Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: scp 999

blatant pocketing

-Infinity

[Infinity Zero]

void is simply; nothing
VOTE: SCP 999

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

and i heard from a friend we need t o claim asetic if we are one! I realized i shouldnt have claimed the part that blocks everyone :c im sorry friends i am a little slime intoxicated and wasn't thinking straight :c

If you're ascetic, that's fine. But the way you claimed immunity my mind didn't go there. It went to here's someone who may be making an excuse for never dying even though it's top-posting and sounding a bit townie.

do you still think it's likely to be an excuse now that's it's framed this way? does it matter whether 999 is ascetic or bulletproof ascetic?

-Infinity

[Infinity Zero]

i'm confused, didn't you say the role felt like an excuse for still being alive? so wouldn't it have to be bulletproof in your mind for that to be the case?

i'm not totally sure whether that aspect of the role is a bulletproof or bulletproof ascetic, and i don't think it's a good idea to try to clarify that.

i got some townvibes from the openness wrt their role.

-Infinity

[Infinity Zero]

No, the specific role plus modifiers didn't enter into my mind. I was not thinking how it couldn't be killed, just that it said it couldn't be killed.

I don't understand why you appear to find that incredulous. And I don't know if you're insinuating that I'm trying to clarify bulletproof or bulletproof ascetic, when you're the one who brought it up. And no one said anything about bulletproof anything. Aren't there other roles/ways that it could be what it says it is? I don't think SCP said ascetic, I think it was Roden.

bulletproof isn't really a "specific role" to me, it just literally means you can't be killed at night. i believe that it's different in your head, but i was a bit surprised because you seemed to be thinking all along that 999 was bulletproof but changed your thoughts when the word "bulletproof" was mentioned".

not insinuating anything about you clarifying the role i just wanted to make it clear that it's best not to clarify.

scum are much less likely to be open about their role than town imo

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

you were also in that PYP game for like a day
also I'd like to cast my vote here because ngl this feels a little bit like when marcistar got caught in tarot upick
VOTE: strangematter

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

And joined late and played a little in an Open setup.

oh you mentioned it already lol

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

cop claim also kinda feels like newbscum

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

why the votes on us

ceph feels pretty towny

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

@ceph the galron questioning wasn't really mechanics, i was trying to sort galron's thought process cause it seemed contradictory but i think it's just nai

[Infinity Zero]

why the votes on us

ceph feels pretty towny

-infinity

Who is not towny?

ceph, roden, lld, and 999 are my only townish reads

[Infinity Zero]

Could someone please tell me why the hell we’re actually getting sussed? The most I’ve seen was Ceph saying that we’re “focused on mechanics” which at least on my part I don’t feel like I have been, and I think picking at me for talking about other games in relation to this one is the dumbest fucking thing ever for Cephrir who’s played me plenty enough to know that’s how I am. And everyone that isn’t Cephrir has done jack-fucking-all to rationalize SRing us.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Do I sound like I’m in the mood to hear you saying stupid EM bullshit?

-Gamma

PEdit: dear god I’m struggling to not tear into you because you’re saying the dumbest fucking shit imaginable.

[Infinity Zero]

This would be less infuriating if there were more content to engage with but literally the only thing I’ve really seen from people recently is that they think we’re scum for no fucking reason at all.

-Gamma

PEdit: I would if I could but it’s not easy when everyone is playing with 0% of their brain active.

[Infinity Zero]

Huh, that RVS ended very quickly for a lot of people or felt like it.

VOTE: strange matter

This is a scum tell

I want to hear what this tell is by the way.

Vote: Strange Matter

I basically voted SM for the same post you did because as I said, I thought the reaction was similar to something I remembered from scum in another game. So why do you have a problem with us?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Infinity Zero, Cephrir. Maybe Zyla. Maybe SirCakez.

Aside from Zyla, all of those voted SM. Do you seriously think scum all piled on a D1 flashyeet wagon?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: Ampharos
I see you’re around, how about you come out to play?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

UNVOTE:
it's not obvtown territory but Amy's posting was pretty decent imo
also, I will say I kinda wanna look at folks who're bitching and moaning about the quickhammer in an exaggerated way because that's probably where scum lie the most based on how I'd play

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

I wanted a flavor claim, was not actually going to hammer that. Be back later with takes

where are the takes, dwlee?

and dwlee - where are the *takes*?

waiting for them - you've only given 1 and you are very vague about it :3

come on!!! come play!

it's a muted reaction but I see the post quoted here from dwlee as in line with what I'd expect scum to be doing, it's basically carping about the elim with nothing constructive added in.
VOTE: dwlee

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

I think its a little off character for infinity to say "cop claim scummy" and not unvote just in case js :3

i didn't actually see gamma's vote tbh

[Infinity Zero]

which is if they have anyone as a scumread, not their townreads.

the answer is no, if it wasn't clear, you've played with me enough to know that that's normal for me

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

koba is town

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

i wanna talk to gamma more cause i feel like we're out of sync

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

I think Infinity saying that she and Gamma are out of sync isn't something a town hyrdra would be so concerned about as a scum hydra.

imo this is something i should be concerned about as both alignments so that we're not a pain to play with

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

fair enough, i try to be more transparent when i'm under pressure, also i have thoughts but i want to talk to gamma a bit more before i voice them

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: zyla

i hate that vote, especially since you're sheeping someone who is currently voting you. also i agree with koba that you're going under the radar

gamma is fine with this vote and is more skeptical of my ceph townlean

we both think galron's burst of posting was towny

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

ceph, would love it if you could briefly walk me through your mindset at the time - specifically what was going through your mind when they claimed cop

I am surprised this is so controversial tbh. I thought cop was likely to be a scare away claim, especially as I was not expecting a straight up cop to exist in what seems like a complex setup. I felt the way that they claimed it didn't seem like it was coming from a town mindset and some of their other posts (which multiple other players keep pretending didnt exist???) Were bad as well. I can get more detailed momentarily

this was mostly my thought process as well. also they felt overly ready to claim which i thought was scummy

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

Dwlee doesn't seem upset their hammer was taken.

no one said this

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Xfinity Zero I should scum read, but I have a null there. I think Infinity saying that she and Gamma are out of sync isn't something a town hyrdra would be so concerned about as a scum hydra. So I guess a lean scum atp. Their content seems to be a bit scattered, so it's hard to get a read off of that.

I feel like being more cohesive as a hydra unit is generally a good thing, dissonance can be towny or scummy in certain cases but in general I'd say hydra dissonance is anti-town because it's distracting. No one wants to have to parse through a slot that has wildly wavering takes. Last time me and infinity hydra'ed we also posted a lot of notes in the hydra discord, and while I don't believe our takes always meshed we basically knew where to give and where to take.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

why is galron as high as dunn?

[Infinity Zero]

dwlee feels like a scum-designated mislim

why do you say this? we're not even voting dwlee atm

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

dwlee feels like a scum-designated mislim

why do you say this? we're not even voting dwlee atm

-infinity

This is totally a slip

the fuck? i'm a hydra slot

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

would still like an answer to my question

-infinity

PEdit: if only people would deadsheep me

[Infinity Zero]

i literally said dwlee is a scum designated mislim with no mention of any names and you somehow felt the post was addressed to you IZ
guilty conscience

there have been 2 votes on dwlee this whole game come on dude

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

@cakez you still haven't answered why dwlee felt like a scum-designated mislim

@koba chill

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

ok and?

you're acting like it's a weird stretch to think that you're accusing me of being scum pushing dwlee. and i was one of two slots pushing dwlee. i don't get how this can be considered a slip at all. same thing @dunn

i also feel like gamma's vote on dwlee was pretty clearly not trying to elim them right away but whatever

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

koba take a break

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

In this game: people once again prove that being impartial is not what they actually want to see despite any and all statements to the contrary
As I see it 304 is basically innocuous if you see that it’s responding to Cakez’s posting as a while where he expresses suspicion on us and then suggests Dwlee as the designated mislim (despite no real evidence in favor imo), but a bunch of people are treating it like some smoking gun
And Dunn+LLD have still done jack-shit to explain why we’re scum to them
I’ll just say I understand the feelings of a certain someone whose name I prefer not to invoke right here and right now a whole lot better.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

Both of these pushes suck imo

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Dunn is town here
I'd sheep this logic to vote IZ

I agree Dunn is town but the logic is potentially shaky, I just can’t really tear into what I think I see as a flaw yet.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

dwlee feels like a scum-designated mislim

Yeah this is dumb as shit given both people who voted there have since moved their votes (or in my case had it moved for me)
Also think you’re kinda scrambling to discrediting us+Koba because our reads might actually be good, like how you tried to discredit me in Among Us.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

God fucking dammit
I never would have thought the day would come where infinity felt like a burden but it’s here and I feel like shit for thinking that way but I’ve had a very minimal role in how things have played out so far so I feel like this doesn’t fall on me
We’re I playing alone in this situation I’d probably do something rash and spiteful but I’m trying to not let my friend down here. Instead, I’m going to fight this elim with every fiber of my being so that even if I don’t succeed maybe after the flip you idiots will WAKE THE FUCK UP and push ACTUAL SCUM!!!!!!!!

Dunn, I know what you’re playing at here, and you’re having a very uncharitable view of my meta. I don’t know what “small thing” you think I overreacted to but I assure you you’re taking a bad sample, which is fucking ironic given how delusional I made myself that game! As for why I thought SM reacting like marcistar was voteworthy, maybe because I wanted to probe further and try to get more out of SM + people familiar with Tarot UPick? And instead it got speedlimmed, which while I’m not happy about it I also am with Ceph that SM wasn’t exactly doing herself any favors by being so abrasive (which is why I find his SR on us remarkably stupid).
As for me saying you hadn’t justified your vote on us, I’d only skimmed the posts in the thread since I last posted when I said that. I actually saw your case when I saw Cakez’s quoting it when I responded to that post.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

hey cakez - why am i scummy?

why was my vote scummy?

You remind me of leon kuwata

I guess probably no one but gamma will understand that post

While it’d probably be fun to gab about this I also kinda don’t wanna when your SR on me is in terrible faith? Like, you are clearly blind to the fact the same shit you seem to be pushing us for is the same shit you pulled.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

i literally said dwlee is a scum designated mislim with no mention of any names and you somehow felt the post was addressed to you IZ
guilty conscience

there have been 2 votes on dwlee this whole game come on dude

-infinity

I also think this post isn’t as problematic as Dunn claims
Again, think about what Cakez is fucking saying and how this functions as a response to it, you absolute shit-for-brains.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

gamma please stop posting right now you are crossing a line

I know, but I don’t know how else to get people to listen other than to basically rip them and their bad ideas apart until they start acting sensible. I’ve been on this site for 5 years at this point and I still have no idea how to actually get some goddamned respect!

but to give you an explaination why you might feel that way - cakez is just not acting in good faith because he randed scum.

Oh I’m sure of that myself. My problem is that I regard Cephrir as likely town but his push on us is extremely hypocritical. I just know it’s basically the biggest fucking mistake in the book rn to assume that just because Cephrir is making a dumbass push that he’s scum.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

The last time I saw Cephrir as scum he was basically suave as fuck, here he’s a blundering ass. I just don’t get that disparity as anything other than him just being town here.
This is primarily @ Dunnstral because he also has Cephrir in his lower reads

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

like its 2021 - why are we still equating certain actions to scum actions?

just call it a policy and don't pretend it is otherwise.

I agree with you that the “disagree = scummy” thing is stupid as fuck, and Cephrir’s response basically did nothing to actually address what you said about it

[Infinity Zero]

hey cakez - why am i scummy?

why was my vote scummy?

You remind me of leon kuwata

I guess probably no one but gamma will understand that post

While it’d probably be fun to gab about this I also kinda don’t wanna when your SR on me is in terrible faith? Like, you are clearly blind to the fact the same shit you seem to be pushing us for is the same shit you pulled.

-Gamma

you can't just call everything you don't like bad faith. it's not a good way to start a conversation when i literally know for a fact that it is not in bad faith.

i don't really have any idea what you're talking about though.

How the hell else am I supposed to take you calling your approach to SM acceptable and then slamming us when we’ve basically done the same damn shit in that department? I don’t think mechanics and meta talk are fair things to push us on when the game had barely started generating real content when SM got hammered and meta is basically the backbone of my playstyle, as much as I try to fight it.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

And like, I think on some level you know

exactly

what I’m getting at here and are refusing to accept the underlying truth that the fact I’m not pushing you as scum for things that I know that you just are prone to doing is a sign that I’m trying to actually make this count. I am town here and the sooner you accept that the sooner we can make real progress towards catching scum.
That last sentence goes to all of (Cephrir, Dunn, LLD).

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

town:
dunns
cephir
infinity
LLD(purely mech - should be discarded later on if nothing dayplay wise shows up)
ampharos
galron

the almost town timeout corner because i might be a little salty but also not that confident:
dwlee

honestly cannot feel this one out either way:
roden

le scum:
sircakez
zyla

unordered within tiers

a few slots i need to holistically examine to make sure but im not pressed when i literally cant die unless town really wants to discard logic so.

These reads are basically perfectly in line with how me and Infinity are both perceiving this game rn

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Spoiler: For SCP 999 only

Koba I’m gonna be dead-serious here: a big reason why I get mad at you for pushing me is because I know you have the social capital to actually convince people to follow that read, so my best course of action generally feels like it’s to tear into you for it and make you second-guess. You’re honestly kinda my idol rn because you have a way more charisma and respect from others than I do with way less exp on the site, and I also value your active contributions to catching rule-breakers on this site, when the best I could manage when I saw what was happening with Krazy and votato was to basically run away.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

While I have had a lot more rage in my scumgames recently, I’m also just getting a lot angrier in general I feel. I feel like the big catalyst is a feeling of being stuck, in so many ways. And what about my comments on the other things you have actually cited for reasons why we’re scummy?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

As I see it 304 is basically innocuous if you see that it’s responding to Cakez’s posting as a while where he expresses suspicion on us and then suggests Dwlee as the designated mislim (despite no real evidence in favor imo),

I thought that after I made my post and was thinking you would say that as well.

However, your hydra responded with the following instead:

i literally said dwlee is a scum designated mislim with no mention of any names and you somehow felt the post was addressed to you IZ
guilty conscience

there have been 2 votes on dwlee this whole game come on dude

-infinity

Which was a different, reachy angle, and I consider that to be scummy.

? all i was saying is that i made an inference about who cakez was accusing there and it was really not that much of a reach (because again, only 2 votes on dwlee)

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

cakez does feel like scum to me, he seems to be lacking a bit of the edge i'm used to from town!him

ceph's posts on this page feel towny, the emotion of not knowing whether to re-evaluate feels towny.

i want ampharos to post more

i feel like most of the game content has been focused on us so getting reads outside of that is tough. my strongest read is on koba but even that it's hard to explain, it's just like, read their posts. they're so free-flowing

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

why on amph and cakez?

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

I don't know if I've ever seen scum fake claim vigilante

dwlee please read challenge

What's that

fwiw i've seen scum fakeclaim vig before and it's not impossible that lld is scum, it's just not something we have to litigate rn and the most likely scenario is that she's just town

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

meh i'm not going to claim until e-1

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

meh i'm not going to claim until e-1

-infinity

Whats the point?? Ur never dying this game always unless a scum whos spewed you town flips - there's 0 drawback here. And if you and i get spewed town you die anyways bc im unkillable

i guess, weirder things have happened though

i think you should listen when someone is telling you you're unpleasant to interact with tbh

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

probably in case someone wants to investigate them?

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

tbh i liked 125, and didn't hate roden's reaction to the meta thing; i like a zyla vote better but i'll see what gamma says

@zyla actions are one thing but dunn is confirmed town unless he's doing a gambit with amy, do you think that's likely?

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

genuine but not overblown frustration about the d1 elim; good mechanics spec

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

Still scumread Infinity more, but my list is basically ordered.

Infinity over Koba over Zyra

unless I again have yet the read the specific post, you've yet to justify why you have us as such a strong SR.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

genuine but not overblown frustration about the d1 elim; good mechanics spec

-infinity

but this is not a good holistic reason to townread ?

thats not how effective scumhunting works - you should know that.

/shrug, it's enough for a townlean for me, i might re-evaluate later but i don't have a particular reason to suspect him atm

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

maybe i should be. i don't really know if there's that much to analyze from roden's posts though. also i wanted to talk to gamma. he said that he liked 498 but not much else

it's possible that roden just posted that big wall in order to get townreads but it didn't really feel that way and i thought it was relatively towny how he wanted to townread our slot because he related to gamma's frustration about being sred early on. i think towniest connect their reads to personal experiences and emotions a lot and scum might not think to fake that. that's about it

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

why?

it looks like you're throwing out suspicions and seeing what sticks

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Towniness isn't based on actions for me, galron and dunn both didn't have bad vibes

I think Infinity was more curious why you had Galron equivalent to someone who is town by night play presumably (not that I'm trying to object to the read, I'm just saying for the sake of discussion)

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Ok this is a random question for everyone : but who feels that Roden has flown really hard under the radar?

He maybe has but I don't think it's like in 235 where he felt suspicious for it, it just seems like maybe a consequence of the gamestate?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

ok like full honesty i want to switch to roden 100% but like im afraid of people then flipping it as me trying to "save a partner" [zyla] and then like end up mislimming today and then tomorrow is even worse and we snowball into a loss - so i'm being careful trying to make sure we can cooperate - but if people are willing to listen and be convinced, I'd like to shine light on Roden here right now.

I don't object to bringing Roden into the light but I think unless I actually sense something off from him I won't be down to push there for real

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

why?

it looks like you're throwing out suspicions and seeing what sticks

-Gamma

i've sussed 4 people - that's pretty reasonable for a mini theme with no scum dead...

You were kinda hopping between suspects with little attachment to them though

also ill give a hint: its a world where all of cakez, infinity, and LLD are town

Interesting.
I’m feeling a bit Lukewarm about LLD rn myself.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

@LLD

I am considering that Infinity Zero and SCP 999 could both be town. Where does that take us? (And is that dumb)

Dunno if it's dumb, but if they're both town Dwlee is probably scum.

Why is this? If it’s what I think, you’d actually need that scum flip first.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

And I don't think Zyla looks bad so I would need convincing, or there shoudl be reevaluation there

fair enough, i don't have a super strong scumread there, but she's posting and not being towny at all. i feel like i need more data on a lot of slots

what are your thoughts on cakez? @lld why is dwlee scum if us and koba are town

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

@cakez

where is your head at?
I'm kinda feeling less suspicious about you rn

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

@cakez

where is your head at?
I'm kinda feeling less suspicious about you rn

-Gamma

I'm thinking
Either this game is really easy and the scum are the people who are posting less and I don't know well
Or it's like Koba and you and this game is hard

who are these people you think can be scum that are posting less?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

what's weird about galron?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

That just looks like he doesn’t get your reads

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

But I would honestly like if not just Galron but several people would actually put more than just a passing effort into this game

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

@zyla why aren't you against elimming us? in your last readslist you had us as null and two people on our wagon, cakez and ceph, as scummy.

you also seemed to have a lot of null and lean reads, so i'm not sure why you want to end the day so early. what would you get out of it if we flipped town? how about scum?

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

a) that doesn't really sound like you DO anything, b) wasn't the consensus that we shouldn't be flavor claiming?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Your claim is vague and more related to your flavor than anything, which was agreed upon earlier as a bad thing to out because it lets scum know how valuable a containment breach on you might be

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Because this proves that I have direct access to an SCP, ergo I'm a researcher

How would it be a fakeclaim when I said what I can do and immediately proved it??

i'm confused about where you're getting the first sentence from?

also it could be a scum role. what i'm wondering is whether you can still be eliminated or it just hides the votes

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

UNVOTE:
That feels like an honest mistake actually.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

UNVOTE:

me and gamma don't think that's something scum would be likely to make up.

we'll talk and try to figure stuff out but please post y'all

-infinity

PEdit: lol

[Infinity Zero]

Who do you think is scum rn, Roden?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

LLD should never be the lim today

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

basically, zyla thought that only researchers (town) could interact with scps, and she interacted with an scp, so she thought she was conftown. i don't really think that's something scum would make up

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

interacted with an scp here meaning... used a night action? or something to do with flavor?

in this case it was a day action but yeah (look at the last vc)

i think zyla thought scum just had a nk and containment breach

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

sigh

obviously lld's claim isn't clearing but it's more than enough to leave the slot alone for 1 day

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

lld what's your read on ceph?

koba i really doubt this whole thing is an act to avoid producing content, try to interact with people more positively

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

@koba i thought that was a good post. i think i have too many trs at this point, so while i feel like roden and galron have had some towny posts, i'm not going to argue too much against them being in there. for me they're around the same level as ceph, who i don't think is as towny as you do but overall i agree with your list.

VOTE: cakez this is where i feel best about my vote atm, usually when he posts enough i can see the towny energy there but i really can't this game.

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

I'm having trouble where I feel disconnected from all of my games rn. Which is honestly better than becoming too attached but it still feels shitty

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

well I can at least safely say the disconnected feeling issue is resolved

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: Roden
I’m still sorta skeptical of this but he fell off the map hard and ngl I think that’s a scumtell for him

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Zyla’s vote is counted but not shown
Also I’m curious why Galron is picking me to sheep over you

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

yeah can you explain what you mean by sheeping and why you're sheeping us/cakez

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

Mix of both actually, honestly you’re closer to 235 than Radio Buzz.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

But you feel very little like you did in 2234.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

The problem is exactly that: I’m recognizing that all you’re putting out is noise. Your solving this game feels very weak-spirited, sure you sorted a good number of slots but it felt like your sorting wasn’t meaningful. Your activity doesn’t help but this is like when I prosecuted CheekyTeeky in LN 231, it’s all about

what you do with your time

that determines how you’re read, for me. Where’s your sense of

direction

?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

The problem is exactly that: I’m recognizing that all you’re putting out is noise. Your solving this game feels very weak-spirited, sure you sorted a good number of slots but it felt like your sorting wasn’t meaningful. Your activity doesn’t help but this is like when I prosecuted CheekyTeeky in LN 231, it’s all about

what you do with your time

that determines how you’re read, for me. Where’s your sense of

direction

?

-Gamma

What? I was pushing Ceph even after I unvoted, and I'm currently trying to gauge whether or not Cakez is short-sighted scum or just impulsive/bored town. You'd have a point if I was solo lurking in a hyper post game state, but I've given out more content, reads, and thought processes than half the players in the game, even with me being on vacation. You're just wrong here.

If you're saying I feel different from the recent games where I died first or got mis-elim'd first for five games in a row, then sorry, but I've already said I'm adjusting my playstyle due to how unfun those games all were.

I don't

feel

the effort from you regarding your ceph push or your investigation of cakez, though. I think saying you've solved more than half of the other players in the game have is a bit of a stretch.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

@koba i thought that was a good post. i think i have too many trs at this point, so while i feel like roden and galron have had some towny posts, i'm not going to argue too much against them being in there. for me they're around the same level as ceph, who i don't think is as towny as you do but overall i agree with your list.

VOTE: cakez this is where i feel best about my vote atm, usually when he posts enough i can see the towny energy there but i really can't this game.

-infinity

VOTE: Roden
I’m still sorta skeptical of this but he fell off the map hard and ngl I think that’s a scumtell for him

-Gamma

The fact your slot kept hovering around shading Cakez all game and quickly moved your vote off of him when you saw no one was joining you, only to then

immediately sheep your scum read and vote me after he said to flash wagon an absent player

, is also just shady as fuck. There's no progression between these two votes.

tbh i haven't really talked to gamma much about this and i still kind prefer cakez

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

This is such a nothing statement. How do you "feel" effort? I know I'm putting in effort, Ceph and Cakez however are barely even responding to what I say and you're literally town reading both of them over low effort posts. Why can't you just admit that the game state sucks and you're only voting me because I went absent during my vacation?

I'm not TRing Cakez, and like, you don't seem to be actively driving to get your scumreads eliminated. Your posting rn is merely response to pressure, it seems like.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

@roden to be clear, you're in my poe as well, but the progression you pointed out was more of a hydra thing than anything

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

You're also being extremely hypocritical. You literally threw a fit and screamed at everyone to stop scum reading you after your activity dropped and you accidentally scum slipped. Why does your response to pressure make you town and mine make me scummy?

Pretty sure this is patently untrue. I don't believe anyone's logic against us was that we were inactive. I don't believe the scum slip is as big a deal as some claim, it's more a case of people not being able to comprehend alternative perspective speech, but even then you're mixing up heads by directing that at me.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

do you have other suspects that are outside people's poes besides us? lld and dunn are towny to me based on their roles, and koba and zyla are quite towny based on their posting. with 4 townreads i feel good about, poe'ing seems like the best strategy to me.

i'll be honest, your recent pushback has felt pretty genuine to me, but gamma disagrees obviously.

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

@Roden I’ll admit we haven’t really had the greatest optics around you yeah. However, I kinda drifted from defending to pushing you fwiw

This may be a bit of a [[Leap of Faith]], but I think I’m willing to take the [[BIG SHOT!!!!]]
We are 2 parts Reimu Hakurei, 1 Part Sadou Maou.
Temperature is set to [[Rise/Fall]] based on receiver tuning. Airwaves have hopefully been cleaned up in advance.

What sort of town slips have you seen Zyla fake before? What do you think of Dwlee? I do think Amy has also been absent for quite a while but honestly she’s at the point of needing replacement

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: dwlee
dead game, let's see if an E-1 will fix that

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

UNVOTE: that doesn't really seem like a scum role

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

it seems like it could be possibly useful for town if they weren't really suspected and wanted to push a certain elim, scum would just never use it

gamma thinks it could be a scum role idk

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

Scum could definitely use it though? Makes it easier to push through mislims

it means a couple pocket scumreads can turn into an elim on you, the risk/reward seems incredibly bad

VOTE: dwlee ok compromising with gamma, and if others disagree with me maybe the mod did too

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

I already explained the Ceph read.

I didn't say Zyla's claim was fake.

you explained the ceph read a long time ago and were kind of hedging around it, can you go over it again?

you didn't say zyla's claim was fake, that's probably why cakez asked you about it. what are your thoughts on the claim

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

bruhhh was that really a slip

I don't think it entirely was but maybe it'll become clearer later

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

@T3 your predecessor claimed one-shot cop with an inno on Dunnstral, can you confirm?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

if that was a scumslip (i assume people mean roden's post was intended for the scum pt) it means roden is pretending to break a rule (talking about ongoing games), and i'm not going to assume that's the case

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

is this too high effort for town infinity?

what makes you think i don't effort as town? weren't you in that trust fall game i feel like i efforted there

to clarify what i was saying about roden: he broke a rule accidentally, it happens sometimes, but if he's scum and tried to disguise a scumslip as a rulebreak then that's shitty and that probably didn't happen

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

i think t3 is town

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

weren't you in that trust fall game i feel like i efforted there

i mean forest fire i think

[Infinity Zero]

it's a classic infinity tell

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

"classic" scumtells are worse than useless

-infinity

[Infinity Zero]

Interesting your mind jumps to self-hammering rather than claiming?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Well he’s not showing as online rn fwiw

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Nvm he is now

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

You’re aware he posted that it was meant for a dead thread right?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

I’ll let Galron respond before saying anything definite, but that reaction he had could have serious ramifications for the course of this game.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Okay, I think I buy the dead PT thing from Roden fully at least.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

God would scum have that?
Scum have scps too right?

Bruh
We

just

went over this with Zyla’s claim

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

Okay, I think I buy the dead PT thing from Roden fully at least.

-Gamma

all the posts your hydra makes defending roden feel very disingenuous and I'm not buying it. there is an underyling want to find an excuse to unvote when there were already other reasons to want to vote there - trying to twist what is at best NAI here into a towntell.

We’re not even voting Roden rn!

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

God would scum have that?
Scum have scps too right?

Bruh
We

just

went over this with Zyla’s claim

-Gamma

Remind me?

Find it yourself. I dislike people who demand to be spoonfed every piece of information presented to them.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

I don't know why you're so standoffish constantly all of a sudden

I’ve always had that dislike of having to constantly explain things, but wrt my general mood I just feel like I’ve been off-balance personally for a week or so

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

I don’t get how that entirely differs but okay
And on thinking about it’s not

perfectly

clear in what was said to Zyla, so here: everyone was required to submit picks pregame, before alignments were randomized. It wouldn’t make sense to snub scum their picks because there’s a chance they have real attachment to what they submitted. So scum likely have SCPs of their own. It made sense for Zyla to be confused since she’s new but you’ve played in UPicks before Cakez, so you should get how the design process works maybe.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

I tried to pick things that felt sufficiently “vague” because I have some

feelings

that SCPs kinda tie into. This next bit is gonna be some personal talk involving my plurality/DID.

I’m at the point where I’m willing to actually disclose the full names of alters since I’ve got names for basically all of them (B I’m still debating whether I want to use my

real name

for it, because while B feels the most “me” I also feel like it’s disrespectful to give my rl name to an alter like that, it feels preferential.
Anyway, my alter Z has the full name Zero, which wasn’t fully intended to work with the hydra name I set out with Infinity 324 (because well, the hydra was made before I was fully conscious to my plurality) but it’s thoroughly fitting since in the source material that made gave this hydra name idea unto me (the Terraria Mod “Ancients Awakened”) there is a creature known as Oblivion that resides in a “place” known as the Void. It has control of a number of machine-like things known as “Zero”, and one thing that is known about Oblivion/Zero is

it hates attempts to learn its nature

. It tends to become present in times where I’m under pressure to provide answers to a question, and has very little of the access to my brain that the rest of my alters seem to. As such SCP 055 would have been a very fitting pick and I’m upset I wasn’t aware of it when making pick submissions.

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

It’s a personal monologue, and by reacting the way you did, you have done your predecessor very wrong IMO. Repent or face punishment.

[Infinity Zero]

I’ll take that unvote as sufficient penance for now. But post-game there will be words.

[Infinity Zero]

I know this
Aren't alignments picked before roles are made though?

Maybe? Does that change the fact that some people would be very pissed off if they didn’t get a role based on any of their picks just because they randed scum?

-Gamma

[Infinity Zero]

VOTE: Roden

-Gamma