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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:29 am

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I don't think that a Motion should be able to bypass a Mutable rule.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:00 am

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In post 151, StrangerCoug wrote:
In post 149, Deimos27 wrote:Any opinion on the central bank Coug?
So far I don't have any objections to it.
I would have to think about whether it could use some improvement. I'm phoneposting on lunch break right now.

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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 6:53 am

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322 passed as of StrangerCoug's post.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:25 am

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VOTE: Conditional Yea 321
If both M001 passes, and if Ircher grants me both N$850 and a 1-time coupon to secure their vote on either a proposal or motion.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:34 am

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I will do both as soon as lendunistus votes Yea to it.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:38 am

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Why
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:17 am

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Proposal 324: If an item is denoted as being Permanent, then it will stay inside of the Nomic Shop indefinitely unless some other effect removes it from the Nomic Shop. Furthermore, items what are meant to outlast their Motion but are not meant to stay forever can be added either as a Limited Supply, which would require how many of that item is stocked within the shop, or as Limited Time, which would require how much time that item is inside of the shop. Each time an item in Limited Supply is bought, the number representing how many of that item exist goes down by 1. If this would cause this number to go to 0, then the item shall be removed. If this would cause the number to go below 0, the transaction will not go through. After the amount of time a Limited Time item is allotted to stay inside of the shop, that item shall be removed.


This should make adding items to the nomic shop a bit easier.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:46 am

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In post 180, Deimos27 wrote:Why
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it important for motions to bypass mutable rules, Ircher? Do you have any examples in mind?
Well an example of one from the last game was when I was trialing out extending the number of allowed active proposals. Now, you may argue, "Oh, you could just amend it and then amend it back if it didn't work out," but that misses the point completely. One of the nice things about motions is that they are temporary, and there is no extra work involved in getting rid of unfavorable motions because they will expire naturally. I think the other thing to consider here is that aside from one-time effects and trialing new rules, motions can be used in a reactionary way. While perhaps most reactionary actions will not require the motion to override the set of mutable rules, some will, so it is best to have it in the rules beforehand that way when it is needed, it can be invoked.

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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:56 am

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VOTE: Yea 321
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:16 am

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We also need another vote to pass M001
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:25 am

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Accept N$850 from Ircher
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:04 am

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VOTE: Yea 324
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:15 am

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VOTE: Aye M001
I suppose it is harmless
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:16 am

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VOTE: Aye 324
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:20 am

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VOTE: Aye 323
All be warned that Prince Jake, son of the 7th circle will undoubtedly be using 323 as a mechanism for enforcing His new epithet.
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:27 am

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It would be useful if the central bank were to publish updates also on stats such as the daily or weekly percentage increase of the money supply, to inform pricing decisions on shop items. I would certainly volunteer to do so if I were elected to the board regardless of whether it is an officially required duty.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:31 am

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Before 321 is accepted, I must also receive that coupon from Ircher, as per the condition.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:32 am

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In post 190, Deimos27 wrote:It would be useful if the central bank were to publish updates also on stats such as the daily or weekly percentage increase of the money supply, to inform pricing decisions on shop items. I would certainly volunteer to do so if I were elected to the board regardless of whether it is an officially required duty.
That would be a good idea now that you bring it up. Since the way Nomic dollars are introduced is effectively inflationary in nature, it might be necessary to allow changing item prices to account for it.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:33 am

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Oh, and don't forget to give all the active players N$100 after (expired on 2021-11-02 00:00:00).
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:57 am

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Both 323 and 324 pass.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:59 am

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In post 191, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Before 321 is accepted, I must also receive that coupon from Ircher, as per the condition.
I will update the wiki, but consider it done.
Edit: It is listed now on the wiki. Is that sufficient, or would you like a more formal thing with it? (If the latter, it probably entails making some kind of motion.)
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:08 pm

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Motion M002: (This motion lasts 1 second)The Nomic Shop receives the following Permanent Item: Vote Coupon ([PLAYERNAME]), N$100 - This item can be traded with other players and can be used. When bought, replace [PLAYERNAME] with the player's name who bought it. If it is used, the user must choose one proposal or motion that they are currently voting for. Assuming this is the case, the vote coupon is destroyed, and [PLAYERNAME]'s vote automatically changes to align with the user on the chosen proposal or motion. In addition, [PLAYERNAME] may not change their own vote on chosen proposal or motion via any method, however other players may change [PLAYERNAME]'s vote.


I will grant Ircher the necessary funds to purchace this item should the motion go through.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:12 pm

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Proposal 325: Items can be bought from The Item Shop by posting in bold the following format, replacing [Amount] with the number of it item they want, and [ItemName] with the item to be purchased: Buy [Amount] [ItemName]


Might as well also provide a way to buy the damn things.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:19 pm

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VOTE: Yea 325
VOTE: Yea M002
It could possibly be rewritten; I had a bit of trouble parsing it.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:25 pm

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VOTE: Aye 325
VOTE: Aye M002
Is it possible to change one's vote btw?
Like could I still now say Nay 325 and it be binding

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