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[Wisdom]

I should read the game but trying to catch up on 90+ existing pages is kinda overwhelming me.

Can you talk to us about why you said you wanted to vote me?

[Wisdom]

lol im looking forward to rolling scum against you

[Wisdom]

You mean like youre townreading dwlee?

[Wisdom]

I have another completed scum game from this year

[Wisdom]

I mean, its not an actual 1v1 since im townreading you

[Wisdom]

oooof idk what to do

all my townreads are just posting and posting and posting

Are you voting dwlee yet?

[Wisdom]

Lets hear some of your own opinions then

[Wisdom]

So you think chowchow is scum?

[Wisdom]

Ok so ignore Ralts and The Goat because they're both completely missing.

The next person is Gypyx. He's actually active elsewhere.

And he never pushed Woolax

I’m not a fan of the replace in so far but this is an extremely strange post to make if they are buddies with Gypyx.

~I

Agreed

[Wisdom]

VOTE: imagine

I can imagine a successful scumflip!

Did you read the exchange with Gypyx? Imaginality does not look like Gypyx's buddy

[Wisdom]

T3 Ive defended you so far but out of all the people I see reasons to townread you're the most fragile and youre not really doing anything

Help me out here because I feel like my read on you is changing

[Wisdom]

Valkyrie everyone talks about others in mafia games
Like, you are talking about chowchow. Does that mean you're distracting us from thinking you're scum?

[Wisdom]

memeing accounts tend to be greater > rand town.

I mean
When you make a memeing account for a game you have not received your role pm yet

[Wisdom]

I do think newbscum could be like that but it's hard for me to look past Skrew calling out Gypyx in twilight

[Wisdom]

mastina talk me through why KTT and Dwlee are that high

[Wisdom]

And yeah you're not efforting because Gamma is town and imaginality/Skrew/T3 have interactions with Gypyx that make them likely town

[Wisdom]

While I'd argue T3 not making it would, indeed, have been a scumclaim

what kind of backwards logic is this

Not making it would be not indicative of anything
People are not expected to flavor spec

[Wisdom]

NGL I think that the mod announcing this error is actually itself a worse mod error than the initial fuckup because by announcing this, it basically conftowns me.

Dont see how it conftowns you
Why cant you be scum with the same role and the same mod error

[Wisdom]

Imagine, I have to reach conditions to evolve. I can't just pick to.

I will likely evolve tonight. I have to if the conditions are met.

This looks like a scum fakeclaim to me.

Explain? Evolution conditions are confirmed to be a thing from Kyouko's flip

[Wisdom]

Nope
Also Cubone/Marowak are gen1 and absent from this game

[Wisdom]

Maybe their fakeclaim is a protective

I'm not sure how explicit I should be but if Dwlee is softclaiming what I think they are softclaiming then they might just actually be conftown from it.

Another thing I'll need explained if you want me to unvote them

[Wisdom]

Plus I think their role is likely to be town.

Scum. have. fakeclaims.

[Wisdom]

Oh ok, little experience with T3 so Ill trust you on that

[Wisdom]

I think I should read a T3 scumgame and see what he does with buddies

Maybe my reasons are bad after all

[Wisdom]

The method by which it was handled + the nature of the role being a role that is basically required to be town (because scum can basically get a second copy of their role if I was scum and scum targeted me) + the nature of my posts in the thread about it + lack of scum PT involvement + scum actions are usually coordinated and confirmed in a scum PT and thus mod errors in action resolutions are usually on town slots.

Also just remembered Gypyx's role is similar to yours and scum don't likely have both

[Wisdom]

T3 in Lemon Demon you were pretty interested in claims, crumbs and such

Here we have lots of those and you don't seem to care

[Wisdom]

this game i'm also pr (as i assume everyone is) but my role isn't as interesting

Didnt you say that we shouldn't lim you for your role?

[Wisdom]

My guess is imaginality VD and mastina but I may just be omgusing.

All three of those are town due to gypyx

[Wisdom]

Also Titus obvtowned Goat slot, so she shouldn’t be anywhere near your PoE. Titus is obvtown not only because of her posting but the very clear townie mindset behind her VCAs.

~I

Completely disagree
I was just considering voting Titus actually

[Wisdom]

Ok so ignore Ralts and The Goat because they're both completely missing. The next person is Gypyx. He's actually active elsewhere. And he never pushed Woolax

Odd here that SleepyKrew is pushing Gypyx while voting Woolax at EoD. His vote on Woolax was very resigned too.

This is the clear
Woolax is hammered at this point and im discussing woolax buddies and skrew points at gypyx

[Wisdom]

I don't like Gypyx and Ralts jumping on mastina's comment about the people who see TSQ v STD as TvT being more likely scum than not.

It seemed like deliberately reading the comment in the worst way.

Ralts raised it as a question whereas Gypyx continued to paint it as though mastina was calling herself scummy even after reading mastina's reply to Ralts. Which, like, I don't see why Gypyx bothers to post that as town, but as scum it is a chance to splash a bit of dirt on someone.

Well, look, got a personal theory that scum are quite more likely than town to admit they did the sussy, cuz like, obviously they

know

they aren't innocent, especially in cases where it's like "yeah doing that is bad, i know i did it but pls bear with me"

and on the question of posting it, i saw the first message, wrote it, then saw her developping on it, and even though that kinda puts it into perspetive as something widespread, still thought it was notable enuff to br pointed out

plus i took like 5 good minutes to get that gif link working so i wasn't gonna let it good to waste lmao

also imaginality if you could tell the difference between sharing reads and being a devilish scum drawing attention to town's scummy posts

Nvm Imaginality can join the town. I dont think these interactions are between buddies

[Wisdom]

^and those are the Imaginality ones

VOTE: t3

[Wisdom]

They are for me

[Wisdom]

T3 (6): SirCakez, Truth Innuendos Lies, PookyTheMagicalBear, Wisdom, imaginality, mastina

I like this composition
If T3's town it's prolly Pooky who's red
Not very likely though, T3 feels defeated

[Wisdom]

Also with Koba and Gamma who also are town also spiritually on the wagon

[Wisdom]

We are

[Wisdom]

rereading the wiki page it's probably not activated pgo

What wiki page is that
You cant really afford withholding stuff right now

[Wisdom]

can someone explain why TIL is town, because they havent receieved much pressure thus far and I wanna know what the deal is with that slot - i dont wanna hear meta arguments because nancy is good enough to break meta when needed.

just tinfoiling, but i wanna be thorough.

Sorry to disappoint you but
Meta

[Wisdom]

I is nancy

[Wisdom]

They have it in their sig

[Wisdom]

No reason to claim miller and take it back unwarranted
Its truthful

[Wisdom]

Critter town
T3 still scum

[Wisdom]

I dont think T3 town is so underwhelming while about to be lim'd
And i dont like the reliance to the hariyama claim, feels like its just a fakeclaim

[Wisdom]

i try :/
i just never obvtown

atp my lim isn't *ideal* and theoretically if i get hard innod i can be near bulletproof conftown after i evolve

Like this same argument could be made with much more fire, like "get off me idiots, Fb checks me and then I become bp conftown"

But instead we have a downy, defeatist attitude: "eh okay i could become bp conftown but its ok, lim me"

[Wisdom]

And from what I saw in Lemon Demon I expect the former
The latter just looks like scum who has lost two buddies, knows theyre losing, so theyre doing the bare minimum and claiming their fakeclaim

[Wisdom]

Kyo's last post is not townreading T3

She makes the same argument I made about Gypyx possibly tming t3 town and then says that t3 is likely scum for voting gamma over woolax

[Wisdom]

Yes and after that it says the other thing i just said

[Wisdom]

In any case shes not calling him town either and it shouldn't affect your t3 read

[Wisdom]

She didnt, she said its possible gypyx was tming
Thats an observation, not a read
I also said that yet im voting t3

[Wisdom]

Kyouko's role pm doesn't say what Marill and Azumarill will be so I don't think you're right

[Wisdom]

Nah

[Wisdom]

Links to games where you gave up similarly

[Wisdom]

In those games you wanted to be heard, leave a message behind hoping your flip will maybe make people listen to you
Where is that here

[Wisdom]

maybe
VOTE: titus

Titus = Goat

And you told Shea he was wrong about Goat

so why the vote now?

VOTE: pooky
Big brain

You never explained the shift on Goats/Titus slot and after Wisdom calls you out on that, you vote Pooky. Why?

~I

Nancy in regards to this, I told him to vote Ralts and he voted Titus because he thought Ralts is Titus
Then I called him out and he realized its Pooky whos Ralts

[Wisdom]

T3 ill be sad if youre town, second time i have to correct a wrong argument against you

[Wisdom]

Guys haven't read I have pretty strong reason to think Pooky is town so can we wagon somewhere else

[Wisdom]

Im that deepscum?

[Wisdom]

VOTE: dwlee

Back to this

[Wisdom]

dwlee/Kitty and who else
Titus maybe

[Wisdom]

Critter do you think scum have both gypyx's role and mastina's

[Wisdom]

And Gamma; shea was town, koba vote is a no

[Wisdom]

Maybe chowchow then
dwlee is one onwagon scum

[Wisdom]

I see no way FB should be dead if Koba is town

Maybe he was blocked
Maybe he protected someone else
Thats no reason to discard all shea/koba dayplay

[Wisdom]

They* whatever

[Wisdom]

Kyo did not say hes tpwn but i dont want to open that argument again
Even if she had said hes town dead town doesnt mean correct

[Wisdom]

cool, sheep nancy and me on dwlee

[Wisdom]

There were mason claims? I either missed them or thought they were troll

[Wisdom]

Yea critter that doesnt look like a serious claim to me

[Wisdom]

I dont townread either for that

[Wisdom]

So who else is scum then Nancy

[Wisdom]

So who else is scum then Nancy

Idk but Dwelee is.

Sure, find me two more since you disagree with titus

[Wisdom]

Mastina, rolestoppers can be scum. Especially in a game with a vig.

[Wisdom]

I was informed that one member of the scumteam is a gf

Did you say that before now?

If so Cakez and Pooky are not clear

[Wisdom]

AC. What does that stand for?

alignment cop

[Wisdom]

I was informed that one member of the scumteam is a gf

Did you say that before now?

If so Cakez and Pooky are not clear

Cakez is.

If Firebringer was redirected he’d know from the hood being with another player yeah? Whoever has the hood with Firebringer is clear.

Im talking about the gf, not possible redirection

[Wisdom]

Loyal bypasses godfather wisdom

Ok, just Pooky then

@cakez Is pooky still town given there is a gf?

[Wisdom]

Mastina, rolestoppers can be scum. Especially in a game with a vig.

Not one who can only block scum abilities

Uh that? I didn't get that.

Nothing in my role mentioned an inability to block scum abilities. It just says I stop the player from being visited, it doesn't say "from being visited by scum".

Cool so dwlee is a scum rolestopper
Can we lim now?

[Wisdom]

I still think Nancy’s claim is bullshit.

It isnt

[Wisdom]

Titus quit the bus driving bs please
dwlee is scum here

[Wisdom]

Nancy what's the flavor for your two abilities?

[Wisdom]

Can we not setup spec without knowing the entire setup
This is role madness

[Wisdom]

Nancy what's the flavor for your two abilities?

I don’t understand what you’re asking exactly.

My only favour is my Pokemon.

Your abilities are pokemon moves, no?
Like FB's neighborizer was Dragon Dance

[Wisdom]

I have only seen scummy behavior from her
1) Claimed a cop check that likely doesn’t exist
2) Shut down any attempts at communication and hunting I tried yesterday
3) Dominates the thread and doesn’t let anyone else speak

1 is you setup specing and the others are just playstyle
Nothing scummy

[Wisdom]

Nancy what's the flavor for your two abilities?

I don’t understand what you’re asking exactly.

My only favour is my Pokemon.

Your abilities are pokemon moves, no?
Like FB's neighborizer was Dragon Dance

I’m Absol if that helps.

It does but id like the moves too

[Wisdom]

Critter just drop it, nancy is town

[Wisdom]

Your time is coming Titus
Try to save dwlee with bs about bus drivers more

[Wisdom]

Nancy you wont get modkilled for naming your moves ffs

[Wisdom]

Yep youve never seen town me be grandstanding

[Wisdom]

Guys just stop fighting each other
Youre both town

[Wisdom]

Speaking of vigs, where is their kill
Guess dwlee successfully protected one of their buddies?

[Wisdom]

Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.

you won’t find out my Critter result until D5.

Gamma is right, these two dont go together. Either you checked him last night and you're getting it this night, or you're checking him this night and you're getting it on N4.

[Wisdom]

The following night is N3, so you'll know it on D4
Why did you say D5

[Wisdom]

You checked dwlee on N1, got it on N2 and claimed it on D3. One phase delay.
Therefore by checking Critter on N2, you get it on N3 and claim it on D4.
What am I missing

[Wisdom]

But dwlee took 1 night

[Wisdom]

ugh Im feeling a slight paranoia that you contradicted yourself there but I'll get through it

[Wisdom]

There is because like Gamma said you then talked about D7, as if your role didnt allow you to check each night (which is how I originally imagined your role worked too)
But apparently you are insisting now that you can check every night

[Wisdom]

Fine I'll accept she got it mixed up

[Wisdom]

I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it

[Wisdom]

ok
Back to liming dwlee
The only thing I want before that is Cakez to tell me if Pooky "inno" is still valid with a gf presence

[Wisdom]

My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.

Did it say "dwlee" in the message or just "your n1 target"?

[Wisdom]

I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it

I don’t know why you’re suddenly even doubting me. Do you remember the first run of Gameshow when I used the word “we” to refer to scum? Both you and RC accused me of scumslipping but it’s just my dyslexia. I was town in that.

Do you not remember this or do I need to find you the quote?

I went and checked because I had no recollection I played in a game called "gameshow" and that apparently was because it got rerolled in like 5 pages
But neither I nor RC was serious about your "scumslip" in that game

[Wisdom]

I think multiple scum are among Dwlee, Titus, and Milobird.

Over the next day I'm going to focus on trying to get a read on the following players cos I currently have no idea about them all and I think if there's scum not in the above three it's among these:

KTT, chowchow, WhemeStar

To varying degrees I lean town on everyone else.

This is a good pool
I remember I had Wheme as town but I dont remember why

[Wisdom]

Yea that was me recognising it's probably not a scumslip and that I've evolved from my old self who would blindly push it

[Wisdom]

My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.

Did it say "dwlee" in the message or just "your n1 target"?

N1 target but that was Dweele, so what’s your point?

Also I just asked this because I remembered a game where a gunsmith got a guilty on me by name, and left me no space to argue about redirection
So was just checking

[Wisdom]

How can dwlee flip gf if you got a guilty on them

[Wisdom]

Just because I don't see the scum motive for Dwlee to lie about only being able to target scum if they knew it wouldn't match what mastina got.

tbh that's a good point

[Wisdom]

Okay and your result? That I visited mastina N1 and didn't go anywhere last night or?

Why didnt you go anywhere last night again?

[Wisdom]

My question is why dwlee didnt act last night

[Wisdom]

Once

, during the night you may perform a dragon dance while targeting another player. This will open a Private Thread that you can communicate in.

Btw if Im understanding right, the "once" part means it's 1-shot, no?

[Wisdom]

Once at night you may bite another player, informing them they were bitten.

Then again the sample role pm says once too (without the comma, but still)
Probably just wording

[Wisdom]

What interaction was that?

[Wisdom]

Also what do you think about Imaginality's point

I dont understand why dwlee claimed the "I only stop scum actions" part while being confident mastina will back them up

[Wisdom]

The only explanation I can think of is that dwlee actually has that role and actually targeted mastina and was waiting for confirmation, not knowing that Gamma had also targeted her
But scum having a rolestopper that only stops scum actions? It's negative utility, unless they are like a joat and have more moves and that was just a 1-shot thing
I think Ill just go with that actually

[Wisdom]

@Wisdom- I’m interested in solely your Pokémon line, I don’t need to know anything more than the line. Who are you?

you dont need to know

[Wisdom]

Any night after n1 we can pick another player and we neighborize them and redirect actions done on them onto us

I had forgotten about this, maybe this is the redirecting action mod warned you about @titus

[Wisdom]

Youre not getting my flavor, vote me if you want to

[Wisdom]

Because flavor is enough for scum to speculate

Ive been scum in Pokemon games too

[Wisdom]

yeah that's what I thought
Do you also have a move for knowing there is a gf or is it separate?

[Wisdom]

Even so no reason to give them info

[Wisdom]

aww I theorized Detect for knowing about the gf

[Wisdom]

Yes, Absol

[Wisdom]

I think Ill compile a claims list because I keep forgetting half the claims

[Wisdom]

Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
-	-	-
Dwlee99	Swablu	Cotton Guard - Rolestopper that stops only scum actions	N1 rolestopped mastina
Milobird
Save The Dragons	Mareep
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird
WhemeStar
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor	N1 splashed KTT, N2 splashed Milobird?
chowchow
mastina		Move copier
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated Critter
Kitty Trauma Team	Remoraid	Neighborizing self redirector	???
PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez
DkKoba		Rolestopper	???
Critter

[Wisdom]

If I missed something update it

[Wisdom]

Titus should have targeted KTT and it should have redirected to me, but gamma targeted me.

KTT's claim is that they redirect the actions from their targets to themselves, not the opposite

[Wisdom]

You asked KTT to target you but where did you ask Titus to target you? I couldnt find it

[Wisdom]

Updated with Critter's claim and mastina's action

Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
-	-	-
Dwlee99	Swablu	Cotton Guard - Rolestopper that stops only scum actions	N1 rolestopped mastina
Milobird
Save The Dragons	Mareep
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird
WhemeStar
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor	N1 splashed KTT, N2 splashed Milobird
chowchow
mastina		Move copier	N1 copied a shot of Gamma's rolestopper
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated Critter
Kitty Trauma Team	Remoraid	Neighborizing self redirector	???
PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez
DkKoba		Rolestopper	???
Critter		1-shot move usage from the dead

[Wisdom]

How did you both use your action and evolve
Was your evolve passive?

[Wisdom]

Gamma Titus claimed that her splash became unblockable upon evolution

[Wisdom]

maybe KTT has it but is scum and wont conftown you (:

[Wisdom]

Sure lets wait for the mod to confirm then, as well as Koba and STD to post

[Wisdom]

How did you both use your action and evolve
Was your evolve passive?

Good morning, you scum fuck, you literal trash fire of a human.

I hope you woke up with a crick in your neck.

I literally said earlier that using our action causes us to evolve.

Vote me out and then die, scum.

-k

Must have missed it then

Who did you target?

[Wisdom]

SoG weird redirect evolve when want.

?

[Wisdom]

Not confirming fruit vendors has no scum equity you disingenuous pig.

Except she claimed friendly neighbor

[Wisdom]

@critter lemme guess, Mist and Absorb/Giga Drain?

[Wisdom]

kuribo youre completed desynced with the game, you dont even realize what Titus has claimed or who she targeted or that we have a fucking guilty

Dont expect me to pay you any attention

[Wisdom]

Astonish and Mega Drain were my other choices yeah

[Wisdom]

Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
-	-	-
Dwlee99	Swablu Altaria	Cotton Guard - 1-shot Rolestopper that stops only scum actions, Roost - Can replenish Cotton Guard shot	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 evolved
Milobird
Save The Dragons	Mareep
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird
WhemeStar
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor 1-shot unblockable friendly neighbor	N1 splashed KTT, D2 evolved, N2 ultra-splashed Milobird
chowchow
mastina		Move copier	N1 copied a shot of Gamma's rolestopper
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated Critter
Kitty Trauma Team	Remoraid Octillery	Neighborizing 2-way permanent redirector	N2 targeted Milobird and evolved
PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez
DkKoba		Rolestopper	???
Critter	Lotad Lombre	Mega Drain - 1-shot move usage from the dead	N1 evolved, N2 did nothing

Updates

[Wisdom]

For Remoraid I'm guessing Lock-on is the move that does that

[Wisdom]

Actually that's a Dustox

[Wisdom]

Im assuming its the latter, nancy?

And yeah looks like Cakez aint conftown

[Wisdom]

Can anyone parse chowchow's drawing

[Wisdom]

And yeah looks like Cakez aint conftown

And thus neither is Pooky
Welcome both back to my poe

[Wisdom]

cool so titus conftown

[Wisdom]

you and Titus conftown

why's Milo conftown again?

[Wisdom]

Actually, back to my question about Wisdom's pokemon type.

Youre not getting that as I told your orher head

[Wisdom]

cool so titus conftown

I think she’s town but technically no.

She claimed her role is unblockable.
A rolestop blocks all actions visiting the target.
Since she is unblockable then that just means her action worked.

Uhh Milo confirmed they got the clear
What am I missing

[Wisdom]

So who did you target koba

[Wisdom]

Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
-	-	-
Dwlee99	Swablu Altaria	Cotton Guard - 1-shot Rolestopper that stops only scum actions, Roost - Can replenish Cotton Guard shot	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 evolved
Milobird
Save The Dragons	Mareep
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird
WhemeStar
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor 1-shot unblockable friendly neighbor	N1 splashed KTT, D2 evolved, N2 ultra-splashed Milobird
chowchow
mastina		Move copier	N1 copied a shot of Gamma's rolestopper
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated Critter
Kitty Trauma Team	Remoraid Octillery	Neighborizing 2-way permanent redirector	N2 targeted Milobird and evolved
PookyTheMagicalBear
SirCakez
DkKoba		Rolestopper	???
Critter	Lotad Lombre	Mega Drain - 1-shot move usage from the dead	N1 evolved, N2 did nothing

Updates

@std tldr

[Wisdom]

So the only unresolved thing is Titus' splash to KTT on N1?
Maybe KTT is actually ascetic scum, it would pair well with redirecting actions onto them (essentially blocking them)

[Wisdom]

Though I dont know why KTT wouldn't just say they got it in that case so *shrug*

[Wisdom]

But they still didn't get it afterwards, right?

[Wisdom]

Or youre talking about today probably, yeah that was resolved, youre conftown

[Wisdom]

Also, we received a message that cleared a player.
Hope you're enjoying that tightening net scum.

-Bell

[Wisdom]

Im assuming its the latter, nancy?

And yeah looks like Cakez aint conftown

If we target gf, we would get a false inno.

~I

I was referring to the mod explaining delayed roles
Its the latter one they described, right?

[Wisdom]

Chow if you actually claimed the vig tell us who you targeted last night as well

[Wisdom]

Who else is scum is the question

KTT and ??

[Wisdom]

Patience until tomorrow kuribo and you'll have your wish

[Wisdom]

Nevermind Nancy another head answered it

[Wisdom]

(He wont)

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She already checked critter

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Yes I think he claimed dustox earlier
But what are the drawings saying

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Ascetic makes sense for middle stage Wurmple, sure

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And "def +++" is Harden, which is the move that causes Ascetic

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Yea it's the flip
So we flipped scum and he became Cascoon

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And the drawing that shows a crossed hospital is Im assuming a macho claim? But cant figure if hes claiming a role as well

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Oh it does? And I thought I had guessed who you are

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mew2 aint gen 2/3 sorry

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Didn’t wheme claim Legendary?

I don’t think legendaries can evolve and I’ve already said I evolved once

ugh
The only split evo with two evolutions I can think of requires a gen 4 Pokémon

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Mala/Pooky for remaining?

Updated role table in a bit

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I guess STD needs a re-evaluation too

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okay fair enough pooky is inno

?

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How did you go from maybe guilty to inno

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Ill just ignore wheme and continue thinking pooky is scum

As well as

VOTE: mala

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STD what is confusing you? Talk to us

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Gamma who did you target

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~chowchow

Confusion and Moonlight?

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I townread Wheme and Imaginality and probably chowchow as well and dont see why you townread Mala but otherwise your solving is correct, mastina

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Okay but who is scum
Other than the mech stuff what are your thoughts

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essentially:
anyone who visits my target(i can self target) will be roleblocked the next night!

Asking for clarification since gamma understood a different thing than i did

Anyone who visits your target when? The night you used it or the next?

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OK SO

no -

so how it works is:

I target someone n2-> anyone who targets that person that night will be then roleblocked on night 3

its a bit wonky in that sense but its like the rolestop triggers but it takes effect the next night

Oh okay, gamma understood it correctly

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Isn’t there like a huge list of priority murders scum needs and Koba is not on that list?

-Bell

No according to claim scum targeted Koba n2 with something else and thus got blocked n3

But mastina rolestopping koba n2 stops that so prolly not what happened

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bro i fucking hate rolestoppers or whatever this shit is

I feel like you got no result and you dont know if its because pooky did nothing or because you were blocked?

Clarify with the mods if they give "no result" on no action

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PERISH SONG:Both user and foe faint in 3 turns.
◓ Once, during any phase you may sing to another player, you and that player will both faint three day/night phases later.

Btw did you see this
One of us is destined to die, since dwlee could even use it during day

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Three day/night phases later, so assuming they used it during D3, that person is dying tonight

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Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
Dwlee99	Swablu Altaria	Cotton Guard - Rolestopper that stops only non-actions, Perish Song - Kills self and target in 3 phases
-	-	-	-
Milobird			N3 targeted Mala with something?
Save The Dragons	Mareep
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Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird, N3 ???
WhemeStar			N3 targeted Pooky with something?
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor 1-shot unblockable friendly neighbor	N1 splashed KTT, D2 evolved, N2 ultra-splashed Milobird
chowchow		Confusion and Moonlight?
mastina		Move copier	N1 copied a shot of Gamma's rolestopper, N2 rolestopped Koba
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated Critter (inno), N3 ???
Malakittens	Remoraid Octillery	Neighborizing 2-way permanent redirector	N2 targeted Milobird and evolved, N3 ???
PookyTheMagicalBear			Claims not to have a night action?
SirCakez
DkKoba		Delayed roleblocker on whoever targets their target	Evolved N1, self-targeted N2
Mathblade	Lotad Lombre Ludicolo	Mega Drain - 1-shot move copy from the dead 1-shot Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 evolved, N2 did nothing, N3 copied Firebringer's Dragon Dance and evolved

I put whatever is not a hard claim in italics
I also assumed Math evolved since he said he will

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The vig was absent this night as well. And dwlee couldnt have blocked it on N2 since it's not a non-action. So I'm assuming it was 1-shot

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Did you target anyone last night Mala?

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I dont see why youre pissed at me at all

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Let's talk it out Mala

These:

Spoiler: Posts

VOTE: pooky

Out of the active people thats the only one flipping scum

Rest of poe is {Titus, T3, Imaginality}

KTT and Dwlee I remember townreading but Id like them to post to refresh my reads there

Rest are town

End of "reread" (I basically searched for Gypyx and read all posts mentioning him)

New poe: {Pooky, Titus, Dwlee, KTT}

Theres no wagon on you lol

Oh guess there was a wagon on them

In that case

VOTE: kitty trauma team

Initially I thought KTT claiming could be town indicative because I thought the pressure was not sufficient

But since there was an actual wagon of four it makes sense for scum them to claim, after all we did lim Woolax while they were absent and KTT are likewise very inactive

are the only times I mentioned you before the last post triggered kuribo into ragetunneling me.

Is something unclear to you in my thought progression there? Or what is there to piss you off?

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Because you’re attitude ran off my partner.

Your attitude and continuing to scum read my slot

And complete lack of regard to the question of why I’m scum is annoying me

So if you’re gonna scum read my slot you can case me

Youve played with me and youve hydra'd with me. Im pretty sure that me scumreading you without casing you is not a surprise to you and should not piss you off or make you scumread me.

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Curiosity

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Oh I see. Yeah, you might have blocked the kill then, since Koba ultimately didnt

But lets see who Gamma rolestopped also

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You mean you also watch who you're jailkeeping?

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Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
Dwlee99	Swablu Altaria	Cotton Guard - Rolestopper that stops only non-actions, Perish Song - Kills self and target in 3 phases
-	-	-	-
Milobird			N3 targeted Mala with something?
Save The Dragons	Mareep
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Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird, N3 ???
WhemeStar		Jailkeeping Watcher	N3 jailed and watched Pooky
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor 1-shot unblockable friendly neighbor	N1 splashed KTT, D2 evolved, N2 ultra-splashed Milobird
chowchow		Confusion and Moonlight?
mastina		Move copier	N1 copied a shot of Gamma's rolestopper, N2 rolestopped Koba
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated Critter (inno), N3 ???
Malakittens	Remoraid Octillery	Neighborizing 2-way permanent redirector	N2 targeted Milobird and evolved, N3 ???
PookyTheMagicalBear			Claims not to have a night action?
SirCakez
DkKoba		Delayed roleblocker on whoever targets their target	Evolved N1, self-targeted N2
Mathblade	Lotad Lombre Ludicolo	Mega Drain - 1-shot move copy from the dead 1-shot Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 evolved, N2 did nothing, N3 copied Firebringer's Dragon Dance and evolved

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bleh keep forgetting to fill in Dustox

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Player	Flavor	Role	Actions
Woolax	Shuppet	Snatch - Vote Stealer and Roleblocker
ssbm_Kyouko	Azurill	Attract - Loved modifier
Gypyx	Hoothoot	Mirror Move - Uses a teammate's move
T3	Makuhita	Bulk up - Gives extra attacks when evolved
Firebringer	Rayquaza	Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 neighborized SirCakez
Dwlee99	Swablu Altaria	Cotton Guard - Rolestopper that stops only non-actions, Perish Song - Kills self and target in 3 phases
-	-	-	-
Milobird			N3 targeted Mala with something?
Save The Dragons	Mareep
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Gamma Emerald		Rolestopper that cannot target same player consecutively	N1 rolestopped mastina, N2 rolestopped Milobird, N3 ???
WhemeStar		Jailkeeping Watcher	N3 jailed and watched Pooky (nobody visited)
Titus		Splash - Fruit Vendor 1-shot unblockable friendly neighbor	N1 splashed KTT, D2 evolved, N2 ultra-splashed Milobird
chowchow	WurmpleCascoon Dustox	Ascetic Confusion and Moonlight?	Evolved into Cascoon N1 because of the scumflip, were ascetic as Cascoon, evolved into Dustox N2
mastina		Move copier	N1 copied a shot of Gamma's rolestopper, N2 rolestopped Koba
Truth Innuendos Lies	Absol	Future Sight - Delayed cop	N1 investigated dwlee (guilty), N2 investigated Critter (inno), N3 ???
Malakittens	Remoraid Octillery	Neighborizing 2-way permanent redirector	N2 targeted Milobird and evolved, N3 ???
PookyTheMagicalBear			Claims not to have a night action?
SirCakez			N1 targeted Pooky with something?
DkKoba		Sturdy - Bulletproof Delayed roleblocker on whoever targets their target	Evolved N1, self-targeted N2
Mathblade	Lotad Lombre Ludicolo	Mega Drain - 1-shot move copy from the dead 1-shot Dragon Dance - Loyal Neighborizer	N1 evolved, N2 did nothing, N3 copied Firebringer's Dragon Dance and evolved

Filled in more

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yep

Im waiting for Gamma but Im most likely voting Pooky

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My flavor guesses for claimed things, ignore if youre not a pokenerd;

mastina is either Sudowoodo with Mimic or Smeargle with Sketch;
Mala's thing is Lock-on
Koba is Forretress and the delayed roleblocker is Spikes
Titus is Milotic
Gamma is Sableye with Torment? (this one's prolly wrong)
Wheme's action is Mean Look? I'll guess Dusclops if so

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Oh cool add Dwlee99 to Gypyx and Ralts on the pile of "scum shiftily sniffing for stuff to stir up so as to subtly scatter some sneaky suspicion on seemingly stand-up citizens"

reminder that Imaginity caught 'em all (: