Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Dwlee99]

Fun tidbit: on the night I was roleblocked I was checking Elsa Jay.

does this mean you weren't rb'd last night?

o:

Also thought the same thing

[Mystic Bears]

I mean, tictac's town for other reasons anyway.

What notes I do have, don't rate tictac well. Wanna give me the rundown?

-Flea

[Dwlee99]

Thinking I'm scum is silly

[Mystic Bears]

Do you think scum couldn’t have had fakeclaims? Cakez already proved they have.

As far as I remember tictac's flavor was someone very important to the story or something one of the leaders or whatever, so it's more likely to come from a town player than the claims we've seen from the 2 flipped scum so far which are just minor characters.

Whooo flavourmech!

I hate it and I'm trying to get it out of my games... lol

-Flea

[Dwlee99]

Flea I'm excited for your next mini theme!

[Mystic Bears]

-Romance... What is your Flavor name?
-Why is Wheme being largely ignored, like, this entire game?
-21 players with 1 kill a night still feels weird.

Really? Singleball not a thing?

-F

[Dwlee99]

Also I'd be cool with flavor claims except I think it'd out a conftown if my h1h2 theory is right

[Mystic Bears]

Flea I'm excited for your next mini theme!

Glad you are because I'm BRICKING myself over it. I'm still trying to tweak the core mechanic of it >.<

-F

[Tomorrow Corporation]

RealCheeks is probably town throwing a tantrum but sometimes you need to put down daffy ducks.

[Mystic Bears]

1) during the last raid, if I were scum, I would've failed it. Like unless anyone thinks the scum team is all on that raid, I absolutely would've failed it as scum.

Because you failing it would do much against mastina's auto success ability? lol

2) I bus my buddy Elsa there. What do I gain from being so certain he's town. Literally nothing but a buttload of scum reads when he flips red. Absolutely wouldn't do that.

This is a fair point tho.

Meh I didn't think that through. But I guess theres always the possibility that Mastina decided not to use her ability. I think that if she was wise, she would've saved it because bulletproof really doesn't mean shit now knowing scum have a strongman. There were already heavy suspicions on that yesterday so it would've been smart to save it and take the risk.

Yeah duh I wouldn't. Hard white knighting a buddy thats going under: not in my scum range

[Sakura Hana]

Meh I didn't think that through. But I guess theres always the possibility that Mastina decided not to use her ability.

She said if dwlee was in the raid group she'd use her ability and dwlee was in the raid group, dont care whether she used it or not tbh since it's better to not know anyway.

[Sakura Hana]

So, a question if you would have absolutely failed the raid, why now bulletproof doesnt mean much so mastina should've saved her auto success ability?
It's not like we knew for sure if scum had strongman before then.

[Dwlee99]

I want to see h1h2's role, where is Mastina?

[Mandelbrot]

Mandelbrot should be higher I think.

I like where we are.

- House

[Bell]

Can I quote the sequence of posts that make me an IC or would that be unfair to the scum team.

[Bell]

I wanna coast until we win or we're in elo and I have to try again

[Mandelbrot]

Hmm, MB probably scum from that idk.

Also:

One of my current townreads will plummet if Elsa flips red, though.

- House

I'm curious about this, since Elsa did indeed flip red.

Mystic Bears fought tooth and nail to defend Elsa when I was calling for him to leave the raid on d2.

I think it was d2?

- House

[Bell]

Didn't Romance defend Elsa or did I hallucinate that.
And no this isn't an FOS or throwing shade or whatever,
I just feel kind of gaslit because I thought they were defending El...

Oh they were defending TC nvm.

[Mandelbrot]

Hmm, MB probably scum from that idk.

Also:

One of my current townreads will plummet if Elsa flips red, though.

- House

I'm curious about this, since Elsa did indeed flip red.

Mystic Bears fought tooth and nail to defend Elsa when I was calling for him to leave the raid on d2.

I think it was d2?

- House

Like, I was getting, "shut up, we're Masons" kinda vibes from the hard defense & the way MB submitted a raid list exchanging his name for Elsa's.

[Mandelbrot]

Here's a theory about what happened day2:
Elsa is not a fall-guy-scum. Elsa is a carry-scum. Him being caught in poe was very bad for the scumteam, but he could not out because then there's nooo scumz in the raid and romance gets a strongwilled result.
Enter bears-plan, and suddenly theres a way to get someone besides Elsa to be the fall-guy. maybe someone better positioned so they get some miseets out of it too. So that's why Raven was so hyped to get raiding.
they actually did intend to use the plan to switch places w elsa, and that is why that is the framing they keep using.
only things got cut short by AA and TC, soo i'm thinking those slots are associative probtown.

Would be interested in what do you think of the theory that scum was a bit slow to join day 2 raid, but at the time they didnt know who the guilty was in, so since it was on cakez, EJ would not be able to leave, and Mystic Bears proposed raid adjustment was to help EJ get out of the raid while also failing it.

Why did EJ need to get out of the raid? Sorry im lost here

Also im here gz on catching scum guys this is twice now that I come back to catch up and suddenly realize its night but I guess I can't be upset at it

I was making a big deal about booting him.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: mandelbrot

Good luck with that.

- House

[Sakura Hana]

Hmm, MB probably scum from that idk.

Also:

One of my current townreads will plummet if Elsa flips red, though.

- House

I'm curious about this, since Elsa did indeed flip red.

Mystic Bears fought tooth and nail to defend Elsa when I was calling for him to leave the raid on d2.

I think it was d2?

- House

Ah, so that's why you voted Elsa as soon as Toog outed them as "VT"

[Bell]

No?

Okay then, let me know if you change your mind.

Ilu.

[RealCheeks]

RealCheeks is probably town throwing a tantrum but sometimes you need to put down daffy ducks.

Thoughts on StD?
~C

[Mandelbrot]

VOTE: Mandelbrot
~C

There was pretty good resistance to the EJ wagon at first, even tho mystic bears said the opposite. Then suddenly when toog outs EJ's flavor claim as a VT the wagon finishes.

Likely a deep wolf in either Toog/Mandelbrot.
~C

Translation: I have to find an excuse to vote a towny motherfucker.

- House