Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm just preemptively explaining why I wasn't voting cakez at the end of day since unwnd replaced in and was asking about it.

No one was really voting Cakez at EoD, although it was brought up which is kinda why I think he hammered
The hammer is like, the one thing I could see as suspicious in his play, and I’m pretty sure he’s got a track record of making scummy moves as town. I think Betrayal mafia is one of the key moments where I got misled by him doing something like that.

[Ydrasse]

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

Early ISO you were giving minor jabs towards him 'his tone is stiff' 'being weird his votes' etc. with lead into a vote. Did they change and you decided to vote him anyways? What do you think of Peta playing hardball with you? I think Peta is someone is a opportunistic person and would use your own misgivings against you as scum. Do I think Peta is scum? Not sure but I'm not really gauging how you feel about everyone accusing you.

idk really

i think infinity's worse than peta but it could be peta? idk if he knows how to read me tho

i feel pretty meh towards the suspicion on me because i'm not doing a lot to reroute it so it's like why could i be mad at my accusers lol

probably scum pushing me atm

i had no real opinion on the wagons and voted gamma to make dueling wagons

- still hate teh gamma e1 vote
- i was under the impression u were strongly scumreading gamma, no? that's what you were telling me before

thats okay you can hate it if u want to

atm i dont remember what my reads even were d1 but im not sring gamma now, but i remember my vote was more for making the wagons even then it was a real care about who was elimmed

[Morning Tweet]

"Fateful Duel"

Event Rules

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Decision 3.0.4

unwnd [4]:

Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99, unwnd, Saber

Ydrasse [3]:

petapan, Ydrasse, Infinity 324

petapan [2]:

Taly, Toogeloo

Not Voting [5]:

ulyana, SirCakez, Gypyx, Dunnstral, skitter30

With 14 contestants remaining, it takes 8 votes to nominate a duelist.
The contestant with the second-most votes at majority or deadline will also be nominated. Plurality and seniority are in effect for both nominations.

The deadline for this decision is in:

(expired on 2021-10-19 17:07:18)

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[Dunnstral]

i think cakez being behind on the game is null given he was MLed for it in a mini normal, just doesn't have as much time to post

He is not getting scumread for falling behind on the game, just to be clear

[unwnd]

I'm very confident in my ability to distinguish it

Where is Cakez now? Granted he is catchup mode always but I feel like he'd poke his head in. Even speccing I barely have seen his content.

[ulyana]

I think it will be more clear whether we've received a benefit when we know more about the event.

so you'd default to gamma being exempt from duel to determine after if we've received benefit?

hm, i think this makes some sense, though if gamma is a scums that leaves only 3 for us to hit 2 within with other choices

[skitter30]

you were scumreading gamma
voted galron to prove a point and make a gamma counterwagon

the fact that you don't remember this is surface-level scummy but honestly probably more indicative of the fact that you're very out of it


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also why are the people pushing you scum?

[Toogeloo]

How do we get 2 wolves into the duel? The person with the majority goes in, then the second majority goes in. The odds of both being wolves is like near zero considering a third of us are wolves.

[unwnd]

idk really

i think infinity's worse than peta but it could be peta? idk if he knows how to read me tho

i feel pretty meh towards the suspicion on me because i'm not doing a lot to reroute it so it's like why could i be mad at my accusers lol

probably scum pushing me atm

You think Peta/Infinity have equity together or separately? I don't really feel like Peta is a scum who goes with his teammates often. Not to say that he denies them, rather he has his own methodology. I dunno if Peta/Inf both think pushing you on 'she's being meh' is the endgoal here

[skitter30]

@unwnd iirc the sort of thing you're pushing cakez for is what i was pushign him for in perpetual elo
not sure i find this super compelling

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm reading Cakez' ISO now and about 10-15 posts in I think he's scum

What are the rest of you doing lol

uh i strongly disagree with u

Elaborate? His early ISO just from skim had a ton of landmines. My readrate on Cakez is pretty decent as well. He spent a lot of time being in that mode of 'ugh need to catch up' where he makes idle comments while not really interfering with what's going on.

Why is the catch up thing a sticking point for you
I don’t exactly feel inclined to lean on that at this exact moment

[ulyana]

How do we get 2 wolves into the duel? The person with the majority goes in, then the second majority goes in. The odds of both being wolves is like near zero considering a third of us are wolves.

we discuss at length and refuse to put two players who may be individually scummy but unlikely to be partnered together

like does anyone thing unwnd and peta are both mafia here? so they should obviously not be chosen together

[Dunnstral]

I think it will be more clear whether we've received a benefit when we know more about the event.

so you'd default to gamma being exempt from duel to determine after if we've received benefit?

hm, i think this makes some sense, though if gamma is a scums that leaves only 3 for us to hit 2 within with other choices

Putting my thoughts on gamma aside:

If we wanted to eliminate him, we had a chance to do so. We didn't take it. It's nonsense to try to eliminate him again using a seperate game mechanic, it would mean we wasted power

[ulyana]

like does anyone thing unwnd and peta are both mafia here? so they should obviously not be chosen together

*think

[skitter30]

what no?
that logic doesn't make any sense @dunn

[unwnd]

It's not him needing to catch up, I think the biggest thing that I self-described is

but I think his usage of 'this sucks' and 'this doesn't black and white scenario picking is more fitting of his scum behavior where he can't fake a read progression.

[Dunnstral]

Spare

whatever I'm fine with this

Haven't read but can we spare and move on please

on reread this was scummy

[skitter30]

well at least we know that unwnd/galron doesn't make sense with sircakez now

ngl @unwnd this kinda looks like you trying to find a shiny new misflip to distract people from ur slot

[Infinity 324]

@dunn who is scum (besides cakez)

[unwnd]

You're free to believe whatever you want. The outcome is the same to me regardless. I'm merely trying to bring myself up to a relevant status and see what others see about my fleeting thoughts

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it will be more clear whether we've received a benefit when we know more about the event.

I don’t think the mod fool enough to make it something that would even be apparent with that info. Her emphasis seems to be on not retroactively modspewing the alignment of the person in the chair. I think you’re right it’ll be less nebulous when the event is known but not to the degree of certainty your post seems to convey.

[Dunnstral]

@dunn who is scum (besides cakez)

Probably all the lurkers except for me. No shame.

[unwnd]

If you don't feel particularly convinced about Cakez skitter you could weigh in on the other subjects on Gamma's wagon for me

[Toogeloo]

@dunn who is scum (besides cakez)

Probably all the lurkers except for me. No shame.

Seems legit. Town just cannibalizing itself?

[Gamma Emerald]

Elaborate? His early ISO just from skim had a ton of landmines. My readrate on Cakez is pretty decent as well. He spent a lot of time being in that mode of 'ugh need to catch up' where he makes idle comments while not really interfering with what's going on.

weird he always feels like this to me

I think he's becoming more self-aware, but there's a certain requirement I look for. Yes Cakez is always somewhat behind, but I think his usage of 'this sucks' and 'this doesn't black and white scenario picking is more fitting of his scum behavior where he can't fake a read progression.

I’m actually open to hearing about this tbh, can you give some example town/scum games that illustrate that sort of posting being present as scum/absent as town?