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[MathBlade]

I told Nero no and CSF no and did DGB instead

But if you’re so insistent House won’t play ball then let’s just flip his butt today.

[Titus]

Yup, this is the Math bullies town show. Scum ride along.

House would just have lied long ago as scum and then claim blocked.

Claiming blocked = scum claim too.

Scum House who is not a rolecop has to get a result and guess.

Two investigatives and a protective and a vig and scum have no roleblocker. You're out of your mind. That's plausible.

I'm tired of you trying to dictate what to do to this thread.

Scum are coasting because of you and you give them a pass.

[Kerset]

I wish we could get elim done instead of discussing night actions for 8 time. Especially when PR says 'i don't care about your opinions, i will do whatever i want'

[MathBlade]

I wish we could get elim done instead of discussing night actions for 8 time. Especially when PR says 'i don't care about your opinions, i will do whatever i want'

Then join me on House.

Because Ythan I will never join unless it’s like L-1 and two seconds before EOD as it has my entire PoE.

[MathBlade]

E-1 sorry

[MathBlade]

Yup, this is the Math bullies town show. Scum ride along.

House would just have lied long ago as scum and then claim blocked.

Claiming blocked = scum claim too.

Scum House who is not a rolecop has to get a result and guess.

Two investigatives and a protective and a vig and scum have no roleblocker. You're out of your mind. That's plausible.

I'm tired of you trying to dictate what to do to this thread.

Scum are coasting because of you and you give them a pass.

TA only town invest scum no blocker plus VT only jailkeep makes sense with backup vig IC

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Ssbm is probably scum.

Is that why I have no idea what they've been saying? I feel like I am reading the game on mushrooms.

First one to assume a TA exists. Trying to get them to waste their shot.

Feeding into wasting said TA's action.

Trying to control House.

I technically suggested a PT cop or TA in the DGB/me hood long before Kyo.

Your logic is flawed.

My problem is ssbm sheeping that crap.

Also ssbm outed in thread revealing it to scum if it exists.

I am not sheeping that, I've come to the conclusion on my own. Outing it is not a problem, because it is pro-town to reveal.it regardless of House's alignment. If he is town, his neighborizer is negative utility. If he is scum who actually has a neighborizer, revealing the probable existence of a TA discourages him from using it to obfuscate results, because he's been publicly discouraged from doing so.

[Titus]

I wish we could get elim done instead of discussing night actions for 8 time. Especially when PR says 'i don't care about your opinions, i will do whatever i want'

Me too but MathBlade insists on derailing and trying to force his will rather than listen. He thinks his whole PoE is largely the same people who pushed Wake. His PoE is the people who won't obey him.

[Titus]

Let's just lim Ythan and move on like adults.

[MathBlade]

Ssbm is probably scum.

Is that why I have no idea what they've been saying? I feel like I am reading the game on mushrooms.

First one to assume a TA exists. Trying to get them to waste their shot.

Feeding into wasting said TA's action.

Trying to control House.

I technically suggested a PT cop or TA in the DGB/me hood long before Kyo.

Your logic is flawed.

My problem is ssbm sheeping that crap.

Also ssbm outed in thread revealing it to scum if it exists.

I am not sheeping that, I've come to the conclusion on my own. Outing it is not a problem, because it is pro-town to reveal.it regardless of House's alignment. If he is town, his neighborizer is negative utility. If he is scum who actually has a neighborizer, revealing the probable existence of a TA discourages him from using it to obfuscate results, because he's been publicly discouraged from doing so.

This. So much this.

He said he’s not rolecopping CSF. Which means scum don’t shoot House or CSF.

House either rolecops CSF or doesn’t.

He says he won’t.

I am tired of saving him from himself and this is the foregone conclusion.

[DrippingGoofball]

What is "backup vig IC" - innocent child?

[MathBlade]

What is "backup vig IC" - innocent child?

It’s slang

Vig can’t be assigned to scum in normal rules.

So if anyone rolecops Vig they are conf town.

So even if let’s say CSF had Miller disloyal superscummy modifiers up the butt CSF has to be town.

So CSF would be innocent child by another name

Which is why House not checking CSF is pretty damning

[MathBlade]

Loyal* sorry mixed them up

[DrippingGoofball]

So it's impossible that CSF is lying about the role?

[MathBlade]

So it's impossible that CSF is lying about the role?

It’s possible for CSF to be, but that’s why House is supposed to check CSF.

But since he said he won’t he’s probably scum.

[MathBlade]

Because confirming or denying scum is the point of an invest. If he won’t do it with his one shot he’s scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

So House checks CSF.

Maybe House gets NK 'd.

Maybe CSF gets NK'd.

Maybe House gets roleblocked.

If House gets a guilty do you believe him?

If he gets an inno, do you believe him?

If he gets an inno, then CSF will be NK'd and it will all be wasted.

Why are we investing so much into a claim of "backup vig?"

What a pointless exercise, high risk and low reward.

[MathBlade]

So House checks CSF.

Maybe House gets NK 'd.

Maybe CSF gets NK'd.

Maybe House gets roleblocked.

If House gets a guilty do you believe him?

If he gets an inno, do you believe him?

If he gets an inno, then CSF will be NK'd and it will all be wasted.

Why are we investing so much into a claim of "backup vig?"

What a pointless exercise, high risk and low reward.

House checks CSF gets a guilty means at least one scum in the mix.
House gets an inno means CSF is town or House +CSF.

If he gets an inno CSF is killed instead of invest which is protown.

We have a likely town VT in A50 and in the case of CSF town two conf town

Numbers keep shrinking and we win.

If it was anything besides backup vig then I might agree but backup vig is one of the few roles that is an easy firm for a rolecop. Almost any other player you’d need another claim then replace with your argument.

We have me or CSF that can be checked. Or you. Lots of claims.

[Titus]

Yeah, Mathblade's position on rolecopping CSF is not bad. It might be a huge waste though, particularly if we believe CSF. If we don't believe CSF, then we should eliminate him.

The only hesitation is that scum cannot have vigs in a normal so having his role confitmed means CSF can only be scum with House.

[MathBlade]

We cut down a shit ton of possibilities with a CSF check.
If scum were afraid of a rolecop check House would be dead.
Instead they went after a “watcher” crumb/non claim.
Which means they likely have at most 1 goon.

[Titus]

I object to Math saying he's scum for not wanting to comply with the plan.

[MathBlade]

Yeah, Mathblade's position on rolecopping CSF is not bad. It might be a huge waste though, particularly if we believe CSF. If we don't believe CSF, then we should eliminate him.

The only hesitation is that scum cannot have vigs in a normal so having his role confitmed means CSF can only be scum with House.

Exactly. If it was any other role claimed then there might be some argument

But it’s vig.

So if House doesn’t rolecop (which amounts to a real cop) on House I don’t give a fuck and will turbo elim him.

[MathBlade]

On CSF sorry

[MathBlade]

There’s no better shot for a rolecop than when it’s a real cop.

Object all you want but it’s true.

[Titus]

No. This is not a King MathBlade game. Differences of opinion aren't necessarily scum.

Can you just vote Ythan so we can move on? The rest of the town wants it. (In b4 they are my PoE)