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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:32 pm

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319 and 320 passed. Here is an update:
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 Proposal 315 (Post 106) by Jake The Wolfie: Amend Rule 208 to say the following: There may be no more than X pending proposals at any given time, where X is the largest of either 5, or 5 + 1/2 * (# of active players - 5), rounded down if necessecary. The only exception is when an active player becoming inactive would cause X to be less than the current number of proposals. A pending proposal is a proposal that has not yet been marked as having passed or failed.
 Yea - Jake The Wolfie (106), StrangerCoug (108)
 Nay - Ircher (111), Deimos27 (128)
 Inactive - Charles510 (130), tris (131)
 Not Voting - lendunistus

 Proposal 321 (Post 146) by Ircher: Transmute rule 320 to immutable. This proposal automatically fails if 320 fails.
 Yea - Ircher (146), StrangerCoug (147), Deimos27 (148)
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 Inactive - Charles510 (130), tris (131)
 Not Voting - lendunistus, Jake The Wolfie
 <i>This proposal requires unanimous consent to be approved.</i>

I'm going to go ahead and send tris and Charles510 a reminder about the game's existence.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:53 pm

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In post 149, Deimos27 wrote:Any opinion on the central bank Coug?
So far I don't have any objections to it.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 12:57 pm

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Ah, but we're not just interested in objections here. We would like for it to be in the best condition it can be when it is brought to the table. Do you have any suggestions or things you think should be done differently even if you don't object to them?
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:51 pm

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The Central Bank of Coug sounds amazing
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:23 pm

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Sorry to go inactive. I couldn't think of a good proposal idea and then forgot about it.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:26 pm

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VOTE: Nay 315 too complicated.
VOTE: Yea 321
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:27 pm

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do I have to edit the wiki now?
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:56 pm

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Glad you'll be on board for not instituting el bank o cougar
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:08 pm

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So Jake.... What do I have to do to convince you to vote Yea to 321? Also, I'm pretty sure 315 was rejected as of Charles510's vote so we only have one outstanding proposal.
In post 156, Charles510 wrote:do I have to edit the wiki now?
I just went ahead and did it, but it is encouraged to do it as soon as you get a chance. (You don't have to do it immediately per say, just in a reasonable time frame.)
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:40 pm

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I don't particularly like 320.
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:51 pm

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.................Come on, what if I gave you N$850 and a one-use coupon that you can redeem to secure my vote on a single proposal or motion?
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:03 pm

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That sounds spicy.

Throw in the motion that I shall be called Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle for 1 week.
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:09 pm

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And for every infraction, I get 25N$, and they lose either 1 point, or 50$N, if they don't have any points.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:26 pm

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Motion M001: Jake The Wolfie shall be called Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle, for one week (168 hours) upon the passing of this motion provided that he votes for proposal 321. This shall be reflected in all relevant places.

VOTE: YEA M001
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:48 pm

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VOTE: YEA M001
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 4:52 pm

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Proposal 322: A Conditional Vote is defined to be the following: If a player inserts the keywords "Conditional" before the Yea or Nay, and includes the condition within the line that contains the vote in bold, then the vote will a Conditional Vote. A Conditional Vote will only count when the bolded condition becomes true. If the bolded condition is impossible, the vote will be voided. While the bolded condition is possible but has not occurred yet, the player will not vote.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:08 pm

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Proposal 323: If a player breaks any rule, they cannot earn points for the next 24 hours. If the same player breaks any rule within this timeframe, add 24 more hours to the timeframe. In addition, that player loses 1 point. For each additional rule break by the same player within this timeframe, they lose X points, where X equals how many rules that player has broken. In addition, 24 hours will be added to their timeframe.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:26 pm

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Here's a bastard idea:

Each of us, going in some order, gets to create a new Temporary Rule (Starting at T000). These rules go into effect immediately, but there are a few restrictions that they have, mainly no instant wins (such as Player X gains 100 points) and no changing the structure of this process (such as Player Y is considered to be inactive while this rule exists)
On your turn, you may choose to either create a Temporary Rule, or retract a Temporary Rule.

Of course, we could also do this in a miniature game of nomic within our game of nomic, which might be fun.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:35 pm

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Interesting idea:

A miniature board game (similar to Betrayal at the Haunted House on the Hill), where certain rules only apply in certain rooms. Any time a player investigates a room, they may either create the first rule in that room, or decide what the room looks like (with everyone else voting on the other property of the room)
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 5:39 pm

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I'm tempted to propose the following:

"Apple. This requires Unanimous consent + consent from at least one Mish Mash Moderator to pass."
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:45 pm

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In post 163, Ircher wrote:
Motion M001: Jake The Wolfie shall be called Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle, for one week (168 hours) upon the passing of this motion provided that he votes for proposal 321. This shall be reflected in all relevant places.

VOTE: YEA M001
smh I thought we weren’t doing US politics /s
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Oct 31, 2021 6:59 pm

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Oh look at this
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:09 am

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VOTE: Yea 322
VOTE: Yea 323
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:09 am

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VOTE: Aye 322
The temporary rule game sounds like a right old pain to balance.

The room concept is a pretty flexible one that we can certainly consider, but I'm very apprehensive about letting any one player pick a room's rule solely because of its potential to provide huge advantages if not outright break the game. Again, just hard to balance.

If you want to democratically institute special rooms with special rules that can be voluntarily entered or exited by all I think you are free to do so through proposals.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:10 am

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What is your qualm with 320/321 exactly?

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