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Post Post #4500 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:52 am

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Spoiler: Dwlee watching us right now as we speculate on this wild-ass setup
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Post Post #4501 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:53 am

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For what it’s worth Titus is probably town and if I have to pick a scum in Titus or House I pick House but I just think Kerset still.

I agree with DGB’s theory.

I was scared A50 + DGB traitor with how much DGB wanted me to not protect A50 but it was just trying to win today.

If I live probably jailkeeping Kerset imho that or Kyo.
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Post Post #4502 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:54 am

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In post 4498, Nero Cain wrote: is so cringe
Cringe probably

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Post Post #4503 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:55 am

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BP on the scumteam could be a red herring and there is no vig (which seems to be the case) - or it was there to reduce the info that scum got on town's power. They wouldn't know if CSF was ascetic to dodge investigations, BP to dodge vigilantes, or both to dodge both.

So maybe assuming there is a vig is a scumslip, but I think Nero's crumbs were apparent enough that I would buy an uninformed Math drawing that conclusion. I'mma step back from this, I think setup spec is a bait in this one.
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Post Post #4504 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:55 am

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I don't really care which Titus sibling we kill but I want one of them dead at EOD
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Post Post #4505 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:56 am

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In post 4496, Nero Cain wrote:Titus, if you felt CSF was town as you said near EOD, why were you still on the CSF wagon?
I wasn't 100% sure, the claim was bad, and it was better than eliminating Kerset.
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Post Post #4506 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:58 am

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@MathBlade, who did you jail last night?

With one scum (likely), that slot is near conftown.
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Post Post #4507 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:00 am

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In post 4503, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:BP on the scumteam could be a red herring and there is no vig (which seems to be the case) - or it was there to reduce the info that scum got on town's power. They wouldn't know if CSF was ascetic to dodge investigations, BP to dodge vigilantes, or both to dodge both.

So maybe assuming there is a vig is a scumslip, but I think Nero's crumbs were apparent enough that I would buy an uninformed Math drawing that conclusion. I'mma step back from this, I think setup spec is a bait in this one.
I was under the impression that Andres was the vig going to shoot Titus as I said yesterday. He was playing similar to one and some of his posts made me think vig.

Pedit out of curiosity why Nero?

Pedit already said A50 as I was scared with how much DGB didn’t want A50 jailed that A50+DGB was a thing.
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Post Post #4508 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:04 am

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In post 4503, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:BP on the scumteam could be a red herring and there is no vig (which seems to be the case) - or it was there to reduce the info that scum got on town's power. They wouldn't know if CSF was ascetic to dodge investigations, BP to dodge vigilantes, or both to dodge both.

So maybe assuming there is a vig is a scumslip, but I think Nero's crumbs were apparent enough that I would buy an uninformed Math drawing that conclusion. I'mma step back from this, I think setup spec is a bait in this one.
Furthermore I didn’t believe Nero was a vig and if he is ??? He said he wasn’t.

Where are you getting Nero vig from? Nero is conf town anyway. He could be Miller ascetic disloyal tomatoes and I don’t care anymore it’s more scum over roles
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Post Post #4509 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:04 am

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With how backwards my reads have been maybe an Andres elim isn’t bad either
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Post Post #4510 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:05 am

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lol no
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Post Post #4511 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:07 am

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I mean
MAYBE
town power is

joat
ta
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1x cop

and that leaves the plain neighbor and the mailman as ??? but I just mean, Titus and Math's play have both been pretty scummy and bad.
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Post Post #4512 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:07 am

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With the very high likelihood of 3 scum being the answer, we can have Math jail a different VT each night.

There's 10 alive with two clears. Currently.
Math announces a jail on a VT that is NOT Nero or A50.
Suppose we miseliminate, that's 9 alive.
If there's a kill (which is on Math, which I will detail in a minute), then we hit 8 alive with 3 conftown.

Miselim,
6 alive, 2 conftown

Miseliminate,
4 alive one conftown.

If scum don't kill Math but elect to kill anywhere else, they are boned as Math just keeps clearing the VTs.

The proper play is to eliminate in the PR claims, even though I think it is SSBM.
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Post Post #4513 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:10 am

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Why should Math not jail me? I'm like the only confirmed town. I mean yes, I do think that all the other vts are also town but I'm publicly confirmed not to be scum.
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Post Post #4514 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:12 am

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In post 4513, Nero Cain wrote:Why should Math not jail me? I'm like the only confirmed town. I mean yes, I do think that all the other vts are also town but I'm publicly confirmed not to be scum.
Because there's one scum alive.

Every conftown they kill, Math replaces with another one.
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Post Post #4515 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:12 am

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A50 is also conftown
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Post Post #4516 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:16 am

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I mean, I don't care about dying but I'm the correct keep b/c im cop cleared. If Math is town and too little to do the pro-town thing then that's on him but making sure that the inno stays alive seems like the correct play, no?
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Post Post #4517 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:16 am

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In post 4503, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:BP on the scumteam could be a red herring and there is no vig (which seems to be the case) - or it was there to reduce the info that scum got on town's power. They wouldn't know if CSF was ascetic to dodge investigations, BP to dodge vigilantes, or both to dodge both.

So maybe assuming there is a vig is a scumslip, but I think Nero's crumbs were apparent enough that I would buy an uninformed Math drawing that conclusion. I'mma step back from this, I think setup spec is a bait in this one.
There may be red herring roles on the town side, too.
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Post Post #4518 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:16 am

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Scum can either kill Math, capping the conftown at 3.
No kill, ensuring Math just jails the same VT over and over until we elim every other PR, giving us a near Auto.
Kill A50/Nero who just get replaced by another conftown because we all know that player didn't shoot.
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Post Post #4519 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:18 am

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In post 4516, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, I don't care about dying but I'm the correct keep b/c im cop cleared. If Math is town and too little to do the pro-town thing then that's on him but making sure that the inno stays alive seems like the correct play, no?
Usually yes, but if scum shoot the confclears, Math just replaces them and eventually scum would lose.
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Post Post #4520 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:21 am

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Pretty much gonna sheep DGB as I was a dumb on who to jailkeep of the VT claims.

No reason to announce DGB can announce it after I die and I will crumb as insurance in case DGB traitor but I agree with it scum is probably going.

At least my mech spec has been right even though reads weren’t. So minor blessing.
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Post Post #4521 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:22 am

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Probably going to be a goon*.
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Post Post #4522 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:24 am

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Math, I don't trust any of us to read your crumb language and the whole point is so EVERYONE knows who is the clear and it's not up for debate. If DGB was the cop clear, I'd agree with your method.
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Post Post #4523 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:25 am

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Oh :/ Derp

Who was your TA check Titus?
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Post Post #4524 (ISO) » Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:27 am

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In post 4523, MathBlade wrote:Oh :/ Derp

Who was your TA check Titus?
Ythan. I figured my TA was useless in 3 scum scenario (most likely), so the only useful thing I could do was conftown Nero even if Ythan was scum which I thought he was.
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