragons wrote:sakura hana might be town

Duh.

- House

Qrow and Raven · Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:01 pm

In post 2374, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2364, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2360, Dwlee99 wrote:Like at the time the theory was I'm either bussing arc or trying to counterwagon mom. We know mom is town so I couldn't have been trying to counterwagon her (and at the time I argued that that world made no sense anyway) which leaves the world where I'm bussing arc.
Or you could be pushing one town to save another to set up false interaction reads
The fact is that your argument at the time was bad and manipulative.

-Qrow
Or I could just be trying to actually kill scum?

I still don’t understand why you’re so convinced she’s scum? How is she different here than in that Koba game? Explain it to me.

~R

Qrow and Raven · Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:02 pm

In post 2381, Dwlee99 wrote:No cakez claim now

+1

ISO · Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:04 pm

your mom is obvious

Qrow and Raven · Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:04 pm

In post 2171, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 1947, Head One and Head Two wrote:
In post 1590, Toogeloo wrote:Did anyone ever answer this, or am I blind?

In post 1502, Toogeloo wrote:Does mom have a lurkscum meta? What's with the votes?
Mom has a lurkscum meta
Lies.

VOTE: Titus

Fishing for even three names more than likely alerts scum to who has been caught. Why you bringing up these terrible ideas?

ngl, I’m kinda thinking Toog is town rn for a number of reasons.

-Qrow

Qrow and Raven · Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:05 pm

In post 2390, Mystic Bears wrote:Oh shit so many pages. fuck. ok well here's my plan for today: i need to work on my SAT tips doc right now. Then I'm gonna have orchestra rehearsal for three hours. Then I'm going to read up and then I'm going to go to bed because I finished all my homework today.

Im not sure what strong willed/strong whatever the other one was even means but VOTE: Raid for now.

Don't end day before i get back otherwise i will have no motivation to catch up please don't.

Also I have top secret info that my hydra buddy may be joining us soon!!! The faerie is feeling a bit better and I'll try to fill faer in sometime tonight on the stuff that happened. tata for now

That’s awesome Noraa. I’m really glad Flea’s okay.

~R

Qrow and Raven · Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:06 pm

In post 2173, Toogeloo wrote:T3 backed up the fact she has a lurkscum meta.

You just said T3 was lying???

-Qrow

Mandelbrot · Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:07 pm

In post 2405, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2171, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 1947, Head One and Head Two wrote:
In post 1590, Toogeloo wrote:Did anyone ever answer this, or am I blind?

In post 1502, Toogeloo wrote:Does mom have a lurkscum meta? What's with the votes?
Mom has a lurkscum meta
Lies.

VOTE: Titus

Fishing for even three names more than likely alerts scum to who has been caught. Why you bringing up these terrible ideas?
ngl, I’m kinda thinking Toog is town rn for a number of reasons.

-Qrow

Funny, that post made me want to dayvig them.

- House

Qrow and Raven · Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:07 pm

In post 2174, WhemeStar wrote:Any hammer without a claim that’s not an hour before deadline is a bad hammer

.................

-

A very disturbed Qrow

RealCheeks · Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:08 pm

Oh naughty naughty cake. Quickly looking through their iso I think there's a lot there to dig into - on a quick glance I think it confirms MB, Mandelbrot and probably wheme as town based on interactions. I would add Elsa to the list but feeling like I would probably scumread Elsa if they were my buddy in case they did go down D1. Mastina could actually be scum here, as Elsa pointed out early in the game, surely only scum would have raid mechanics? Since Mastina never lies about her role I believe it does what she says but there's no guarantee it's town.

Looking at the setup - if there were no such role that guaranteed success then town would have free access to a tool that outputs PoE pools of players, depending on the outcome. So surely it is a scum role designed to prevent/cloud the use of raids as PoE tools.

Also looking at cakez townread on her I'd say the lay up is for mastina to deep wolf to end game. The cakez guilty also makes sense from an NK PoV.

I may or may not go into this ISO more and I may check out Mirio but I think it's pretty clear that dude got killed because they were never being limmed.
~C

Mandelbrot · Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:09 pm

In post 2409, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2174, WhemeStar wrote:Any hammer without a claim that’s not an hour before deadline is a bad hammer
.................

-
A very disturbed Qrow

Yet the same brain posted 2171?

Bell · Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:09 pm

Have stuff to do. Was sircakez the scum?

Mandelbrot · Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:11 pm

In post 2411, Mandelbrot wrote:
In post 2409, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2174, WhemeStar wrote:Any hammer without a claim that’s not an hour before deadline is a bad hammer
.................

-
A very disturbed Qrow
Yet the same brain posted 2405*?

Fix't

Sakura Hana · Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:11 pm

In post 2410, RealCheeks wrote:Looking at the setup - if there were no such role that guaranteed success then town would have free access to a tool that outputs PoE pools of players, depending on the outcome. So surely it is a scum role designed to prevent/cloud the use of raids as PoE tools.

???

Mandelbrot · Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:11 pm

In post 2412, Bell wrote:Have stuff to do. Was sircakez the scum?

Yes

Vote and go do stuff.

- House

Bell · Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:11 pm

Can’t we just make this raid fail? It seems to disproportionately benefit scum. Though, I’m not clear on the difference if any between strongman and strong willed.

Qrow and Raven · Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:13 pm

In post 2392, Sakura Hana wrote:Why are you giving scum places to hide.

In post 2394, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2123, RealCheeks wrote:VOTE: Whemestar

Till romance tells me the other scum we get today.
This doesn’t vibe right

-Qrow

In post 2391, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2100, Elsa Jay wrote:How come you get to meme about the mod showing red but I can't say a miller joke? Bleh.

For the record I'd never claim miller as a miller until someone gets a guilty on me. I ain't no coward.
I used to be of the mind that you always claim Miller/Ascetic D1 but there’s a validity in not claiming it and just playing to get NKed

-Qrow

If you want to get NK’d claiming aesetic or macho is pretty much a surefire way to accomplish that.

~R

Mandelbrot · Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:13 pm

In post 2416, Bell wrote:Can’t we just make this raid fail? It seems to disproportionately benefit scum. Though, I’m not clear on the difference if any between strongman and strong willed.

Reward isn't the only reason we want raids to succeed.

- House

Mandelbrot · Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:14 pm

In post 2417, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2392, Sakura Hana wrote:Why are you giving scum places to hide.

In post 2394, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2123, RealCheeks wrote:VOTE: Whemestar

Till romance tells me the other scum we get today.
This doesn’t vibe right

-Qrow

In post 2391, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2100, Elsa Jay wrote:How come you get to meme about the mod showing red but I can't say a miller joke? Bleh.

For the record I'd never claim miller as a miller until someone gets a guilty on me. I ain't no coward.
I used to be of the mind that you always claim Miller/Ascetic D1 but there’s a validity in not claiming it and just playing to get NKed

-Qrow
If you want to get NK’d claiming aesetic or macho is pretty much a surefire way to accomplish that.

~R

We're a macho ascetic pgo.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:15 pm

In post 2416, Bell wrote:Can’t we just make this raid fail? It seems to disproportionately benefit scum. Though, I’m not clear on the difference if any between strongman and strong willed.

Since you havent read.
I'm a doctor, if this raid succeeds my heals can stop even strongman kills and i cant be roleblocked except by a strongman roleblock, and also cant be redirected except by a strongman redirector.
So it depends on whether there's scum or specifically a scum roleblocker or redirector in the raid that we should worry about.

RealCheeks · Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:17 pm

In post 2414, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2410, RealCheeks wrote:Looking at the setup - if there were no such role that guaranteed success then town would have free access to a tool that outputs PoE pools of players, depending on the outcome. So surely it is a scum role designed to prevent/cloud the use of raids as PoE tools.
???

What are you confused about?
~C

Titus · Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:18 pm

In post 2419, Mandelbrot wrote:
In post 2417, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2392, Sakura Hana wrote:Why are you giving scum places to hide.

In post 2394, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2123, RealCheeks wrote:VOTE: Whemestar

Till romance tells me the other scum we get today.
This doesn’t vibe right

-Qrow

In post 2391, Qrow and Raven wrote:
In post 2100, Elsa Jay wrote:How come you get to meme about the mod showing red but I can't say a miller joke? Bleh.

For the record I'd never claim miller as a miller until someone gets a guilty on me. I ain't no coward.
I used to be of the mind that you always claim Miller/Ascetic D1 but there’s a validity in not claiming it and just playing to get NKed

-Qrow
If you want to get NK’d claiming aesetic or macho is pretty much a surefire way to accomplish that.

~R
We're a macho ascetic pgo.

You? Me too.

Of course, I also have a 1-shot compulsive lightning rod on top.

[/joke]

RealCheeks · Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:18 pm

In post 2416, Bell wrote:Can’t we just make this raid fail? It seems to disproportionately benefit scum. Though, I’m not clear on the difference if any between strongman and strong willed.

Pretty sure only scum control whether or not a raid succeeds.
~C

Sakura Hana · Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Mon Sep 27, 2021 1:19 pm

Just that:

In post 2, GuyInFreezer wrote:If at least one member of the hostile factions are in the raid group, the said member will decide whether the raid succeeds or fail.

It's literally part of the scum things scum can do. They dont need a success role for it.