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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:00 pm

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Seasonal dews can sometimes outgrow their specific season... it's why that watermelon one is STILL kicking sigh.


Milk & Mocha (4): Dunnstral, Venus Fly Trap, Lady Lamdadelta, Towelie
E. M. M. I. (2): , ssbm_Kyouko, Gamma Emerald
ssbm_Kyouko (2): Wisdom, Critter
Dunnstral (1): Milk & Mocha
Gamma Emerald (1): StrangeMatter
Critter (1): MUSHSHAGANA

Not Voting (2): Something_Smart, E. M. M. I.

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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:03 pm

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In post 1250, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
In post 1225, Gamma Emerald wrote:Kyouko, EMMI, StrangeMatter
Let’s narrow it down to 3 slots
Can folks tell me why we don’t eliminate these slots? I don’t see any reason not to go with any of these three, and I don’t disagree with Gamma on keeping the day short.
Your vote is not on them
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:39 pm

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In post 1237, Noraa wrote:
In post 1235, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Noraa come back
wat
In post 1230, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13086140#p13086140]post 1228[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:idc about anyone else honestly. like i caught one scum and maybe will catch another later so im doing amazing. pooky agrees with me and we've basically just got the game solve so life is just sexy as fuck.
What's your poe beyond dunn?
Adding to this question - I'm asking because you say you have the game solved but only have Dunn as scum right now, and say you dont have others right now, implying if you have the game "solved" you have a small enough POE to justify the statement. This can only be the case if you have enough townreads to narrow the POE and I also haven't noticed many of those.

Kinda feels like you're in do nothing mode which is where scum should be right now assuming Wisdom/Critter are both town.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:45 pm

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In post 1239, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1229, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 28, Gamma Emerald wrote:I used to enjoy diet Mountain Dew but can’t really have it with my anxiety medication (it’s got grapefruit juice in it)
But I’d probably still enjoy a Code Red on occasion (aka WHEN I CAN FIND ONE (read that in the voice of Dad Turner from Fairly Odd Parents))
Critter had no problem with Gamma talking about mountain dew flavors btw
I only spent the one post on it pretty much though, and I’ve generated real content
At the time you hadn't though. Just an observation.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:49 pm

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In post 1244, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1236, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Whoever thought EMMI wasnt an alt, here's this^
lol who thought that
In post 958, Venus Fly Trap wrote:
In post 927, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:It's safe to assume EMMI is at least somewhat experienced because it's a gimmick account and I feel like those are almost always created by players with an established meta looking to have a more relaxing game where they dont have to play as hard to their established meta.
i was actually reading emmi as a new player and not as a gimmick account, fwiw
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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:59 pm

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In post 1249, Venus Fly Trap wrote:
In post 1177, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I did it because it guarantees scum will see it and the potential motivation, if he is town, is to draw the NK off of LLD, or potentially if he really has a role, to be able to play aggressively and WIFOM scum into not shooting him because he's trying to draw a kill. However, if he is scum and makes it deep, this guarantees that someone who lives longer than me will poke at the soft later and not let it go unnoticed.
uh am i reading this right? you outed him in order to make sure scum sees it to draw the nk off of lld onto him? why wasn't gamma's claim sufficient for that exactly? why do u think scum would kill unknown-pr-critter over macho-ic?
this doesn't make sense to me
Well you're only reading my post as though Critter is town which you cant know from a town POV. I wasn't thinking about Gamma's claim, but Gamma's role as claimed is on the weaker side. I don't think it's sufficient to draw the kill. An unknown PR could have the capability to investigate or interfere with the scum. It may make more sense to kill an unknown PR over LLD, especially if LLD is not leading wagons on scum. The Macho was announced by the mod so scum knows it's not even like a gambit for a BP IC or something. Scum can take the LLD kill whenever they want.

Anyways, you dont seem to be considering the whole post - part of the reason to point out the softs is in case Critter is scum, but you haven't considered that. If VFT ever flips scum, I think this is a perspective slip that spews town!Critter
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:00 pm

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In post 1250, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
In post 1225, Gamma Emerald wrote:Kyouko, EMMI, StrangeMatter
Let’s narrow it down to 3 slots
Can folks tell me why we don’t eliminate these slots? I don’t see any reason not to go with any of these three, and I don’t disagree with Gamma on keeping the day short.
Weird that you attribute a short day to Gamma when Critter is the broken record repeating the day is already long enough and should be ended.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:04 pm

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In post 1263, Critter wrote:
In post 1261, Towelie wrote:Kyos most likely town and the push on her is boring at best
If I am right on Kyo >85% confidence
You’re scum 75% of the time with her.

I don’t see how you get a townread on Kyo at all.
I just played isekai with the notscience head. I'm assuming that has something to do with it.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:00 am

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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:10 am

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In post 1280, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 1249, Venus Fly Trap wrote:
In post 1177, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I did it because it guarantees scum will see it and the potential motivation, if he is town, is to draw the NK off of LLD, or potentially if he really has a role, to be able to play aggressively and WIFOM scum into not shooting him because he's trying to draw a kill. However, if he is scum and makes it deep, this guarantees that someone who lives longer than me will poke at the soft later and not let it go unnoticed.
uh am i reading this right? you outed him in order to make sure scum sees it to draw the nk off of lld onto him? why wasn't gamma's claim sufficient for that exactly? why do u think scum would kill unknown-pr-critter over macho-ic?
this doesn't make sense to me
Well you're only reading my post as though Critter is town which you cant know from a town POV. I wasn't thinking about Gamma's claim, but Gamma's role as claimed is on the weaker side. I don't think it's sufficient to draw the kill. An unknown PR could have the capability to investigate or interfere with the scum. It may make more sense to kill an unknown PR over LLD, especially if LLD is not leading wagons on scum. The Macho was announced by the mod so scum knows it's not even like a gambit for a BP IC or something. Scum can take the LLD kill whenever they want.

Anyways, you dont seem to be considering the whole post - part of the reason to point out the softs is in case Critter is scum, but you haven't considered that. If VFT ever flips scum, I think this is a perspective slip that spews town!Critter
This is a whole lotta nope. If I am scum then posts still exist later. Do you think I can just take Mountain Dew and dissolve my prior posts?

(Joke) I claim infinite shot post deleter.

This is you trying so desperately to come up with a Townie explanation for something you should not do as town and something I think you did as scum.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:16 am

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I will have time later today finally.
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:22 am

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Let’s go through Kyo’s entire ISO shall we:
353 - Brought up flavor unprompted
358 - Claims flavor unprompted and says “No” to some question not present in thread
393 - More flavor jokes
398 - More flavor jokes/spec
415 - More flavor talk
421 - Flavor argument votes the IC sixteen minutes later. This is premeditated.

Let’s assume not and she REALLY likes Mountain Dew.
Then she reads from the start of the game to where LLD pushes Dunn.
She would see that it is for a flavor based reason she pushed Dunn.
For someone who says they like Mountain Dew and are talking about flavor a lot voting someone because they did flavor spec is bad.
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:29 am

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450 - Still talking flavor and saying she didn’t get LLD’s case and says her own slot softed a comptetitor brand yet it is a yikes of Dunn’s slot somehow. Kyo scum more than likely makes Dunn town that’s yikes.

469 - Says claiming flavor in your opening post goes against the status quo and shouldn’t be done unless protown benefit or Miller claim. Since no Miller claim and no protown benefit established this is pure hunting.

Now let’s go back to that post I hate so very much. Just a moment.
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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:35 am

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In post 415, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 110, E. M. M. I. wrote:Just curious; how popular is/was Mountain Dew DEW*S*A?
It was one of the last ones I tried before I started calorie counting and i really liked it. It was like sparkling berry, reminded me a little of whiteout which I guess makes sense because it was a mixture of whiteout code red and voltage
Dunn is code red and not a gambit of some kind this is established. Why the fuck are EMMI and this new slot shooting the shit about flavors here. At this point the claim had already happened and this is one of only like under 10 posts from the EMMI slot. This is also about flavor.

There is no way flavor is not important to scum.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:42 am

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Combining this with 421 does not make sense as an argument.

Pretend for a moment LLD is not an IC and Kyo is town.

Pretend LLD is doing exactly what is proposed here. She’s scum who wants to push Dunn. How would she not realize what flavors she had? Wouldn’t she de facto know what flavors town had? And who says town only gets Mountain Dew flavors? It’s on or off brand.
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:50 am

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472 - STILL talking flavor and now chalks a mistake up to “misremembering”. When do we get to an actual read?
482 - Asks why she’s being @‘d after claiming a flavor.

Apparently some mystical flavor claim is supposed to get her to where she never gives reads or interacts with a good chunk of the player base?

493 - LLD please forgive me but I think this post is meant to buddy you.

490-499 Stops me from trying to figure out Dunn’s alignment with some ridiculous crap

501 Is the first reads we get from her. Like damn
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:56 am

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In post 504, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Gamma Emerald
Towelie (hydra of borkjerfkin and notscience)
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Milk & Mocha (hydra of PookyTheMagicalBear and Noraa)
Venus Fly Trap (hydra of skitter30 and lilith2013)
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Toogeloo

Oh Emmi not unvoting Dunn when they popped in seemed weird, felt like they were aware of the VC but had no concern that they were on a leading wagon without having read.

Towelie hasn't pinged me except that he doesnt like baja blast? Very suspicious
Gonna combine 501-4

EMMI is top tier town for voting Dunn, asking a flavor question, and disappearing?

This reads list is faker than shit.

Kyo/EMMI/Towelie is where I am at atm. She also puts HERSELF at the bottom of her reads.
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:57 am

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In post 2, Cabd wrote:Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:01 am

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Thank you for proving my point that it’s bullshit. She has wanted me dead for ever since I questioned her flavor baiting ways. I have to go so I have to stop midway though but if we do not elim the flavor souping Kyo I will be one sad insect.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:04 am

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1) why does scum claim about flavor when it has no effect on the game

2)that quote from kyo is literally just a c/paste of cabds playerlist

Wow, I’m glad I’m not on the crying kyo wagon with this!
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:05 am

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Cringe not crying.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:09 am

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1) To steer conversation about flavor so they can PR hunt. It’s be a mod safe fake claim of flavor anyway they’d claim
2) Addressed and answered.

You’re also nitpicking a detail vs the main point. Kyo doesn’t have reads. She spams it up about Mountain Dew then OMGUS’s me and Wisdom.
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:11 am

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C/P’ing playerlist order isn’t a sign of scum
You might be right about kyo but you’re doing a horrible job of making sense about it
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:13 am

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In post 501, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 496, Critter wrote:Waiting on reads Kyo tick tock tick tock
You scum, mush town, gamma town, nora possibly scumclaimed but nobody else notices these things. Wisdom obstinate, need to review him and toog in iso real quick, as his vote sticking in place feels wrong. However it's not likely you and wisdom are both scum so wrong on at least one of those

Dunnstral idk, I've had vibes he was scum at times but he doesnt feel like he did in isekai and I tracked him to the kill completely by accident there, had no idea he may be scum. I was setting up to Watch him later and he happened to be killing that Night

SM feels like limbait so town. Flytrap is POE scum. Gonna check playerlist for the resr as others in game are escaping me.
Interesting the post with actual reads in it doesn’t get quoted while you quote the c/pasted playerlist
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:17 am

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In post 1297, Gamma Emerald wrote:C/P’ing playerlist order isn’t a sign of scum
You might be right about kyo but you’re doing a horrible job of making sense about it
29 posts (if my count is right) before she gets to an actionable read in 501. That’s a quarter of her ISO.

Everything else before that is flavor or throw away one liners or posts that stop communication.

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