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Post Post #3500 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:19 am

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In post 3498, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3497, petapan wrote:(i should again emphasize, that unwnd slot is incredibly hard town at this point, never touch it)
why?
peta said this already, and I agree with it, his initial posting in the blue room was a marked improvement over how he was during the third event, which is a sign the scum flip improved his mood. I don't think the replace out had to do with this game, before anyone brings that up.
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Post Post #3501 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:23 am

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In post 3498, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3497, petapan wrote:(i should again emphasize, that unwnd slot is incredibly hard town at this point, never touch it)
why?
because in terms of solving once given enough space it was all genuine energized townwnd, he also started getting gunshy on his suspicion of you because saber was pushing you, little bit paranoid, little bit nuanced, was trying to put the pieces together


gammagooey also just came in hot out the gate and was working hard to catch up and put forth content when we'd settled into a weekend lull, his posting didn't feel like it was coming from an informed perspective of someone jumping into the game and he had a scumread on skitter when it was clear that wasn't happening from the posts in the blue room. his catchups have been good.



i also think the way Dunn did a dogcrap non-defense of him "unwnd is an innocent magical girl" looked like a scum whiteknight of a partner given that there wasn't any real weight of argument behind it, it was just a post made to distance himself from the wagon on unwnd at the time without actually derailing it. if it were a teammate a post like that is useless
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Post Post #3502 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:25 am

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In post 3499, petapan wrote:
In post 3496, Gamma Emerald wrote:...that's actually valid wrt the Saber thoughts. I basically stopped posting in the blue room after I realized what I had to do didn't involve any discussion there and I felt like interacting there would be a detractor to my aims.
The problem for me is that's also a great way to get someone miseliminated and then turn on the other wagon members if you're scum.
i think if i'm scum i don't start that pivot until after i get the mis-elim secured, might even stay off infinity anyway and try to be mindful of positioning myself i guess
that would make sense I think
it's not like your vote was needed anyway, ydrasse would have voted there if you hadn't

I really wish there was some way to truly eliminate neither player, because I'm getting cold feet on peta which means this is [Sophie's Choice] for me
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Post Post #3503 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:25 am

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i really ought to be leaving work now but before i do i'll leave my (obvious) vote here, as dwlee said we should be making a public record of people's stances before we start the vote

vote: hold
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Post Post #3504 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:26 am

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In post 3501, petapan wrote:
In post 3498, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 3497, petapan wrote:(i should again emphasize, that unwnd slot is incredibly hard town at this point, never touch it)
why?
because in terms of solving once given enough space it was all genuine energized townwnd, he also started getting gunshy on his suspicion of you because saber was pushing you, little bit paranoid, little bit nuanced, was trying to put the pieces together


gammagooey also just came in hot out the gate and was working hard to catch up and put forth content when we'd settled into a weekend lull, his posting didn't feel like it was coming from an informed perspective of someone jumping into the game and he had a scumread on skitter when it was clear that wasn't happening from the posts in the blue room. his catchups have been good.



i also think the way Dunn did a dogcrap non-defense of him "unwnd is an innocent magical girl" looked like a scum whiteknight of a partner given that there wasn't any real weight of argument behind it, it was just a post made to distance himself from the wagon on unwnd at the time without actually derailing it. if it were a teammate a post like that is useless
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Post Post #3505 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:27 am

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VOTE: hold
might as well make my stance official
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Post Post #3506 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:27 am

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In post 3504, Infinity 324 wrote:willing to trust this if you flip town
I'm saying the same things though, and you already TR me?
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Post Post #3507 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:28 am

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In post 3506, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3504, Infinity 324 wrote:willing to trust this if you flip town
I'm saying the same things though, and you already TR me?
i didn't see you bring up those points? might have missed a post
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Post Post #3508 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:29 am

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not exactly the same, mind, but I'm kinda just focusing on what makes the biggest impression on me. I was trying to help get a flip unwnd wanted during event 3, so I was keenly aware of how the scumflip affected him.
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Post Post #3509 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:32 am

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In post 3502, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3499, petapan wrote:
In post 3496, Gamma Emerald wrote:...that's actually valid wrt the Saber thoughts. I basically stopped posting in the blue room after I realized what I had to do didn't involve any discussion there and I felt like interacting there would be a detractor to my aims.
The problem for me is that's also a great way to get someone miseliminated and then turn on the other wagon members if you're scum.
i think if i'm scum i don't start that pivot until after i get the mis-elim secured, might even stay off infinity anyway and try to be mindful of positioning myself i guess
that would make sense I think
it's not like your vote was needed anyway, ydrasse would have voted there if you hadn't

I really wish there was some way to truly eliminate neither player, because I'm getting cold feet on peta which means this is [Sophie's Choice] for me
you can withhold your vote until we see if it's necessary, i'm aware you're emotionally invested in the infinity read
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Post Post #3510 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:33 am

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In post 3505, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: hold
might as well make my stance official
? wouldn't this be a vote for infinity for you
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Post Post #3511 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:34 am

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oh I thought hold meant hold my vote as in do not cast a vote for either
VOTE: pass
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Post Post #3512 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:36 am

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Post Post #3513 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:42 am

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My soul is crying after that PT
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Post Post #3514 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:42 am

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I want a 10 shot dayvig
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Post Post #3515 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:44 am

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VOTE: Shift
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I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #3516 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:44 am

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The good thing is that
Dwlee/I
pocketed each other.
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Post Post #3517 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:45 am

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Lol I wonder if it was my fault that the thread was kind of dysfunctional

But I also think toog's complaint about that is slightly scum-indicative
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Post Post #3518 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:45 am

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In post 3516, Taly wrote:The good thing is that
Dwlee/I
pocketed each other.
TRUE
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Post Post #3519 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:45 am

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VOTE: hold
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Post Post #3520 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:49 am

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Taly/Dwlee V Infinity/Skitter
is a gamestate plot line I never thought would come this game.
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Post Post #3521 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:50 am

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For the record,
Cakez/Ydra
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Post Post #3522 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:51 am

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i’m going to ate you until you regret that choice more than any within your life.......
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Post Post #3523 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:56 am

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In post 3522, Ydrasse wrote:i’m going to ate you until you regret that choice more than any within your life.......
But this is why I thought you were scum!

My assumption going into the PT was that
Toog
was town because I didn't trust that his wagon was heavily town led or influenced because it deflated
unwnd's
wagon and ignored my push for a
Cakez/Dunn
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Based on my read progressions, I figured
unwnd
slot was town and
Cakez
slot was likely a
Dunn
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And then proceeded to disagree with
Infinity/Skitter
over this take and the following ones from this idea throughout most of the PT time.

I felt that your aggression the
unwnd
1v1 was genuine but I couldn't help but think it was angled for your survival.
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Post Post #3524 (ISO) » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:58 am

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meh i thought he was scum at the time but then reconciled with it in our pt
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