Mini Normal 2238 | Game Over

[Ythan]

Now, with a cop claim, however, if I die tonight, Ythan is confirmed scum and I'm fine with that trade.

This is idiotic but you don't control the elimination so it's harmless.

[House]

Let's just check Ythan and yeet CSF.

Your vote would be appreciated House.

VOTE: CSF

For great justice!

[Ythan]

Dragon claim basically confirms Titus claim. Not really the alignment but TA itself has huge interaction with mailman as "he can communicate outside the thread". So what the heck is cop doing here? The answer is simple Ythan pulled the most obvious "dont vote me today card". It was the most obvious safe he could pull but people over here will buy any story out of fear, so such cheap moves works.

YES!

I know! But we can't get any momentum because "it'll sort itself."

You can put it in quotes but it's still true Iol.

[House]

It’d be an awesome apology if you checked CSF House.

Are you gonna make me get a puppy eye gif?

I explained clearly why I won't do that, and it's not too be mean to you.

CSF could easily call for me to waste my shot as an ascetic, them claim I'm scum making excuses when I have no result.

It would probably have worked too, as most everyone is/was royally pissed at me.

[MathBlade]

I think they should both check him that way no way can argue they were blocked or some shit.

We aren't wasting invests.

Plus I think CSF is town so if House disagrees good invest for house.

Based on?

There is no vig for him to backup anymore.

Gut vibes and claiming something that a regular cop and a TA could guilty him on.

At that point TA was suspected to exist.

I don’t think CSF does a backup vig claim just to not have a claim prepped for Ythan which means if Ythan scum telling the truth or town. So Ythan could be forced to check CSF (suboptimal) and then be in shit without a paddle.

So one of CSF/Ythan has to be town if not both.

I think the claim/plan from CSF is so bad it’s good. Especially if House is scum.

[MathBlade]

It’d be an awesome apology if you checked CSF House.

Are you gonna make me get a puppy eye gif?

I explained clearly why I won't do that, and it's not too be mean to you.

CSF could easily call for me to waste my shot as an ascetic, them claim I'm scum making excuses when I have no result.

It would probably have worked too, as most everyone is/was royally pissed at me.

Then your check still investigates CSF scum so it’s not a waste?

[Nero Cain]

I think with 11 alive that doesn’t add up.

there are 12 alive.

This was a 13 player. Occam's says there were 3 scum. We killed 1 scum meaning the are 2 left. 12-2 is 10 meaning there are 10 town. There are 7 pr claims and 4 vt claims. A 5/5 town split more way more sense to me than a 6/4 or 7/3. Thus 2 of the prs are lying. Math is in your username. C'mon man.

[House]

It’d be an awesome apology if you checked CSF House.

Are you gonna make me get a puppy eye gif?

I explained clearly why I won't do that, and it's not too be mean to you.

CSF could easily call for me to waste my shot as an ascetic, them claim I'm scum making excuses when I have no result.

It would probably have worked too, as most everyone is/was royally pissed at me.

Then your check still investigates CSF scum so it’s not a waste?

Any check with no result is a waste, as no result is by definition inconclusive.

There is motive for scum!CSF to ask to be rolecopped if she's ascetic.

I'm checking someone who has not specifically asked for it.

[House]

If Titus checks CSF and gets no result, she can try again on someone else

I can't.

[MathBlade]

I think with 11 alive that doesn’t add up.

there are 12 alive.

This was a 13 player. Occam's says there were 3 scum. We killed 1 scum meaning the are 2 left. 12-2 is 10 meaning there are 10 town. There are 7 pr claims and 4 vt claims. A 5/5 town split more way more sense to me than a 6/4 or 7/3. Thus 2 of the prs are lying. Math is in your username. C'mon man.

I don’t think so. I am a VT JK. The best way to weaken my PR is with someone like a CSF. A named Townie aka chocolate Townie but not. Then you have the effect of a 5/5 as you call it while not having too much power.

[Nero Cain]

OMFG Math you've been here 8 years? how do you not understand basic setup design?

[MathBlade]

If Titus checks CSF and gets no result, she can try again on someone else

I can't.

If you’re town correct which means it should be used in a way that confirms you did,
If you check an investigative like Titus or Ythan you could just be a scum roleblocker.
I would much rather if you not check CSF check a VT claim or someone who can’t invest,
But really because you’re one shot it should be on CSF who can confirm you did. CSF can’t confirm if Ythan or Titus do. He has to confirm you town if you are.

But CSF really is the best check for you.
If any invest other than you claims roleblocked I am gonna be paranoid because of the BS you pulled and think you’re a roleblocker.

[MathBlade]

OMFG Math you've been here 8 years? how do you not understand basic setup design?

I do. I also know how scum manipulate it and how town sided setups can be.

In recent setups your premise hasn’t held up

[MathBlade]

I would rather not guess the mod I would rather guess the players.

[Nero Cain]

Now I can save mine for someone more useful!

Also thought this was pretty weird. You think scum are CSF and Ythan and were are about to vote out CSF leaving 1 last scum yet your check on him is "not useful" I call bullshit. If you think he's the last scum left (assuming CSF flips scum) then he's the guy you want to check. Even if CSF didn't flip scum he's still your scum read and a worthwhile check FYPOV.

[MathBlade]

Now I can save mine for someone more useful!

Also thought this was pretty weird. You think scum are CSF and Ythan and were are about to vote out CSF leaving 1 last scum yet your check on him is "not useful" I call bullshit. If you think he's the last scum left (assuming CSF flips scum) then he's the guy you want to check. Even if CSF didn't flip scum he's still your scum read and a worthwhile check FYPOV.

I am kinda back to Titus and House plus 1 maybe DGB maybe a VT.

I think it balances out the mass claim problem.

[Titus]

I think they should both check him that way no way can argue they were blocked or some shit.

We aren't wasting invests.

Plus I think CSF is town so if House disagrees good invest for house.

Based on?

There is no vig for him to backup anymore.

Gut vibes and claiming something that a regular cop and a TA could guilty him on.

At that point TA was suspected to exist.

I don’t think CSF does a backup vig claim just to not have a claim prepped for Ythan which means if Ythan scum telling the truth or town. So Ythan could be forced to check CSF (suboptimal) and then be in shit without a paddle.

So one of CSF/Ythan has to be town if not both.

I think the claim/plan from CSF is so bad it’s good. Especially if House is scum.

This makes no literal sense whatsoever.

No one else can have a claim prepared for a cop and the TA. They're all taken.

That doesn't mean one of CSF or Ythan must be town.

[Titus]

Now I can save mine for someone more useful!

Also thought this was pretty weird. You think scum are CSF and Ythan and were are about to vote out CSF leaving 1 last scum yet your check on him is "not useful" I call bullshit. If you think he's the last scum left (assuming CSF flips scum) then he's the guy you want to check. Even if CSF didn't flip scum he's still your scum read and a worthwhile check FYPOV.

CSF is a wasted check when we should lim CSF.

I'd rather catch the hard to get scum.

[MathBlade]

You’re misunderstanding my point.

If CSF and Ythan are scum together they would have talked about both their fake claims.

So one of them is town if not both for that reason.

[Nero Cain]

inb4 Titus is planning on killing Ythan but doesn't want to "investigate" there so she won't have to fight off paranoia that "OMG U VISITED A GUY THAT DIED!"

[Titus]

You know the scum if I am wrong. If I'm right, I'm useless anyway.

[MathBlade]

Now I can save mine for someone more useful!

Also thought this was pretty weird. You think scum are CSF and Ythan and were are about to vote out CSF leaving 1 last scum yet your check on him is "not useful" I call bullshit. If you think he's the last scum left (assuming CSF flips scum) then he's the guy you want to check. Even if CSF didn't flip scum he's still your scum read and a worthwhile check FYPOV.

CSF is a wasted check when we should lim CSF.

I'd rather catch the hard to get scum.

I don’t think CSF is scum and would rather elim in the VTs or no where.

I would want to force scum to action their claims.

[Titus]

You’re misunderstanding my point.

If CSF and Ythan are scum together they would have talked about both their fake claims.

So one of them is town if not both for that reason.

So they talked and reached that conclusion.

[Titus]

inb4 Titus is planning on killing Ythan but doesn't want to "investigate" there so she won't have to fight off paranoia that "OMG U VISITED A GUY THAT DIED!"

I would have been investigating Ythan if House hadn't agreed to do that. I said so publicly.

[MathBlade]

inb4 Titus is planning on killing Ythan but doesn't want to "investigate" there so she won't have to fight off paranoia that "OMG U VISITED A GUY THAT DIED!"

Meh I can sort her in that case.

If Ythan dies she’s scummy for trying to elim Ythan not so much if she invests elsewhere.

I don’t trust Titus or House and am considering them town worlds as a courtesy and want to see what they do. Definitely not sheeping them on an elim.

My compromise is not elimming them.