Hi!
Let's gooo VOTE: Clem
I feel so hurtIn post 79, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:i was completely unaware pavowski had posted and i suddenly have much better feelings for t3
UNVOTE: t3
This is true, but given the last game was basically 100% shitposting, 90 feels like improvement.In post 88, numberQ wrote:I was typing up my thoughts on each iso, until I realized that this game has been 90% shitposting even 4 pages in. With the exception of IV and T3. A50, cows, and schadd have have put outsomeactual thought and content, but still within that 90% margin. Everyone else has either done barely anything, or has done nothing but shitpost.
So I guess with basically only that to go on, I like IV and T3 for town and I'm pretty null on everyone else.
No benefitIn post 212, innocentvillager wrote:why not give him the benefit of the doubt and ask?
Getting a little meta here, but there is more than one kind of pressure. There's pressure from questions and pointing out inconsistencies, and then there's pressure from threat of elimination. They're not the same but they do both create, well, pressure.In post 224, StrangeMatter wrote:Going to put my 10 cents into this but I really don't think its a good idea to put people at L-1 (Isn't it called E-1 though?), especially since pressure should never be based off only votes, rather if you have a question to ask, you should ask it. Although, I don't think I can elaborate any more than that without snapping a rule.
Not to butt in on a conversation that doesn't involve me, but I think his post there kinda answers it.In post 237, StrangeMatter wrote:Can you explain why we shouldn't be afraid of L-2/L-1?In post 200, numberQ wrote:Alright let me catch up
In post 97, schadd_ wrote:well i can tell you i chose a person to vote based on their postingThere's one point of charlemagne's #100 I particularly agree with, that we shouldn't be afraid of L-2/1.I want to see reactions from people under pressure, andI think if it really is just a meme wagon with no substance or scrutiny, sure, avoid that. But the memery has slowed down and there's a lot of actual scumhunting going on, so I'm all for the wagoning.if scum do bumrush a wagon like that near the end, that seems like some prime explode bait to me.
You hit it exactly, I feel better about the people voting cows than the people voting you, independent of my personal reads on you bothIn post 332, numberQ wrote:Why does the cows wagon look good if you think cows has been looking more town lately?Pavowski wrote:To provide some content, I actually like cows a little more over the last few posts, and self-voting is something scum won't do here as it's directly against wincon. But claiming "I'll self-vote" isn't self-voting.
Also, the wagon on Cows looks pretty good to me, with the exception of maybe t3, but I always scumread t3 so...
Meanwhile the counter wagon on Q is ... Not good
Do you think there's scum voting me right now?
Sorry I am dumb, what is wim?In post 333, T3 wrote:no wim
You can fix that anytime and apparently it will raise your stock with schadd
In college I knew this dude named Travis who drank ... A lotIn post 377, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I have analyzed the trends between NEPs and found this game to be an outlier.
Implying resistance from mafia for a cows elimination:
Hate when people get genuinely worked up over this dumb game.In post 441, innocentvillager wrote:what do you hate? who is scum and whyIn post 432, Pavowski wrote:Ugh I hate this stuff =\
I feel thatIn post 449, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i am too bored to be scum
I was already inclined to vote A50 since the Cows wagon seems to have derailed but 488 convinced me to take the leap, lot of hedging going on there, and I say that as a master hedgerIn post 492, numberQ wrote:And on that note, @Pav, was 488 the catalyst for you voting A50 or was there another reason?
Hmm. I've been nullish on Strange and I try not to meta too hard but I can see the similarities thereIn post 499, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:cow sighIn post 494, Almost50 wrote:Because this game sucks rocks and I won't have another round of debates. If my lim gets the game to the "knock-outs stage" so be it.
--i think strange hedge is scummyIn post 495, innocentvillager wrote:scum!Strange is playing the role of being very vocal against the whole scum trying to rush D1 but hasn't been proactively doing anything which i find kind of incongruent. i think that pings me because it feels like his adamance against players like pooky who are memeing is theatre either with a scumbuddy or just to look town. if cows goes through i think this play is like some sort of hedge about being scum being spread out among the gamestate or whatever.
185, 236, 270
the newbie where they replaced in as soloscum i saw it a fair bit
i'm lazy so here's the copy-and-paste for ur taskbar
Code: Select all
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=87429&user_select[]=35821
#1691 is the hugest offender. #1681 #1616 also wack
i'm looking at an iso of a town game they played with me and there's a lot of early conclusions, personal anecdotes and emotions that are shown, not said (if that's an actual towntell?)
not very much hedge
Code: Select all
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=87240&user_select[]=35821
in fact the differences between this town game and the (hypothetical) two scum games is a lot, and are relatively recent (all of these are in a 5 month period)
I mostly agree with you, except for this last part. The entire reason this game and this first day are dragging out is because of the one element of the mechanic designed to keep the game from being pure meme madness: looking at who votes where and with whom on this first day is just about the only thing that can guide us beyond gutfeels when we start going boom.In post 502, Almost50 wrote:There will be no "interactions", no VCA.. etc. It's a meme. literally a guessing game. I don't believe I will have better reads if I last longer, because the one who will explode is most likely a TOWN PLAYER, so theor choice doesn't give me any additional info (except for theirs and their target's flip). Like, let's say I could explode now and I choose to target X (feel free to replace X with the player of your choice). I flip green and X flips (again, consider both cases). Now what does that tell you about Y & Z?
I wouldn't say "clear" but the self-vote kinda shatters my confidence in my A50 voteIn post 503, innocentvillager wrote:i can't believe i had A50 in my poe here i think it's clear he's town at this point
See this is why the self-vote isn't a knockdown townlock for meIn post 513, Almost50 wrote:VOTE: Pooky
I do believe that's where I was voting last before I self-voted
No, I'm just saying there were 2 votes on youIn post 518, Almost50 wrote:So you want me to insist on being the day lim and try to block the wagon on the one I SR??
I'd rather vote Strange or Charl but pressure makes things happenIn post 520, innocentvillager wrote:VOTE: Pooky it's worth pressuring here if people don't want to go to charl or strange
Reading over discussion of cows from last evening and this resonates with me the most. Reason I could still vote cows is because I keep hoping I'll get a stronger town read and it keeps not coming.In post 599, innocentvillager wrote:it is weird that cows has posted so much and i can't get a read off him on dayplay
I wish I could just "like" posts sometimesIn post 603, Clemency wrote:i just want you to know i think you're a darlingIn post 600, innocentvillager wrote:it feels like an uphill battle getting reads when 70% of the plist isn't even trying to play the game but whatever i will still try. i wanted a green role PM after a miserable scum streak and here it is lol. there's always rereading i guess
In post 608, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:my vote very likely doesn't end on pavow today but i think there's a lot of people that "out-town" him so he's still in my b6 by poe
if that makes sense
I keep thinking about whether scum tunnels like this, and I just don't think they do. Like Pooky could be wrong about Cows but why is scum!Pooky so determined to make this case? I don't see itIn post 622, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dunno how much harder cows can scumtell for you guys
it is p funny
schadd_ wrote: schadd: see 16 (breadcrumb)
I had forgotten this game-changing informationIn post 16, schadd_ wrote:im town
Not particularly, no.innocentvillager wrote:anyone townreading this?
Like in his most recent cases (658-663) IV townreads A50 and Q, scumreads T3, Charl, StrangeIn post 706, innocentvillager wrote:dude I have been stalling this day trying to play the game for the past two weeks with virtually no one on my sideIn post 700, Enchant wrote:And didn't unvote?In post 698, innocentvillager wrote:I’m also not a fan that the wagon went through so quickly
I don’t get why everyone was so impatient but whatever it’s fine
problem is scum can just blend in with that attitude
You think I am just going to snap hop off the 5th wagon I try 4 days to deadline
i mean I considered it tbh but I’m also getting tired of people complaining about this day not being over so I was like what fucking ever
please play the game tomorrow though
SecondedIn post 795, numberQ wrote:I'm no setup wizard, but I think a shorter D1 would help a lot. Both for the people in it for the memes, and the ones who actually want to play Mafia.