Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Qrow and Raven]

Nope he didn’t, apparently that was mod error.

~R

[Qrow and Raven]

What makes you think that

Because the VC said he did. Ask GiF. I’m not making that up. He was the hammer despite never actually self-voting.

[Qrow and Raven]

I mean, tictac's town for other reasons anyway.

What reasons?

~R

[Sakura Hana]

Dwlee99
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
Sakura Hana
Romance
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

Like from this list i dont really see who could be, i keep whacking my brain, ppl say TC is town,

tictac's flavor claim seems to imply they are town?

(hope toog helps with that), Bell's supposed to be town by meta, Romance is clearly town. I thought RealCheeks wanting to give a finals reads list was towny, could go dwlee i guess if people are that convinced EJ who keeps trying to break townreads is town.

tictac's flavor claim seems to imply they are town?

Ehhh... it does, actually.

Damn

- House

[tictac]

Because the VC said he did. Ask GiF. I’m not making that up. He was the hammer despite never actually self-voting.

can confirm.

I don't actually remember u defending Elsa, just tryng to drive a couterwagon into town, while scumreading him. not really the same thing.

@TC if u want cred 4 QR u gotta keep voting there

[Sakura Hana]

I guess i didnt bother to check the VC since i was there when the votes and hammer happened so I already knew how it went down.

[Qrow and Raven]

Dwlee99
RealCheeks
Bell
Elsa Jay
Sakura Hana
Romance
tictac
Tomorrow Corporation

Like from this list i dont really see who could be, i keep whacking my brain, ppl say TC is town,

tictac's flavor claim seems to imply they are town?

(hope toog helps with that), Bell's supposed to be town by meta, Romance is clearly town. I thought RealCheeks wanting to give a finals reads list was towny, could go dwlee i guess if people are that convinced EJ who keeps trying to break townreads is town.

tictac's flavor claim seems to imply they are town?

Ehhh... it does, actually.

Damn

- House

Do you think scum couldn’t have had fakeclaims? Cakez already proved they have.

~R

[Sakura Hana]

Do you think scum couldn’t have had fakeclaims? Cakez already proved they have.

As far as I remember tictac's flavor was someone very important to the story or something one of the leaders or whatever, so it's more likely to come from a town player than the claims we've seen from the 2 flipped scum so far which are just minor characters.

[Qrow and Raven]

Because the VC said he did. Ask GiF. I’m not making that up. He was the hammer despite never actually self-voting.

can confirm.

I don't actually remember u defending Elsa, just tryng to drive a couterwagon into town, while scumreading him. not really the same thing.

@TC if u want cred 4 QR u gotta keep voting there

If you think I’m just going to allow you to try to drive a miselim on me so you are very sadly mistaken.

~R

[tictac]

Would be interested in what do you think of the theory that scum was a bit slow to join day 2 raid, but at the time they didnt know who the guilty was in, so since it was on cakez, EJ would not be able to leave, and Mystic Bears proposed raid adjustment was to help EJ get out of the raid while also failing it.

i mean, could be. I remember having a TR there, but I don't actually remember why.
don't really think straigh-up defending is scummy tho. lots of folk gonna TR elsa the first go around.

[Qrow and Raven]

Do you think scum couldn’t have had fakeclaims? Cakez already proved they have.

As far as I remember tictac's flavor was someone very important to the story or something one of the leaders or whatever, so it's more likely to come from a town player than the claims we've seen from the 2 flipped scum so far which are just minor characters.

But he’s being so scummy.

Isn’t it possible that scum came up with fake flavour claims? So that’s not clearing.

I also think that there’s no way scum wouldn’t have bussed Elsa, so there logically has to be at least one scum on his wagon.

~R

[Sakura Hana]

If there's a bus, high chance is in these names:

Elsa Jay (5): mastina, tictac, Tomorrow Corporation, Romance, Sakura Hana

VOTE: Elsa Jay

VOTE: Elsa

VOTE: Elsa

VOTE: Elsa Jay

That's hammer, no?

[Sakura Hana]

the 4 latecomers i mean.

[Qrow and Raven]

Would be interested in what do you think of the theory that scum was a bit slow to join day 2 raid, but at the time they didnt know who the guilty was in, so since it was on cakez, EJ would not be able to leave, and Mystic Bears proposed raid adjustment was to help EJ get out of the raid while also failing it.

i mean, could be. I remember having a TR there, but I don't actually remember why.
don't really think straigh-up defending is scummy tho. lots of folk gonna TR elsa the first go around.

If there’s a world where you’re actually town, then try to find actual scum - not us.

~R

[Sakura Hana]

There was pretty good resistance to the EJ wagon at first, even tho mystic bears said the opposite. Then suddenly when toog outs EJ's flavor claim as a VT the wagon finishes.

[Qrow and Raven]

If there's a bus, high chance is in these names:

Elsa Jay (5): mastina, tictac, Tomorrow Corporation, Romance, Sakura Hana

VOTE: Elsa Jay

VOTE: Elsa

VOTE: Elsa

VOTE: Elsa Jay

That's hammer, no?

My issue is none of these tried to ram through failed raid. I would probably lim RC over Mandel but I’d rather flip someone who tried to ram through failed raid. Scum obviously wanted raid to fail, so that leaves TC and Arc.

~R

[Sakura Hana]

i mean EJ was in the failed raid, so clearly EJ is the one that made it fail.
Dont forget, before the MB plan to switch the raid members EJ was hyper reluctant to leave the raid, but after, they started thinking that they probably could switch out of the raid.
This makes me believe that scum wanted the raid to fail, but EJ was the only one in there so they were very reluctant to do so.
tictac is right that the events there makes you look sus af.

[Qrow and Raven]

i mean EJ was in the failed raid, so clearly EJ is the one that made it fail.
Dont forget, before the MB plan to switch the raid members EJ was hyper reluctant to leave the raid, but after, they started thinking that they probably could switch out of the raid.
This makes me believe that scum wanted the raid to fail, but EJ was the only one in there so they were very reluctant to do so.
tictac is right that the events there makes you look sus af.

Really? I see the exact opposite. I think we should be mech town because we were trying to stop a raid that fucking failed. How does any of that make us Elsa’s buddy?

~R

[Save The Dragons]

mandelbrot mandelbrot mandelbrot mandelbrot

[Sakura Hana]

i mean EJ was in the failed raid, so clearly EJ is the one that made it fail.
Dont forget, before the MB plan to switch the raid members EJ was hyper reluctant to leave the raid, but after, they started thinking that they probably could switch out of the raid.
This makes me believe that scum wanted the raid to fail, but EJ was the only one in there so they were very reluctant to do so.
tictac is right that the events there makes you look sus af.

Really? I see the exact opposite. I think we should be mech town because we were trying to stop a raid that fucking failed. How does any of that make us Elsa’s buddy?

~R

Because you wouldnt want your Elsa buddy to be PoE'd scum in the failed raid instead of you who is already being SR by a fair ammount of people.

[Qrow and Raven]

i mean EJ was in the failed raid, so clearly EJ is the one that made it fail.
Dont forget, before the MB plan to switch the raid members EJ was hyper reluctant to leave the raid, but after, they started thinking that they probably could switch out of the raid.
This makes me believe that scum wanted the raid to fail, but EJ was the only one in there so they were very reluctant to do so.
tictac is right that the events there makes you look sus af.

Really? I see the exact opposite. I think we should be mech town because we were trying to stop a raid that fucking failed. How does any of that make us Elsa’s buddy?

~R

Because you wouldnt want your Elsa buddy to be PoE'd scum in the failed raid instead of you who is already being SR by a fair ammount of people.

No we weren't??? The scumpool att was Cakez/elsa/arc/StD/wheme

-Qrow

[Qrow and Raven]

i mean EJ was in the failed raid, so clearly EJ is the one that made it fail.
Dont forget, before the MB plan to switch the raid members EJ was hyper reluctant to leave the raid, but after, they started thinking that they probably could switch out of the raid.
This makes me believe that scum wanted the raid to fail, but EJ was the only one in there so they were very reluctant to do so.
tictac is right that the events there makes you look sus af.

This is level one logic. Do you seriously think Elsa was being genuine with that? If Elsa actually meant it, he would have actually left the raid. Instead he took the opportunity to mess with the optics, making it look like he was good with the switcheroo. I don't think it's fair to townblock the remainder of the D2 raid either. What happened to tictac being suspicious for the shaky confirmed status he tried to push along? I'll accept that TC is probably good knowing that he's Kokichi, because certain actions he took seem genuinely meant to help town. But tictac is not acting in good faith imo, and it bothers me that you seem to be taken in by his antics.

-Qrow

[Toogeloo]

-Romance... What is your Flavor name?
-Why is Wheme being largely ignored, like, this entire game?
-21 players with 1 kill a night still feels weird.

[Toogeloo]

Q&R is still one of my strong town reads.

I have other thoughts, but now is not the time to share them, but I started with those 3.

[Romance]

I am Urianger, also Uriangry because he’s ugly.