Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[tictac]

notice the word 'if' there.

[Qrow and Raven]

You told us we we weren’t an improvement over Elsa and raid failed. - which you were on and you’re my #1 pick for at least one scum on that raid. That makes me think you either wanted Elsa to be on the raid as a fall guy or if he is actually suicidal scum here, are bussing him. I lean the former or you wouldn’t have tried to prevent us from swiching with him.

lo, what exactly makes u think scum-elsa was gonna out from the raid?

+ i'm pretty sure u partners by now from how u keep 'scumreading' him yet sliding off the actual vote.

We’re the ones who tried to switch with him and you, TC and Arc prevented it. Like I said, if you really believed Elsa is scum, you wouldn’t have tried to prevent us from switching with him.

So, your reasoning makes absolutely no sense here.

~R

u fully neglected to adress the question in any way.

what would be an improvement for you

-Qrow

if elsa gives way to bears I'll give way to H12.

~R

Why don’t you answer it first? Why did you make #3784?

You explain that first , then I’ll answer.

~R

[Qrow and Raven]

notice the word 'if' there.

And how is that any different then what we posted?

It also doesn’t explain why you brought up Bears. Did you actually think Elsa would switch with them and if so, why?

~R

[tictac]

3784wut

[tictac]

u asked what would be an improvement, and bears came to mind.

[Qrow and Raven]

3784wut

#3974, I have dyslexia.

I made it clear in my post exactly what I was referring to.

~R

[Qrow and Raven]

#3874

[tictac]

3874
can u just quote the post. i dunno what u talking about

[tictac]

3874o u mean [post]2838[/quote]
i made that cause i dunno if elsa is scum or not, i have suspicion, that is all

[Qrow and Raven]

u asked what would be an improvement, and bears came to mind.

I find it really strange that you were hard tr us until we tried to switch with you, toog and Elsa on that failed raid. Something doesn’t add up about that at all.

What bothers me is that Elsa wasn’t even posting att time and you made it a point of saying we wouldn’t be an “improvement”. That’s what makes me think you’re either scum with or without Elsa, because why would town!you have made that comment, considering your earlier Elsa comment. Your shade on us just came out of the blue.

~R

[tictac]

there was like a brief part of day1 when I had a tr on u.
if u didn't notice it going away u weren't paying attention.

[Qrow and Raven]

Fuck! I just ISO’d her and caught her ellitelling.

so i kinda like the agression from you both, and the bit with the heads disagreeing felt real.
this is not how doing an ISO works tho.

so can we yeet mom now?

hokay raven, here's the case on you.

day 1:
gamma: is familiar of elsas meta yet his day1 posting about elsa gives easy townpoints for stuff that is fully NAI for elsa (bravery, multiball spec). partner-read or attempt to pocket, currently leanin former.
raven: lied about doing an ISO on AA (described process is not how the site works)
day2:
gamma: was ok
raven: huge reaction to me saying I don't trust them doesn't match them insisting they didn't care if they were on the raid or not. said they wanted contributing slots on the raid, but was fully OK with Tomorrow being included, so I'm calling bull. admittedly I dunno what is the scum motivation to be on the raid given, that buddy already on it.
all of her focus on my read on her("what is tictacs threat-level?") and others reads on me("is he mislynchable?"), none of her focus on whether or not I was town ("

should

i be pushing tictac"), given that 2 slots were claiming info-that-makes-me-town, so its super not rocket-science that I in fact am.

And here, more contradictory reads on us. First you tr us for our “aggression”, then you straight up accuse me of lying for the exact same thing. Why would I tr you for that?

~R

[Qrow and Raven]

3874
can u just quote the post. i dunno what u talking about

I already did.

~R

[tictac]

did i ask u to tr me? no i did not.
coflicted reads are not townreads.

[Titus]

I agree with tictac possibly being scum.

House, you're confusing me. You want to tell mastina a secret but you don't want to wait on her results?

[Qrow and Raven]

there was like a brief part of day1 when I had a tr on u.
if u didn't notice it going away u weren't paying attention.

I think your shade on us was very convenient and sudden. And the fact that you’re being intentionally obtuse and ignoring what I’m asking just convinces me more and more that I’m not wrong.

~R

[Qrow and Raven]

Even if you did think we were suspicious, there are varied levels of suspicion. Were we that suspect to you that even though you thought Elsa was problematic from word one we weren’t an improvement?
And wrt our voting your little “off and on Elsa” argument is laughable given that WE ARE A HYDRA. I think Elsa is the simplest vote this day phase, but Nancy disapproves of your trajectory on us. At this point a combination of general game frustration and not wanting to feud with my partner is resulting in me letting her command the vote.

-Qrow

[tictac]

You told us we we weren’t an improvement over Elsa and raid failed. - which you were on and you’re my #1 pick for at least one scum on that raid. That makes me think you either wanted Elsa to be on the raid as a fall guy or if he is actually suicidal scum here, are bussing him. I lean the former or you wouldn’t have tried to prevent us from swiching with him.

lo, what exactly makes u think scum-elsa was gonna out from the raid?

+ i'm pretty sure u partners by now from how u keep 'scumreading' him yet sliding off the actual vote.

We’re the ones who tried to switch with him and you, TC and Arc prevented it. Like I said, if you really believed Elsa is scum, you wouldn’t have tried to prevent us from switching with him.

So, your reasoning makes absolutely no sense here.

~R

u fully neglected to adress the question in any way.

speaking of intentionally obtuse.
there's still no answer to this one.

[Qrow and Raven]

did i ask u to tr me? no i did not.
coflicted reads are not townreads.

It’s frequently a scumtell. I caught sheep doing that in Forest Fire but what bothers me even more is why you continue to refuse to answer a single one of my questions.

Like 3874.

~R

[tictac]

Even if you did think we were suspicious, there are varied levels of suspicion. Were we that suspect to you that even though you thought Elsa was problematic from word one we weren’t an improvement?
And wrt our voting your little “off and on Elsa” argument is laughable given that WE ARE A HYDRA. I think Elsa is the simplest vote this day phase, but Nancy disapproves of your trajectory on us. At this point a combination of general game frustration and not wanting to feud with my partner is resulting in me letting her command the vote.

-Qrow

seems convenient.

[Qrow and Raven]

You told us we we weren’t an improvement over Elsa and raid failed. - which you were on and you’re my #1 pick for at least one scum on that raid. That makes me think you either wanted Elsa to be on the raid as a fall guy or if he is actually suicidal scum here, are bussing him. I lean the former or you wouldn’t have tried to prevent us from swiching with him.

lo, what exactly makes u think scum-elsa was gonna out from the raid?

+ i'm pretty sure u partners by now from how u keep 'scumreading' him yet sliding off the actual vote.

We’re the ones who tried to switch with him and you, TC and Arc prevented it. Like I said, if you really believed Elsa is scum, you wouldn’t have tried to prevent us from switching with him.

So, your reasoning makes absolutely no sense here.

~R

u fully neglected to adress the question in any way.

speaking of intentionally obtuse.
there's still no answer to this one.

I already told you, you answer my question first.

~R

[Qrow and Raven]

what would be an improvement for you

-Qrow

if elsa gives way to bears I'll give way to H12.

~R

I’m going to fucking lose it on this slot with the way he keeps avoiding this.

~R

[tictac]

did i ask u to tr me? no i did not.
coflicted reads are not townreads.

It’s frequently a scumtell. I caught sheep doing that in Forest Fire but what bothers me even more is why you continue to refuse to answer a single one of my questions.

Like 3874.

~R

i did answer that.
pedit: okay i'll expand then.
given that i don't actually know if elsa is scum, he might be persuaded to trade for a mutually better-valued wagon, and i figured bears and H12 were universal trs.

[Qrow and Raven]

did i ask u to tr me? no i did not.
coflicted reads are not townreads.

It’s frequently a scumtell. I caught sheep doing that in Forest Fire but what bothers me even more is why you continue to refuse to answer a single one of my questions.

Like 3874.

~R

i did answer that.
pedit: okay i'll expand then.
given that i don't actually know if elsa is scum, he might be persuaded to trade for a mutually better-valued wagon, and i figured bears and H12 were universal trs.

Well considering he wasn’t even posting att you made that post, why did you prefer Elsa to us? You’ve been shading us ever since we tried to get on that raid A raid that failed which we weren’t even on.

~R

[Qrow and Raven]

I mean it obviously isn’t but it irks me anytime I get shaded with no explanation given.

I'm not really interested in casing you when I'm not trying to get you yeeted.
I don't need a reason for why I 'deserve' a spot on the raid. I have one, and it's mine unless I choose to give it up.
you are not scummier than Elsa(*), that's why I tried to negotiate for a not!elsa raid, but I

can

just go: "I'm not moving, lol", if it looks like that approach works better.

(*)the intensity of this reaction is

weird

for someone who says they don't really care if they are on the raid or not tho.

And this post. If you really think that, then your entire trajectory on our slot makes no sense. If we were buddies with whichever slot(s) caused the raid to fail then why would we have even been so hard trying to get on it. If we weren’t actually doing that, then what you’re saying wouldn’t be so whack.

~R