Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Mandelbrot]

Romance
mastina
Mandelbrot
Mystic Bears

Elsa Jay

RealCheeks
Toogeloo
Bell

Here's the day 1 raid, everyone's free to come to their own conclusions

We're town just in case I haven't mentioned that yet.
~C

Who is the scum in that list?

- House

Romance
mastina
Mandelbrot
Mystic Bears

Elsa Jay

RealCheeks
Toogeloo
Bell

Here's the day 1 raid, everyone's free to come to their own conclusions

We're town just in case I haven't mentioned that yet.
~C

Who is the scum in that list?

- House

I was thinking you or Bell but now both of you are hitting my blindside so honestly Idk but I know my alignment and if you don't take my word for it fine I know this isn't my best game and I feel bad for that after RCE graciously allowed me to play.
~C

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

- House

[Bell]

I mean, I've offered to just spell it out for everyone but nobody ever took me up on my offer. It would just be a line of choice quotes tho.

Meh, let me go get them instead of obsessing over stuff that will come with time.

[Qrow and Raven]

Based on what you’re saying, rb obviously wouldn’t need to be in the raid but that doesn’t mean they weren’t.

I mean, remember that was back on Day 1, dont see any reason why the rb would be on the raid when literally both scum flipped have been limited shot and i dont think strongman is infinite shot anyway.

But scum can be on the raid for any reason, can’t they? Idk maybe?

~R

They can, but scum know each other's roles, so would they?

For fake towncred? Idk.

~R

[RealCheeks]

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

I just feel like they're mad today in a towny way but then I also thought Elsa was flipping town so take that as you will. Tonereading is generally how I sort and MB anger sounded self-righteous in a genuine way to me that I'm pretty confident they are also town.
~C

[Sakura Hana]

Based on what you’re saying, rb obviously wouldn’t need to be in the raid but that doesn’t mean they weren’t.

I mean, remember that was back on Day 1, dont see any reason why the rb would be on the raid when literally both scum flipped have been limited shot and i dont think strongman is infinite shot anyway.

But scum can be on the raid for any reason, can’t they? Idk maybe?

~R

They can, but scum know each other's roles, so would they?

For fake towncred? Idk.

~R

Oh look... the wildcard buzzword.
Take in mind Elsa was already in the raid AND the unknown strongman would ALSO the roleblocker be in the raid?

[Mandelbrot]

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

I just feel like they're mad today in a towny way but then I also thought Elsa was flipping town so take that as you will. Tonereading is generally how I sort and MB anger sounded self-righteous in a genuine way to me that I'm pretty confident they are also town.
~C

Eh.

A lot of people townread frustration and indignance like scum are supposed to be zen masters or someshit.

- House

[Qrow and Raven]

Based on what you’re saying, rb obviously wouldn’t need to be in the raid but that doesn’t mean they weren’t.

I mean, remember that was back on Day 1, dont see any reason why the rb would be on the raid when literally both scum flipped have been limited shot and i dont think strongman is infinite shot anyway.

But scum can be on the raid for any reason, can’t they? Idk maybe?

~R

They can, but scum know each other's roles, so would they?

For fake towncred? Idk.

~R

Oh look... the wildcard buzzword.
Take in mind Elsa was already in the raid AND the unknown strongman would ALSO the roleblocker be in the raid?

Yeah, you’re probably right.

~R

[Sakura Hana]

You're supposed to be analysing stuff, not saying "oh scum did this because towncred"
There's a possibility the roleblocker was in the raid? YES ABSOLUTELY. But what are the chances that it actually happened? PRETTY FRIGGING LOW

damn i feel like im talking like mastina now.

[Bell]

HAVENT READ BUT

join raid join raid join raid

*kicks Sircakez out of the raid*

VOTE: Elsa Jay

I guess.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

I guess.

Blink twice if you want me to free you.

Blinks once

Can we kill Elsa. All I have is gut.

You can’t discredit a scum gut read. It discredits itself.

Not following. I literally never give up as town. I doubt this game will be much different. Though my job has been very straining lately so I may collapse sometimes.

@Elsa, not really. I just sort of think you’re scum from pattern recognition.

That Big sister pattern some scum do. You know, when like they’re being friendly and giving advice and don’t seem very self-serving. But it just causes them to kind of blend while posting a bunch. That plus their joke to serious post ratio tickles my scumdar.

Their jokes seem to say “let me fit in, I’m one of you”

Ticking my scumsdar with the joke to serious post radar? Yes.

The big sister idea doesn’t fit very well. But I started with “vague gut feeling”
You’re asking me to rationalize something irrational.

But your jokes aren’t very good.

I don’t wanna talk about it because it doesn’t serve town to talk about it.

You have a point about going against everyone else. Except that’s exactly the opposite of self serving. So I don’t follow.

I’m joking. Of course I can be wrong for the wrong reasons.

Wait that doesn’t make any sense when I think about it.

1. What is Mirio doing?

2. I haven't a clue what Nancy posted or what about it was problematic.

3. I'm not sure how I feel about Elsa sounding like they're apologizing for missing an obligation (what is their obligation and why are they sorry for not meeting it?)

4. Meh on Dragon's entry. Usually they plant a vote down at least.

Lol, I've led one too many wagons on town Titus to even pretend I'm going to consider it without a cop guilty.

I'm just gunna solve at my own pace, tyvm.

I mean, Sircakez hasn't said or done anything this game on first look.
There's like, nothing to have an opinion on. I'm not even sure if it makes sense for him as town to at least put in a half-baked effort. Because I kind of just don't know what town sircakez looks like.
I totally forgot if I've even played with town sircakez.

I'm back.

VOTE: Titus cuz first wagon blues.

I also didn't think the minus 2 days on deadline thing for the raid would do much but I forgot how slow some games go so two days off would suck. Doesn't help with 5 V/LA people here either.

This vote is so bad, that I'm actually not sure scum would make it after getting the spotlight on them.

I'm wifoming myself, aren't I.

@Bell/Mandelbrot

Have either of you ever played with Elsa before?

Nope.

I don’t like sir cakez vote on Elsa but I suspect Elsa so, like,

I guess the real question about Elsa is if I buy their slow moving ate on the matter.

The point of the post is that I’ve made a decision to judge Elsa based on their AtE about them rolling scum a lot and sort of rolling over and admitting they were suspicious.

While also saying hey, Sircakez vote on Elsa for the reasons stated and their singular focus sucks.

Would you look at that, you knew and you broadened your horizons.

Though it sort of feels like busy work. I’ll give you time though. You just got here.

Sure Sircakez.

I asked the same question earlier romance and they voted me for it. So I feel ya.

I think I’m wrong on Elsa.

VOTE: Sircakez

You're welcome.

[Sakura Hana]

The only thing i havent taken the time to analyze because i've been lazy to reread, is reread day 1 and check all the entries and exits with the known scum/town in mind. Maybe someone else will do that for me, maybe we'll see something I missed, but i wish more people did some legwork on the information that's already available to use.

[Qrow and Raven]

You're supposed to be analysing stuff, not saying "oh scum did this because towncred"
There's a possibility the roleblocker was in the raid? YES ABSOLUTELY. But what are the chances that it actually happened? PRETTY FRIGGING LOW

damn i feel like im talking like mastina now.

I am analyzing. Like I said, you’re probably right.

~R

[RealCheeks]

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

I just feel like they're mad today in a towny way but then I also thought Elsa was flipping town so take that as you will. Tonereading is generally how I sort and MB anger sounded self-righteous in a genuine way to me that I'm pretty confident they are also town.
~C

Eh.

A lot of people townread frustration and indignance like scum are supposed to be zen masters or someshit.

- House

Toneshifts in scum tend to be more erratic and nonsensical compared to town.

Also this implies you either believe or know I'm town.
~C

[RealCheeks]

You're welcome.

Thanks!
~C

[Mandelbrot]

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

I just feel like they're mad today in a towny way but then I also thought Elsa was flipping town so take that as you will. Tonereading is generally how I sort and MB anger sounded self-righteous in a genuine way to me that I'm pretty confident they are also town.
~C

Eh.

A lot of people townread frustration and indignance like scum are supposed to be zen masters or someshit.

- House

Toneshifts in scum tend to be more erratic and nonsensical compared to town.

Also this implies you either believe or know I'm town.
~C

No. It implies I don't believe your "reason" is legitimate.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

I just feel like they're mad today in a towny way but then I also thought Elsa was flipping town so take that as you will. Tonereading is generally how I sort and MB anger sounded self-righteous in a genuine way to me that I'm pretty confident they are also town.
~C

Eh.

A lot of people townread frustration and indignance like scum are supposed to be zen masters or someshit.

- House

Toneshifts in scum tend to be more erratic and nonsensical compared to town.

Also this implies you either believe or know I'm town.
~C

No. It implies I don't believe your "reason" is legitimate.

- House

Believe or know you're town? That's a laugh.

You're still trying to keep the door open for my mislim.

Nah, fam.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Toneshifts in scum tend to be more erratic and nonsensical compared to town.

This is bullshit, too.

Bring neuro-atypical, a lot of my responses and emotions are erratic.

My anger was pretty much always townread, even as scum.

You're spouting nonsense.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

Toneshifts in scum tend to be more erratic and nonsensical compared to town.

This is bullshit, too.

Being* neuro-atypical, a lot of my responses and emotions are erratic.

My anger was pretty much always townread, even as scum.

You're spouting nonsense.

- House

EBWOP

[Mystic Bears]

dont end the day before I come to a conclusion

This is probably why the thread is now making animal sounds, talking about irrelevant roles and survivor.
~C

I didn't tell people to do that and theres lots to talk about thats nots animal sounds so thats not on me.

dont end the day before I come to a conclusion

This doesn't feel like a legitimate thought.

We've flipped 2 scum. It's not like we are on the verge of Elo, here.

I don't see any reason to be so antsy.

- House

None of your thoughts feel like legitimate thoughts to me either so I don't care what you think about that post.

[Mandelbrot]

I try to engage RC in good faith, considering the possibility that they might be town, and this is how they act?

Lol.

- House

[RealCheeks]

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

I just feel like they're mad today in a towny way but then I also thought Elsa was flipping town so take that as you will. Tonereading is generally how I sort and MB anger sounded self-righteous in a genuine way to me that I'm pretty confident they are also town.
~C

Eh.

A lot of people townread frustration and indignance like scum are supposed to be zen masters or someshit.

- House

Toneshifts in scum tend to be more erratic and nonsensical compared to town.

Also this implies you either believe or know I'm town.
~C

No. It implies I don't believe your "reason" is legitimate.

- House

No it doesn't because as scum I can't be fooled into incorrectly townreading scum anger...because I would know their alignment.
~C

[RealCheeks]

I didn't tell people to do that and theres lots to talk about thats nots animal sounds so thats not on me.

I'm not blaming you lol.
~C

[Mandelbrot]

No suspicion of Mystic Bears at all?

I just feel like they're mad today in a towny way but then I also thought Elsa was flipping town so take that as you will. Tonereading is generally how I sort and MB anger sounded self-righteous in a genuine way to me that I'm pretty confident they are also town.
~C

Eh.

A lot of people townread frustration and indignance like scum are supposed to be zen masters or someshit.

- House

Toneshifts in scum tend to be more erratic and nonsensical compared to town.

Also this implies you either believe or know I'm town.
~C

No. It implies I don't believe your "reason" is legitimate.

- House

No it doesn't because as scum I can't be fooled into incorrectly townreading scum anger...because I would know their alignment.
~C

You can easily throw out a shit excuse that doesn't actually mean anything to hang a read on.

- House

[Mystic Bears]

I try to engage RC in good faith, considering the possibility that they might be town, and this is how they act?

Lol.

- House

You haven't engaged anyone in good faith here. All you've done is poked around (by provoking different people) and tried to figure out where the soft town spot was so you could wagon it.

[RealCheeks]

I try to engage RC in good faith, considering the possibility that they might be town, and this is how they act?

Lol.

- House

This is a good example of tone not matching the situation. I say that your logic is flawed if you're scumreading me and you accuse me of acting in bad faith with sarcasm which is an overreaction. If I were scum, I can see that you aren't a likely lim today, I have enough braincells to gauge that I'm going down in the near future so why would I be confirming you as town with these interactions.


You could be easily irritated town but tbh there's no actual case on us being Scum, just that we're generally disgusting , whatever that means so this strong reaction can't be coming from a conviction that we're scum.
~C

[Mystic Bears]

Sakura's reads are delusional. I dont think anyone wants that post. I'll sleep on it.