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They’re scum.

They're not.

Dwlee is a rolestopper of some form who targeted me N1 because I got a rolestopper N1 and Dwlee basically counterclaimed DKKoba yesterday and I was able to put 2 + 2 together and realize that Dwlee targeted me N1 as a rolestopper and was suspicious of DKKoba claiming the

exact

role, of rolestopper.

However, in spite of me knowing Dwlee was a rolestopper and DKKoba claimed rolestopper, I came to the same conclusion Dwlee did: that Dwlee is town and a real rolestopper but gated by being pre-evolution, and DKKoba is town and a full rolestopper by having evolved.

I have a hard guilty on them. They are confirmed to be a member of Team Rocket.

~I

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VOTE: TIL

I checked you N1 and got the results today and you are confirmed to be a member of Team Rocket.

~I

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TIL if you have a result on me claim it so I can at least make sure you go one for one with me

I have a hard guilty on you. You are confirmed to be a member of team Rocket.

~I

I am going to ask again. What does psychic do?

For all practical purposes, I’m like an AC. That’s why I was informed that one member of the scumteam is a gf, so guilties are accurate but until gf is flipped, I can only get conditional innos.

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Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.

I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.

~I

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Hate to derail a guilty but there is a way both are town, although unlikely.

When I evolved, my new rolecard told me that my ability could not be stopped but it may be redirected.

So you’re saying I was redirected? But no one knew I was anything but informed, so why would I be redirected?

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Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.

I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.

~I

So EM Lazy Cop, okay
How would Titus have an explanation for that?

I don’t buy it because why would I be redirected? All I claimed was informed about gf.

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I was informed that one member of the scumteam is a gf

Did you say that before now?

If so Cakez and Pooky are not clear

Yes, I said it D1 and D2.

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Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.

I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.

~I

AC. What does that stand for?

alignment cop because of my result. I’m obviously not a tracker/watcher and I’m not ungated.

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Hate to derail a guilty but there is a way both are town, although unlikely.

When I evolved, my new rolecard told me that my ability could not be stopped but it may be redirected.

So you’re saying I was redirected? But no one knew I was anything but informed, so why would I be redirected?

Bus Driver possibly

Why? I never claimed my target?

Are you saying you had an action on Dwelee N1 because otherwise I don’t see how my result is wrong.

~I

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Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.

I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.

~I

So EM Lazy Cop, okay
How would Titus have an explanation for that?

I don’t buy it because why would I be redirected? All I claimed was informed about gf.

Bus Driver swaps targets not actors.

Let's say I target Cakez.
A bus driver swaps Cakez and Critter.

I really target Critter.

I know what a bus dtiver does but no one knew I had that ability and no one could have known I would target Dwelee, so unless you’re going to argue framer, I don’t see how my results are wrong.

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I still think Nancy’s claim is bullshit.

No but your reading comprehension is.

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Nancy I am serious answer me now. Exactly what does it do. Paraphrased.

I already explained it. I check a player and I get the results the following night. I checked Dwelee N1 and I got a message today that my target was a member of Team Rocket.

~I

So EM Lazy Cop, okay
How would Titus have an explanation for that?

I don’t buy it because why would I be redirected? All I claimed was informed about gf.

Bus Driver swaps targets not actors.

Let's say I target Cakez.
A bus driver swaps Cakez and Critter.

I really target Critter.

I know what a bus dtiver does but no one knew I had that ability and no one could have known I would target Dwelee, so unless you’re going to argue framer, I don’t see how my results are wrong.

I think you got a guilty, I just doubt it's on Dwlee.

No one knew I could cop check and no one knew I would target Dwele.

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I still think Nancy’s claim is bullshit.

It isnt

You’ll see why later. I want none of this. Elim who you want I am going to bed.
Nancy’s claim is bullshit.

No you’re thinking is. How seriously dense are you? I have never faked a guilty in my entire time playing mafia so you can buzz off.

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Nancy what's the flavor for your two abilities?

I don’t understand what you’re asking exactly.

My only favour is my Pokemon.

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VOTE: TIL

Look I have never fucking faked a goddamned fucking guilty ever, so you can just look stupid when they flip scum.

Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.

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Nancy what's the flavor for your two abilities?

I don’t understand what you’re asking exactly.

My only favour is my Pokemon.

Your abilities are pokemon moves, no?
Like FB's neighborizer was Dragon Dance

I’m Absol if that helps.

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So I am seriously going to be now. I think Nancy is scum.

Y’all are free to do as you want but I do not think Nancy is town and I need someone to explain like I am 5 when she is

I have only seen scummy behavior from her
1) Claimed a cop check that likely doesn’t exist
2) Shut down any attempts at communication and hunting I tried yesterday
3) Dominates the thread and doesn’t let anyone else speak

I legit do not get the townreads.

I have never faked a guilty ever. What part of you can’t fucking read?

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VOTE: TIL

Look I have never fucking faked a goddamned fucking guilty ever, so you can just look stupid when they flip scum.

Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.

Cool then if you are town we have cop chain a palooza but I doubt it

Idk who you are but if you’re actually town here, I’d prefer you don’t play in my games.

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Nancy what's the flavor for your two abilities?

I don’t understand what you’re asking exactly.

My only favour is my Pokemon.

Your abilities are pokemon moves, no?
Like FB's neighborizer was Dragon Dance

I’m Absol if that helps.

I’m checking with the mod whether you can elaborate but I have an idea as to the move that goes with your delayed cop

Yeah, I don’t want to get modkilled. My role is obviously not as strong as FB’s because it’s delayed which is why I didn’t get a result until today and you won’t find out my Critter result until D5.

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VOTE: TIL

Look I have never fucking faked a goddamned fucking guilty ever, so you can just look stupid when they flip scum.

Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.

Cool then if you are town we have cop chain a palooza but I doubt it

Idk who you are but if you’re actually town here, I’d prefer you don’t play in my games.

This feels a little harsh :/

I’m not okay with being accused of lying about something that I have a history to back it up. Not just here but on MU as well, never ever faked a guilty.

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Faking a guilty is just something you don’t fucking do if you care for your reputation as a player?

Why? It’s a brilliant gambit. Going away now but like this day is just levels of bad imho.

So I’ve been playing mafia since about 2017 but I chose THIS game to fake a guilty?

Wisdom, I think Critter could be scum, he isn’t trying to parse me and he tied to shitpush me yesterday. No town should be sr me here.

~I

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Why? It’s a brilliant gambit. Going away now but like this day is just levels of bad imho.

Hi.

Faking a guilty usually requires a 1 shot claim. Otherwise, the player must keep taking.

It just doesn't add up.

Sure it does. Nancy’s post rate is insane. Then eventually when everyone is clear “god father”. I am going to bed please let me. I think it’s antitown to continue this when I am barely awake

I really hope you’re scum and not this godawful at this game.

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Why? It’s a brilliant gambit. Going away now but like this day is just levels of bad imho.

Hi.

Faking a guilty usually requires a 1 shot claim. Otherwise, the player must keep taking.

It just doesn't add up.

Sure it does. Nancy’s post rate is insane. Then eventually when everyone is clear “god father”. I am going to bed please let me. I think it’s antitown to continue this when I am barely awake

Because there actually fucking is one in this setup, you dolt.

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TIL,

Let Wisdom and maybe Critter come after me. Just cool off.

Trust me, we'll at least get something.

I have no interest in going after anyone besides Nancy which won’t happen so it’s a protest vote.
Then I can get my cop check tonight then check someone
Probably be dead by D5 killed on N4 so Nancy says I am town.

That’s probably how this works.
I just figure it’s best I scream it before I die.

I won’t be accepting your apology post-game.

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Because there actually fucking is one in this setup, you dolt.

Not helpful Nancy.

Alright sorry but it’s actually insulting if he’s town doing this.

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TIL,

Let Wisdom and maybe Critter come after me. Just cool off.

Trust me, we'll at least get something.

I have no interest in going after anyone besides Nancy which won’t happen so it’s a protest vote.
Then I can get my cop check tonight then check someone
Probably be dead by D5 killed on N4 so Nancy says I am town.

That’s probably how this works.
I just figure it’s best I scream it before I die.

I won’t be accepting your apology post-game.

Not sure what I would need to apologize for anyway. I think you’re scum. That doesn’t require an apology. Could I be wrong? Yes. But I don’t think there’s three different cop checks in a game.

Yes you are wrong. I’m both delayed and gated, which means I only have one more left. Are you happy now that your rolefishing paid off? I really fucking hope so. I have 3 checks in total and I’m sure I will be dead before I ever get results of the third.

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And if I am wrong and you’re town, I bought you an additional check. Either way we win. So let me idiot.

How? You gave me an extra shot? But I think it’s extremely unlikely I get to use it. I either get rb’d or I die.

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Guys just stop fighting each other
Youre both town

First sensible thing you have said in awhile.

Right now, the best we are getting from Critter is agree to disagree and Nancy devaluing Critter's opinions. We have to accept that though.

Not like anyone cared when y’all rushed through the T3 elim anyway so nothing new there. Wake me when it’s night time and dictate who we’re voting. Used to it. Wake me when it’s N3.

I never checked T3.

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And if I am wrong and you’re town, I bought you an additional check. Either way we win. So let me idiot.

How? You gave me an extra shot? But I think it’s extremely unlikely I get to use it. I either get rb’d or I die.

I am saying I get killed.

Are you claiming bg?

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And if I am wrong and you’re town, I bought you an additional check. Either way we win. So let me idiot.

How? You gave me an extra shot? But I think it’s extremely unlikely I get to use it. I either get rb’d or I die.

I am saying I get killed.

Are you claiming bg?

We’re both cops, my one shot from the grave. I get shot you get shot. You’ll be protected/rolestopped as everyone trusts you.
I die.
You get protected again. You get off a shot.

I’m not a vig, I can’t shoot anyone.

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Titus, I hope you don’t tell us to let the thread breathe. It’s kind’ve pinging me a bit that you’re trying to referee us because that’s what you did in Boon BTDT.

Anyway, I think Critter is town now which means that my result can only be a conditional inno, so maybe I live to D6 because I’m probably no threat to scum until D7, unless of course we get lucky and lim the gf, then I can get real innos.

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Faking a guilty is just something you don’t fucking do if you care for your reputation as a player?

Why? It’s a brilliant gambit. Going away now but like this day is just levels of bad imho.

As scum ig, but for me Nancy is irrevocably town, so you’re accusing a town player of faking a guilty when that player is one who looks to be saying “my code of ethical play would never include pulling a stunt like faking a guilty as town”.

I haven’t faked it as scum either but yeah I don’t have a lot of respect for that. It’s just dumb because no one believes you.

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Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.

you won’t find out my Critter result until D5.

Gamma is right, these two dont go together. Either you checked him last night and you're getting it this night, or you're checking him this night and you're getting it on N4.

I’m delayed. I checked Dwelee N1 and got the result today. I will not get any result until the following night or I would have gotten that guilty yesterday.

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Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.

you won’t find out my Critter result until D5.

Gamma is right, these two dont go together. Either you checked him last night and you're getting it this night, or you're checking him this night and you're getting it on N4.

Yes I get it N4 but can’t claim it until D5. I obviously got Dwelee result N2 - at the end of the night.

I get results the following night.

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The following night is N3, so you'll know it on D4
Why did you say D5

I didn’t get my Dweele result until just before D3, so I don’t understand what you’re asking me.

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Oh I checked you last night. You had better hope I don’t die tonight.

you won’t find out my Critter result until D5.

Gamma is right, these two dont go together. Either you checked him last night and you're getting it this night, or you're checking him this night and you're getting it on N4.

Yes I get it N4 but can’t claim it until D5. I obviously got Dwelee result N2 - at the end of the night.

I get results the following night.

But you’ll get it N3?

Check Gamma N1, Result N2, claim D3
Add one to all those
Check me N2, result N3, say I am town D4.

Oh right, I’m dyslexic but yeah that’s probably correct.

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She also says her next result will be D7 so it sounds like D5 was right
So either she queues actions now and gets them throughout the game or each check takes 2 nights and she can’t queue actions

I get results the following night or I would have had them yesterday.

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ugh Im feeling a slight paranoia that you contradicted yourself there but I'll get through it

No I didn’t, I just mixed up the days. I get results the following night. There’s no contradiction.

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Assuming your claim is true (please I am really trying here)
You should get my inno tonight
And player X the night and their alignment the night after that.
So every day you should open with results.

I appreciate that. I am not ungated. I have only one shot left but you say you’re giving a 4th but I’m probably dead before I can use it, that or I’m rb’d. Unless I’m rolestopped is the only way that hapoens.

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There is because like Gamma said you then talked about D7, as if your role didnt allow you to check each night (which is how I originally imagined your role worked too)
But apparently you are insisting now that you can check every night

I can check 3 times on any night but don’t get results until the following night. I think Critter explained it well.

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I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it

I was recently scum and I never faked any guilties. I have never faked a guilty. My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.

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I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it

I don’t know why you’re suddenly even doubting me. Do you remember the first run of Gameshow when I used the word “we” to refer to scum? Both you and RC accused me of scumslipping but it’s just my dyslexia. I was town in that.

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My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.

Did it say "dwlee" in the message or just "your n1 target"?

N1 target but that was Dweele, so what’s your point?

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I mean dwlee flip will enlighten us about Nancy anyway so I dont need to worry about it

I don’t know why you’re suddenly even doubting me. Do you remember the first run of Gameshow when I used the word “we” to refer to scum? Both you and RC accused me of scumslipping but it’s just my dyslexia. I was town in that.

Do you not remember this or do I need to find you the quote?

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Subject: Gameshow Mafia ~Rerolling~

scum had minimal info in selecting it, which was the goal

Yes but

we

did have some

in my old days id probably call this a scumslip

Well I looked up the quote anyway.

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Well please wait to hear from Milobird before any action.

On that note I want DKKoba posting today, too; we shouldn't end the day before they've chimed in here.

What about meee? You forgot meee.


On the bus driver discussion, this misses the point:

No one knew I could cop check and no one knew I would target Dwlee.

If there is a bus driver who targeted your target they could have done so for any number of reasons.

That said, I agree with mastina:

Spoiler: mastina

VOTE: Dwlee99

(For the record: I'm not

sure

Dwlee is scum here, obviously, but between Gamma claiming that the rolestop I got N1 is his, not Dwlee's, Dwlee claiming a rolestop variant that I did not get, and the guilty claim, I genuinely believe that just on policy, we need to eliminate Dwlee. Dwlee's not lockscum but for Dwlee to be town requires a series of events that are incredibly unfortunate and unlikely. Two rolestoppers both in the game with different modifiers, targeting me, on top of a third player evolving into a rolestopper, on top of whatever would cause a wrong result from the investigation on Dwlee. It's not impossible and if Dwlee flips town we'll know that it did in fact happen in spite of how incredibly improbable they were, but by following Occam's Razor, the simplest explanation is Dwlee as scum and anything other than Dwlee-scum is less simple.)

The combination of Dwlee targeting mastina after another rolestopper did the same, plus someone bussing Dwlee so TIL's result was wrong, doesn't seem likely.
I don't know if I'd go as far as to say 'incredibly improbable'. For one thing, with multiple investigative roles it doesn't seem a stretch to imagine there being a bus driver in this game and I remember Dwlee was under some suspicion end of D1 so if Dwlee is town it wouldn't have been a bad idea for scum to bus and hope to frame Dwlee. I just don't think that's

as likely

as Dwlee being scum.

I am kinda interested in hearing the clarification mastina sought about whether she'd get the full power with all conditions. Just because I don't see the scum motive for Dwlee to lie about only being able to target scum if they knew it wouldn't match what mastina got.

But TIL's result is enough to justify us limming Dwlee here even without that clarification, I think.

VOTE: Dwlee99

On Critter/TIL:

Faking a gated investigative role in this game, in general, doesn't seem as risky/foolish as it would be in most games. Perhaps especially as it seems like there are multiple gated investigative roles and multiple blocking type roles.
(a guessing game who's the lying nerfed cop among say four variously nerfed investigative roles is less risky than who's the lying cop among two normal cops).

That said, while I intensely dislike their aggro arrogant play style I don't think TIL is lying in this situation. 1 for 1 seems a bad trade for scum and it is 1 for 1 here because if Dwlee flips town I don't think the hypothetical bus driver theories would be enough to save TIL from being limmed tomorrow.

I think multiple scum are among Dwlee, Titus, and Milobird.

Over the next day I'm going to focus on trying to get a read on the following players cos I currently have no idea about them all and I think if there's scum not in the above three it's among these:

KTT, chowchow, WhemeStar

To varying degrees I lean town on everyone else.

Yeah, I think I lost my Titus tr when she tried to manage me and Critter, which would autospew you town, if she flips scum.

I don’t understand your Milo read however. I was suss on them D1 but I liked them yesterday.

~I

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My message told me my N1 target Dweelee, is a member of team Rocket , so unless there’s something unaccounted for in the setup to explain it or mod error, they should flip scum.

Did it say "dwlee" in the message or just "your n1 target"?

N1 target but that was Dweele, so what’s your point?

Also I just asked this because I remembered a game where a gunsmith got a guilty on me by name, and left me no space to argue about redirection
So was just checking

That’s a really good take. Yeah N1 target is clearer. In Labrynth I was redirected but I was a loud jk in that so obviously different.

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Let’s hope Dwelee flips gf, then I can locktown Critter.

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How can dwlee flip gf if you got a guilty on them

Yeah you’re right he can’t. I would have gotten a false inno in that case. So, then it’s only conditional until we lim gf.

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How can dwlee flip gf if you got a guilty on them

Yeah you’re right he can’t. I would have gotten a false inno in that case. So, then it’s only conditional until we lim gf.

They. Until gf is flipped I get hard guilties and only conditional innos.

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I was told your N1 target is aligned with Team Rocket and that of course was Dwelee. I think I’ve played enough games with them now to be able to decently meta read them now and I felt they were different here from FFIV and when Koba called them scum, I thought they sounded very similar to the King’s Robes game where they were scum and my result confirmed it.

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Okay and your result? That I visited mastina N1 and didn't go anywhere last night or?

Why didnt you go anywhere last night again?

We have no confirmation of Dwelee visiting Mastina but we do have confirmation of Gamma visiting her. so both are lockclear for this.

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Okay and your result? That I visited mastina N1 and didn't go anywhere last night or?

It’s interesting that he auto assumed I was a tracker because it’s much easier to find reasons to debunk that. And another thing that I find interesting is that they mentioned both nights. If I were tracker I’d only have results for one. I really do feel confident that Dwelee will flip scum here and Titus likely a buddy. Weird that she tells Critter to wait to speak to Milo though but I don’t know what to read into that.

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Once at night you may bite another player, informing them they were bitten.

Then again the sample role pm says once too (without the comma, but still)
Probably just wording

If Titus is scum, KTT is locktown because their interaction is never SvS.

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What interaction was that?

When she said she splashed them but they had no recollection of that. That interaction makes 0 sense if they’re buddies.

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Also what do you think about Imaginality's point

I dont understand why dwlee claimed the "I only stop scum actions" part while being confident mastina will back them up

Idk if it helps I was scum bg in FFIV.

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Looks like we were asked for flavour for our check twice and I think I missed seeing the answer (though Nancy did answer our pokemon flavour) - our delayed cop check is Future Sight.

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yeah that's what I thought
Do you also have a move for knowing there is a gf or is it separate?

It's a bullet point under Future Sight, so neither.
-Truth for that last post and for this one

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This is a Fucking 1v1

Voting for anyone but me or wisdom is tantamount to hard claiming scum

Me today

His bitch ass tomorrow

I have a hard guilty on Dwelee, it would be gamethrowing to vote anywhere else.

~I

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Im assuming its the latter, nancy?

And yeah looks like Cakez aint conftown

If we target gf, we would get a false inno.

~I

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Hey guys, guess what.
I WAS HIT
by a car.
In the rear.

Haha, classic.

-Bell

I hope you’re okay Bell.

~I

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Also, we received a message that cleared a player.
Hope you're enjoying that tightening net scum.

-Bell

Who?

~I

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Im assuming its the latter, nancy?

And yeah looks like Cakez aint conftown

If we target gf, we would get a false inno.

~I

As for your question, yes. If we had been RB'd N2 we would get the results from N1 at the end of N2 but not find out that we have no result until the end of N3.

-Truth

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Also it's tough to tell, but I think chow is claiming the vig shot? And/or is saying they had a split evolution line and the really confusing drawing shows the conditions that determined which evo they got? But that really is just a wild guess at this point.

-Truth

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VOTE: dwlee

Back to this

Mastina vote Dwelee, thanks.

How about we

don't

vote the player who I think is so conftown that if someone claimed a guilty on them I'd vote the person claiming the guilty?

Dwlee's my strongest townread.

Dwlee/Koba/Wheme?

Good luck with this solve

Just remember to kill TIL after I flip cause I don't accept the redirect scenario as a possibility and don't believe we have a cop + loyal neighborizer + grave robber + multiple rolestoppers

That's stronger than FFXIV already

Yeah bruh, I’m suicidal scum who’s obviously faking a guilty on you because I just had a lobotomy.

~I

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KTT there's a guilty on Dwlee ignore Wisdom and vote dwlee

+1

I would prefer KTT and Wisdom didn’t interact with each other.

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So while I haven't yet reread the players I mentioned I did reread Dwlee (was looking at timing of when they mentioned targeting mastina vs when DkKoba did).

And Dwlee is 100% lying scum:

Yeah you get a whole ass new role when you evolve

I did not so that's weird

I gave mastina a 1-shot scum rolestopper so unless you think that's a scum role you're full of shit on whatever you're claiming

He claims he evolved N1 and also claims he targeted mastina N1.

That’s pretty funny, they can’t even keep their NA claims straight.

~I

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Nancy, can you investigate imaginality tonight?

Why do you think he’s scum?

Who else are you sussing on besides him?

I also need to be rs’d two nights in a row, to be able to both check and claim my next result.

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Im assuming its the latter, nancy?

And yeah looks like Cakez aint conftown

If we target gf, we would get a false inno.

~I

I was referring to the mod explaining delayed roles
Its the latter one they described, right?

I don’t understand what you’re asking me?

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chow chow is adoorbs

also how is dwlee still alive

+1

People don’t want to end the day yet?

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Come on you shit


You garbage dick


You fucking disaster of a person

You keep sniping at me, I told you this was Fucking personal bitch

Ok that's enough.

Stop.

This isn't game advancing or helpful.

This is just a personal grudge.

You’re wasting your time with this Koba. Critter tried, he’s clearly not listening.

~I

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I think I'll wait till thread cools down a bit though I feel a bit anxious posting right now with all that yeah.

Yeah, it maies me extremely uncomfortable too.

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Nancy, can you investigate imaginality tonight?

I'd much prefer critter get checked if he's going to continue pushing obvtown slots

I already checked Critter, I’m not going to check him twice.

~I

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I heard an need for cute pictures.

Does anyone want cute insects?

Sure, I can never get enough cuteness.

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bell scum

Pooky caught scum!Bell in Happy Face. Can you explain your Milo read.

That’s now both you and Imaginality.

~I

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My guess is he changes form N1 based off whether scum or town targets him first, is an ascetic night 2 and then evolves?

~chowchow

Translation? Are you also calling Milo scum?

~I

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Oh wait is it based off the day one eliminate? Whoever we flipped?

chow!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHOW!!!!!! chow chow chow chow chow
~chowchow

Chowchow keeps barking at Milo.

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You know what, fuck this, y'all ain't worth my mental health and it ain't worth making y'all uncomfortable

I hope to play with you again in better circumstances then o7

+1

When my best friend died, I took it out on the playerlist of a game I was in att.

~I

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bell scum

Pooky caught scum!Bell in Happy Face. Can you explain your Milo read.

That’s now both you and Imaginality.

~I

it's a joke lol

I love poking fun at Bell

He's my boy

Oh because I think this is town!Bell we’re seeing here. *relieved*

~I

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I think I was doubting you both because of Titus and what I thought could be possible associatives with Gypyx. I’m still not sure why she wants me to check you but I’m guessing something to do with VCA?

To answer your question I was both null and suss on Milo D1 at different times.

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i can see a KTT/Dwlee/Wheme team tbh - just perfectly under the radar to be the scum here assuming everything thats happened so far in light of the T3 town flip

I was buddies with Wheme in FFIV and he seems different here but idk.

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we should stick the course on T3

Ok Mr conftown

VOTE: T3

Just end this phase

T3 who do I vote tomorrow in your honor

This is as cringey af.

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still kill TIL btw

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I am happy to be reunited with t3 in a new domain

I highly doubt that, it’s never a good feeling when you get caught by cop check.

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I think I was doubting you both because of Titus and what I thought could be possible associatives with Gypyx. I’m still not sure why she wants me to check you but I’m guessing something to do with VCA?

To answer your question I was both null and suss on Milo D1 at different times.

No. Imagine is my play based scumread. I haven't done VCA yet. I don't feel confident enough to push so just a suggestion.

It would really help me if you explained exactly what you found scummy about his play?

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Mod, can you provide an example of how a delayed role and a bus driver would interact?

Depends on how the delayed role is phrased. If it's along the lines of "choose a player, on the next night you will target them and do X", then a bus driver would impact it on the second night, whereas if it's "target a player, and on the next night X will happen" then a bus driver would impact it on the first night.

Sorry if you already answered Nancy but can you clarify which version is you?

Also, ok with Dwelee based on my eyeball VCA. Then Wheme/Skrew.

I will just reiterate what I’ve already posted. We check at night and get results the following night.

RS 100% needs to be on me or you might not get more results.

If I don’t die, I will get a result on Critter/Skrew. I agree with STD, I think you and Koba are probably wrong about Wheme.

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Mod, can you provide an example of how a delayed role and a bus driver would interact?

Depends on how the delayed role is phrased. If it's along the lines of "choose a player, on the next night you will target them and do X", then a bus driver would impact it on the second night, whereas if it's "target a player, and on the next night X will happen" then a bus driver would impact it on the first night.

Sorry if you already answered Nancy but can you clarify which version is you?

Also, ok with Dwelee based on my eyeball VCA. Then Wheme/Skrew.

Super extra clarifying. We are the second type. If the bus driver changed our action N2 it does not impact our N1 results, but it would if the bus driver changed our action N1.

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^That was Truth btw

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Well I tried to get some eyes there but some people decided they only want to flip Dwlee and not give the chance for people to look elsewhere, so

We could have run wisdom up and made him answer my easy question, but…

We have a guity on them, not on Wisdom.

~I

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Nah this game is pretty much the whatever loud people want show.

Solo wagon on T3
Solo wagon on Dwlee.
At least tomorrow I come back inno so we will have discussion.

T3 and Dwelee are not in the same category. No one had a guilty on him.

If I’m not rolestopped, no results.

~I

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We got an inno on

Critter

Mathblade

-Truth

PEdit - Oh?

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Well critter slot just got easier to read

Had he repped in sooner, I probably wouldn’t have had to waste a check on that slot. :/

~I

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What? Critter is evolving!

...

Critter evolved into MathBlade!

-Truth

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HHAHA the leading scum must have targeted me ...

SO

I SELF TARGETED N2

my full ability:

nonconsecutive delayed rolestopper

essentially:
anyone who visits my target(i can self target) will be roleblocked the next night!

i self targeted night 2 - expecting to die or at least be visited by a scum

Problem is there’s probably two scum left, so the other scum won’t be but one crippled scum is always good.

~I

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We got an inno on

Critter

Mathblade

-Truth

PEdit - Oh?

I’d already figured out critter was math and he was town, but it’s good to have it out there for sure

Critter doesn’t sound anything like Math because Math would know I wouldn’t lie about faking a guilty.

~I

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HHAHA the leading scum must have targeted me ...

SO

I SELF TARGETED N2

my full ability:

nonconsecutive delayed rolestopper

essentially:
anyone who visits my target(i can self target) will be roleblocked the next night!

i self targeted night 2 - expecting to die or at least be visited by a scum

So you can act again tonight? In that case probably best you target TIL: even if they get killed the scum won’t be able to use that player to kill the next night

If I understand correctly, the N4 target will be protected N5, correct?

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HHAHA the leading scum must have targeted me ...

SO

I SELF TARGETED N2

my full ability:

nonconsecutive delayed rolestopper

essentially:
anyone who visits my target(i can self target) will be roleblocked the next night!

i self targeted night 2 - expecting to die or at least be visited by a scum

So you can act again tonight? In that case probably best you target TIL: even if they get killed the scum won’t be able to use that player to kill the next night

If I understand correctly, the N4 target will be protected N5, correct?

-Truth

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[Milobird, Wisdom, imaginality, Pooky] should have all scum, no?

I don’t think Pooky is scum here.

~I

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We got an inno on

Critter

Mathblade

-Truth

PEdit - Oh?

I’d already figured out critter was math and he was town, but it’s good to have it out there for sure

Critter doesn’t sound anything like Math because Math would know I wouldn’t lie about faking a guilty.

~I

I am literally confirmed to be the same and we almost did similar in Heroes.

But I am a weirdo and just gonna trust Gamma.

I don’t recall ever doing that. I never fake guilties.

~I

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I don’t trust gamma.

Gamma ducked me out of a Pt with Notty

I am a very sad kitty

You’re kidding about not trusting Gamma, right?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

We got an inno on

Critter

Mathblade

-Truth

PEdit - Oh?

I’d already figured out critter was math and he was town, but it’s good to have it out there for sure

Critter doesn’t sound anything like Math because Math would know I wouldn’t lie about faking a guilty.

~I

I am literally confirmed to be the same and we almost did similar in Heroes.

But I am a weirdo and just gonna trust Gamma.

I don’t recall ever doing that. I never fake guilties.

~I

Yeah we came super close to convincing mass town explosions on each other because they had to have the scum. Then something horrible ungame related happened and I got knocked off my game. And nope not talking about that thing.

But that isn’t even in the same ballpark? I know I’ve never personally done that and dw, what “thing”?

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I don’t trust gamma.

Gamma ducked me out of a Pt with Notty

I am a very sad kitty

I’M SORRY I SUCK AT MECH
I did the same dumbass shit in FGO 2 and it really stung when I flipped and had my alt revealed and everyone saw how much of a fuckup I was

I was in FGO 1 and had no clue about anything that happened in that game, other then the fact that my alt got replaced twice and eventually miselimed.

~I

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I don’t trust gamma.

Gamma ducked me out of a Pt with Notty

I am a very sad kitty

You’re kidding about not trusting Gamma, right?

~I

I got no pt. I got no Pt with my bestie all because of gamma

I don’t think Gamma’s ever scum here or Mastina. Because both of them helped play a major role in flipping Dwelee.

~I

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Theres 2 many fucking roles that can fuck with my role and its not a hard guilty

Can you tell us who it’s on at least?

Because if it corresponds with my reads, it still can be helpful.

~I

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Is... is chowchow claiming a move that lets them speak so they can explain their other move (once, hence the low PP)?

If so, speak, chow! Good dog!

-Truth

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THIS IS TOTALLY NOT A TRUST TELL BUT I WOULD NEVER IN 20,000 YEARS KILL MY HOMEBOY FIREBRINGER

HE IS LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON I JOINED THIS GAME TO SHITPOST AND TROLL

Pooky made a comparible post about Isis in Death Curse.

~I

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I jailed pooky.

Pooky was not visited by anyone either

You mean you also watch who you're jailkeeping?

Yes

So uhhh...unless Gamma's rolestopped target was the scum's nightkill...

...Isn't that like, evidence Pooky's just scum here?

VOTE: Pookythemagicalbear

Idk what to think now because this doesn’t look good but I just don’t see Pooky lying about killing FB.

Pooky, you need to full claim.

~I

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Oh cool add Dwlee99 to Gypyx and Ralts on the pile of "scum shiftily sniffing for stuff to stir up so as to subtly scatter some sneaky suspicion on seemingly stand-up citizens"

reminder that Imaginity caught 'em all (:

If you’re scum here Pooky, I’d be really sad.

Well, I guess if you are then Mala could definitely be your buddy because I tr you in part due to your defence of that slot.

~I

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Nancy did you say who was your third check

I didn’t and it probably doesn’t matter anyway but if I get rs’d tonight I’ll reveal it but I think game is probably solved.

~I

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VOTE: Pooky

I don’t believe scum no killed. Probably Pooky didn’t kill Fire and he made the kill last night instead. I also have trouble believing anyone’s a vt in this game or that Pooky has no night actions.

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I am Lunatone

me/cake have a hood

we have to agree on a vig target. [1 shot]

we ate gypyx on night 1

he was delicious

its called Wonder Room

Wait what?

UNVOTE:

Something isn’t addng up but Idk what.

~I

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Somehow the kill got blocked but I believe Pooky’s claim because no one has CC’d vig, so Pooky’s town.

~I

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I am Lunatone

me/cake have a hood

we have to agree on a vig target. [1 shot]

we ate gypyx on night 1

he was delicious

its called Wonder Room

Wait what?

UNVOTE:

Something isn’t addng up but Idk what.

~I

Somehow the kill got blocked but I believe Pooky’s claim because no one has CC’d vig, so Pooky’s town.

~I

Idc about the jk, unless someone else CC’s gypyx vigkill, Pooky/Cakez both confitown for this.

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Somehow the kill got blocked but I believe Pooky’s claim because no one has CC’d vig, so Pooky’s town.

~I

Did you just skim Nancy

They had a shared vig with SirCakez

Yes I read, which is why I unvoted. I’m pretty decent at reading Pooky, so I’m glad to be right on him once again.

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I am Lunatone

me/cake have a hood

we have to agree on a vig target. [1 shot]

we ate gypyx on night 1

he was delicious

Wisdom, do you seriously think someone as good at scum as Pooky wouldn’t try to change the target to town? Plus, he has an anti-bussing meta. So no, I don’t believe Pooky vigged his buddy.

I think the NK target was likely rolestopped because we have 3 of them.

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I think the NK target was likely rolestopped because we have 3 of them.

we do not have 3 of them, just gamma
mastina used it up on n2, and koba self-targeted n2 (and is not the source of the stop since mastina rolestopped them)
yes, one explanation is that gamma stopped a kill on you, but its not that likely that scum try to shoot you here

But no one CC’d vig and scum!Pooky would have tried to convince Cakez to vig town wouldn’t he? It just doesn’t make sense to me that someone as persuasive as Pooky couldn’t have persuaded Cakez to vig elsewhere.

~I

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Wisdom, do you seriously think someone as good at scum as Pooky wouldn’t try to change the target to town? Plus, he has an anti-bussing meta. So no, I don’t believe Pooky vigged his buddy.

as for this I dont know how Pooky is as scum but I know that Pooky trolls a lot and does random stuff so it doesnt feel like its out of the question
And Bell said that according to his and gypyx's history it's plausible so *shrug*

Not the vigging his buddy part. And Mastina knows this, one of the reasons she locktowned my slot in OMB was because of Pooky’s no bussing meta because I also led a wagon on scum!kitty in that game, so I don’t believe Pooky vigges his buddy. There has to be some other explanation.

I think we should do a mass claim because this is a mech complex game unlike OMB and if we do that we can hopefully find out why no kill happened.

~I

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If Pooky literally never buses his buddies D1 doesn't that cross into a trust tell? Like instead of "I'm always town if I say I am" it's "I'm always town if I say 'vote X' and X flips scum D1"?

Ugh. I just don't believe scum target TIL which would mean hoping Gamma targeted someone else. When scum have presumably used Perish Song on someone. Like, who else would Dwlee realistically have used Perish Song on?

And if there's a town power that could direct the scum kill onto Pooky surely someone would have claimed that?

So VOTE: Pooky

Oh and I agree about it being time to mass claim.

I'm Girafarig. My power is Psybeam. I can target a player and find out if they have killed. I have two shots of that. I targeted Milobird N2 and was told my action failed. I haven't used my second shot yet.

How is that a trust tell? I’m the one who said it not Pooky?

Pooky doesn’t vig his buddy, scum!Pooky would have persuaded Cakez to kill town.

~I

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Everything related has already been claimed

Not everyone has claimed. It’s also possible scum no killed. Idk why they wouldn’t but it’s a possibility but I think there could be other explanations especially when everything I know about Pooky meta makes this highly improbable.

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How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy

It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I

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Btw lemme know if this is wrong.

Living players:
Milobird (notscience + Bell)
Save The Dragons
Wisdom
imaginality
Gamma Emerald Alexandrite (MegAzumarill+Gamma Emerald+Yume)
WhemeStar
Titus The Goat
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
mastina
Truth Innuendos Lies (Nancy Drew + Marashu + Auro)
Malakittens Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
PookyTheMagicalBear Ralts
SirCakez
DkKoba Thestatusquo
MathBlade

Milobird has no clear but this is Bell's townplay and also notty looks insanely town af anyway.
Gamma Emerald's the rolestopper who counterclaimed Dwlee and is thus basically conftown here.
Truth Innouendos Lies is both obvtown from play and also the source of the cop guilty on Dwlee and thus IS conftown here.
SirCakez has a clear*, and is thus incredibly unlikely to be scum.
MathBlade has a clear*, and on top of that is a role incredibly likely to be town.
Titus is a friendly neighbor and is thus conftown.

*godfather's not flipped but confirmed to exist so all clears are not 100%

So removing that, it leaves:
Save The Dragons
Wisdom
imaginality
WhemeStar
chowchow (Anonymous Hydra)
Malakittens / Kitty Trauma Team (kuribo + Malakittens)
PookyTheMagicalBear / Ralts
DkKoba Thestatusquo (has roleclaimed but this roleclaim doesn't affect my read)

From there, I still have a townread on STD and Wisdom (I realize this isn't universal) and think that Malakittens and DKKoba are still less likely to be scum from play alone.

Which leaves my personal initial "PoE" (it's not really one since some of the names here aren't so much scumreads as much as "I personally cannot get a read there RIGHT NOW even if others can and think the slot is town") as:
{imaginality, WhemeStar, chowchow, Pooky} for 2 scum remaining.

I mostly agree with this but add Gamma and Wisdom and STD in the PoE.

Pausing here

Why would Gamma be in your PoE? He has been my most confident tr in this game and Mastina confirmed him as the rs that visited her not Dwelee.

~I

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Its safe as hell
He doesn't even confirm anyone as he claims targeting Milo who was rolestopped
And it doesn't make any sense not to use it on n3
Or to claim it with a shot still available

Yes it’s extremely suspicious that he wouldn’t use it last night. This reminds me of SS’ fakeclaim in OMB. I can probably find it but both Gamma and Mastina can probably comment on that as well.

~I

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How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy

It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I

Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.

Sorry.

I sincerely apologize for what I said to you before I knew who you were.

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How do you feel about Imaginality/Mala solve Nancy

It’s possible. I don’t want to rush the day though.

It’s amusing that Math didn’t believe my role because too many cops and then Imaginality claimed another one. So we have now: Fire, me, Math and apparently now Imaginality?

The one thing that makes me wonder about Imaginality’s claim is that he in essence claimed detective. Which may be on the level but it’s also not an uncommon scum fakeclaim.

~I

Leave me out of this.
It’s already established I am an idiot unless you want me to moon logic.

Sorry.

I sincerely apologize for what I said to you before I knew who you were.

That was a bit harsh sorry.

I have a bug that doesn’t want to go away

No worries, I really hope you feel better soon. <3

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Subject: Mini Theme 2217 | Owner's market blitz | Over

I don't like popcorn but I'm fine with going first.

D1 Misty put $300 on cop and did not get it.
D2 $500 on watcher and got it.

N2 did not act.
N3 watched Smoke & Mirrors, no visits.

S&M should choose the rest of the claim order, I think.

Pooky and me were S&M.

Anyway Mastina rightly jumped on him for this claim because A) we weren’t the optimal target to visit, Marcistar was and B) he waited until N3.

~I

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I dont feel like giving him any breathing room
He feels obviously scum with that claim
And the other is just mala but yeah

It’s extremely suspicious. Marashu tells me he’s pretty decent as scum.

His votes and reasoning have not been great either and he also wrongly accused Pooky of trustelling for the no bussing thing.

~I

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then i feel confident mastina will jump on Imaginality too

She should, she definitely should not be voting Pooky after locktowning our slot for the no bussing meta.

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Though she might be the gf so

And she still hasnt claimed what she did last night btw

Well, Gamma is off the charts super obvtown and I don’t understand the STD sr either.

Maybe Titus and Imaginality are distancing?

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Though she might be the gf so

And she still hasnt claimed what she did last night btw

Well, Gamma is off the charts super obvtown and I don’t understand the STD sr either.

Maybe Titus and Imaginality are distancing?

Could have I just solved this game?

~I

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

Titus is conftown nancy

Oh nm then.

[Truth Innuendos Lies]

I investigated Milo because I was suspicious of that slot and it seemed like others weren't so much so I figured I wouldn't be doubling up on someone else's choice. And given lack of suspicion on them it seemed like if they were part of the scum team they might be the ones who'd carry out the kill.

I didn't use it last night because I thought it might be worth saving til later game - we'd just limmed scum and I wasn't a likely NK target so there wasn't any rush.

I assume scum fake claims wouldn't be investigative roles in a game with a bunch of town investigatives but who knows.

There are enough roleblocking powers around also for it to maybe seem balanced like half the investigative shots likely get blocked. Plus there's a godfather.

I claimed now because we have enough claims already and enough advantage that we can win best by deciding as a town what to do compared to keeping remaining roles secret longer.

Did you just perspective slip with this?

VOTE: Imaginality

~I

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I investigated Milo because I was suspicious of that slot and it seemed like others weren't so much so I figured I wouldn't be doubling up on someone else's choice. And given lack of suspicion on them it seemed like if they were part of the scum team they might be the ones who'd carry out the kill.

I didn't use it last night because I thought it might be worth saving til later game - we'd just limmed scum and I wasn't a likely NK target so there wasn't any rush.

I assume scum fake claims wouldn't be investigative roles in a game with a bunch of town investigatives but who knows.

There are enough roleblocking powers around also for it to maybe seem balanced like half the investigative shots likely get blocked. Plus there's a godfather.

I claimed now because we have enough claims already and enough advantage that we can win best by deciding as a town what to do compared to keeping remaining roles secret longer.

Did you just perspective slip with this?

VOTE: Imaginality

~I

My point is, my claim is not a likely fake claim for scum to be given if there's a bunch of other investigative roles around?

That’s not a great answer. It’s a really strange thing to say, especially the “but who knows” part. When I was defending my role yesterday, that never even entered my head. It just reads kind’ve tmi to me.

Your D1 claim was on rolestopped slot, so inconclusive and you claim no further actions.

~I

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Though she might be the gf so

And she still hasnt claimed what she did last night btw

Well, Gamma is off the charts super obvtown and I don’t understand the STD sr either.

Maybe Titus and Imaginality are distancing?

How’d I get brought up

Titus speculated on you and STD as PoE.

~I

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Oh cool add Dwlee99 to Gypyx and Ralts on the pile of "scum shiftily sniffing for stuff to stir up so as to subtly scatter some sneaky suspicion on seemingly stand-up citizens"

As the person who started brain celll wagon I like the gypyx wagon more

Why?

I find this sequence of posts interesting. Idk why you would ask Wheme that question when you yourself had already expressed suspicion on gypyx.

~I

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I mean if I'm scum there's a bajillion better fake claims I could have made

maybe i'm a sucker but i was thinking this about the claim before imagine posted this

Not really. He claimed to target a slot that was rolestopped and no result yesterday. He might not have been at risk for NK but he had to know he was a possible risk for elimination. Slots that should feel the most comfortable doing that are slots covering the sweet spot middle ground, which clearly wouldn’t fit Imaginality.

Iow, someone like you claiming that would actually be believable but not Imaginality imo.

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With all this rolestopping/blocking/things I would envision scum having a strongman

Did I misunderstand Dwlee's role, then? Like, if it stops a target from non-actions, isn't that just a roundabout way of being a oneshot strongman who can use their strongman ability on someone else?

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There must be some games where it would have been more beneficial for Pooky to bus scum D1. If it's just a case that he's not needed to do far, then why do people place so much weight on it? "Pooky has never bussed D1" feels fine to me in a way which "Pooky never busses D1" doesn't.

It’s not just on D1 either. I was on his tm team and he only voted out a buddy who had been hard guiltied but he is confirmed by Cakez to be co-vig and out of 5 possible suggestions he gave Pooky, you’re seriously going to argue that he picks his strong pr buddy, especially after already down one scum?

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HHAHA the leading scum must have targeted me ...
SO
I SELF TARGETED N2
my full ability:
nonconsecutive delayed rolestopper
essentially:
anyone who visits my target(i can self target) will be roleblocked the next night!
i self targeted night 2 - expecting to die or at least be visited by a scum

Uh.

I kinda doubt you stopped the scum kill, DKKoba, considering I rolestopped you N2.
If your rolestop on yourself is delayed until N3, I'm

pretty

sure that it should've failed due to me rolestopping you N2 and you self-targeting.

I'd trust whoever Gamma rolestopped to be conftown, no offense.

Well I targeted TIL so no paranoia should ever fall there at least

That’s probably the most likely explanation, they didn’t want Math inno’d.

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There must be some games where it would have been more beneficial for Pooky to bus scum D1. If it's just a case that he's not needed to do far, then why do people place so much weight on it? "Pooky has never bussed D1" feels fine to me in a way which "Pooky never busses D1" doesn't.

You continuing to push Pooky isn’t doing you any favours. He’s practically confitown for the one shot vig thing.

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There must be some games where it would have been more beneficial for Pooky to bus scum D1. If it's just a case that he's not needed to do far, then why do people place so much weight on it? "Pooky has never bussed D1" feels fine to me in a way which "Pooky never busses D1" doesn't.

You continuing to push Pooky isn’t doing you any favours. He’s practically confitown for the one shot vig thing.

~I

Clearly not everyone agrees with you.

Oh really? Who is disagreeing with me other than you?

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chowchow too lazy to sign because chow is on an island hunting anychow

chow is back so sign chowchow

-chow

Thank you so much for clarifying, I was seriously concerned.

~I

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see i see a world where a defeated scum!chowchow is just memeing at this point

Possibly because they’re not even pretending to be solvey anymore but if they’re scum, they’re the cutest scum ever. Anyway, I agree that mala’s more likely to be town.

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Man idk why would imaginitly claim like that they have no reason too

Because they’re possibly gambiting that we believe their detective role that targeted rolestopped milo on n2 and hasn’t used their second shot yet?

I don’t like that they keep pushing near confitown. The mind numbing amount of absurdity and sheer disbelief required to think that out of 5 players Cakez suggested, that Pooky who has hardclaimed co-vig with Cakez, which no one has CC’d, with a no bussing meta, vigs his pr buddy with one scum already down is simply mind boggling.

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Man idk why would imaginitly claim like that they have no reason too

Because they’re possibly gambiting that we believe their detective role that targeted rolestopped milo on n2 and hasn’t used their second shot yet?

I don’t like that they keep pushing near confitown. The mind numbing amount of absurdity and sheer disbelief required to think that out of 5 players Cakez suggested, that Pooky who has hardclaimed co-vig with Cakez, which no one has CC’d, with a no bussing meta, vigs his pr buddy with one scum already down is simply mind boggling.

~I

It’s really the Pooky push more than anything that’s the most concerning.

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Cakez, did Pooky give any reasoning for the choice? Or comments as he caught up, since the replacement happened during N1? And was any planning happening with Ralts on who the shot should be? Or any discussion at all worth noting?

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Man idk why would imaginitly claim like that they have no reason too

Because they’re possibly gambiting that we believe their detective role that targeted rolestopped milo on n2 and hasn’t used their second shot yet?

I don’t like that they keep pushing near confitown. The mind numbing amount of absurdity and sheer disbelief required to think that out of 5 players Cakez suggested, that Pooky who has hardclaimed co-vig with Cakez, which no one has CC’d, with a no bussing meta, vigs his pr buddy with one scum already down is simply mind boggling.

~I

It’s really the Pooky push more than anything that’s the most concerning.

~I

I can’t imagine town who’d push on town /sarcasm

You mean like you did me?

But you forget that we had proof of a vig on gypyx with no CC’d. That’s very different. I wasn’t confirmed yesterday, I am today but Pooky/Cakez vig shot was confirmed.

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I just feel there's something off when people are treating it 100% confirmation of Pooky town. If other people are loudly proclaiming this every game it happens then Pooky not advertising it himself is irrelevant. Effectively town's getting an extra N1 cop inno result in a quarter or so of the games Pooky's in.

I don't know, it just annoys me we've gone from about to lim Pooky to about to lim me just because of this tell that everyone treats as gospel.

Even if you overlooked all of that, he’s a confirmed co-vig and I can’t think of a single game where scum went out of their way to NK a buddy. So it’s a bad push irrespective of Pooky meta.

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I low key think imganity will flip town

What’s clearing Titus again? Or wisdom?

Idk what Notty is I’m wondering if he is aestic or something

Titus was cleared by a Friendly Neighbour message received by... *checks notes* you? It was sent to Milo but was redirected to you, from what I understood.

-Truth

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I went back and checked, and it looks like it was Milo who got the message after all. Sorry.

-Truth.

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I think my biggest question right now is, why is Wonder Room a killing move? Also wondering, would detective show both as having killed, or did one control the shot?

Guess we'll find out soon who the perish song target was...

-Truth