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[AliceK]

Hello everyone

I hope you have a wonderful weekend

[AliceK]

Alice, Marcistar. How are you two feeling on this wonderful morning/evening/daytime/night?

Very well. Thank you for asking. How about you?

[AliceK]

Hey Alice, remember that time you asked me if i’d buss both my teammates as scum and i answered no then proceeded to endgame as mafia?


GOOD TIMES~

Haha, very well played. I was suspecting you, but couldn't find good arguments to accuse you. Just hoped I was paranoid. Didn't happen.

[AliceK]

not to towntell, but this game started?

I think Jolyne is town for this. They did a very similar thing in Purgatory when they townslipped but then admitted they didn't read the setup to make them have a higher chance of townslipping and this is reminding me of that.

"Didn't read the setup" townslip is very dangerous as it is easy too fake.

[AliceK]

VOTE: darby

I don't like his posts.

[AliceK]

T3 is being voted a lot. Is there a meta reason for that? I can't find anything ai in his iso.

[AliceK]

I don't wanna see anyone acting stupid this game, or you'll have my unlimited fury poured into destroying you. When I have a solve, you'll LISTEN TO IT.

depends

VOTE: darby

I don't like his posts.

what dont u like about them

Comment about vig shot sounded fake. Almost like he tried very hard to act as uninformed as possible. This mindset comes from scum.

[AliceK]

I remember alice lurked whn I played with town her last.

It depends how many pages I need to read, if too many then I usually lost interest and lurk. Unless I find motivation to catch up somehow.

[AliceK]

I think one of the few posts that pinged me as sus earlier is Alice’s: "T3 is being voted a lot, is there an meta reason for that?" post.

The only way to get reads is to keep the very real threat of DEATH hanging over the heads of those that wish to mislead us.

PROVE ME WRONG.

VOTE: AliceK

Where is your head at ATM?

I see your point. I agree however I have a gut feeling that T3 is town and we should look somewhere else.

[AliceK]

alicek

you seem fine enough rn, but

Hey Alice, remember that time you asked me if i’d buss both my teammates as scum and i answered no then proceeded to endgame as mafia?


GOOD TIMES~

Haha, very well played. I was suspecting you, but couldn't find good arguments to accuse you. Just hoped I was paranoid. Didn't happen.

do you have any sort of read on norwegianboyee rn..? im curious if anything seems similar to that play you've seen from him, or if you have a townread on him..?

Not much yet. My belief is that people like norwegianboyee you caught in a later stage of the game as they are not doing many mistakes early. Nevertheless, I think in this game he is in "solving" attitude much earlier, so I would say a slight town-lean.

[AliceK]

Interesting Darby, Norwegianboy are not svs.

[AliceK]

Interesting Darby, Norwegianboy are not svs.

?
Did you have reason to think it would be?

Anyone can be scum and that helps me limit potential mafia teams. An observation for the future.

[AliceK]

val what do u think about the wagon on u..?

I think it makes a refreshing change from the "should we policy lim Not_Mafia?" discussion.

one-liners

it feels like scum you has a massive wim issue and can't find things to latch on to

That might be answer, but it's an answer to a different question. Others have pointed out that my opening to this game is obviously different to some previous games. That is fair. You accused me of "basically openwolfing" which is something quite different from "he has opened this game differently to the last game or two I've played with him", no?

I'll ask again, T3. Can you explain what scum agenda you think I am advancing here, and doing so in plain view?

I am actually curious as well. Can you explain why no walls?

[AliceK]

toxictaipan

im interested in ur input on this val stuff, do u mind giving some thoughts about that and anything else u may have thought of..?

The past 13 pages are exhausting. If I were Val and scum in this situation, I'd be giving some better replies, though. Town is looking for an excuse to lim him and the chip on the shoulder attitude might just be it. I think scum Val would realize this and not be so standoffish.

I think the interactions between DArby and NorwegianboyEE are much more interesting, but can't quite pin a read either way on the two yet.

That's not quite valid. You assume that as Town he would not try to get out of bad situation. Of course you may say there is more Townies than Mafia (more spare parts ), but still it doesn't mean that a one would just give up.

It's not Val post what you should look at.
Also it is not clear for me what DArby's alignment is, but there are better options for today.
UNVOTE:

[AliceK]

@Datisi. I would like to activate that special power I have now, please.

Target: NorwegianboyEE

Oh, so you are one of these who act scummy when get PR to avoid getting killed by Mafia at night and are super surprised when people vote them during the day.

[AliceK]

but there are better options for today.
UNVOTE:

like..?

Not_Mafia is for sure a better option.

But what is even better is to have a look at Val's wagon especially after this post:

That's E-2, in a game with Not_Mafia on the list. Just saying.

You all want me to play my Uno Reverse Card now?

which was a pr soft.

[AliceK]

"Act scummy."

I said Hi.

You sound smart. You could expect some problems if you usually open with a wall as Town.

[AliceK]

but there are better options for today.
UNVOTE:

like..?

Not_Mafia is for sure a better option.

why?

He is never a nk. He has 0 relations with anyone. For DArby I would for example never elim him if NorwegianBoyee flips scum.
Of course there is always a drawback if guy has no relations you don't know where to follow after the elim. It's not the best to go for lhf.

But what is even better is to have a look at Val's wagon especially after this post:

That's E-2, in a game with Not_Mafia on the list. Just saying.

You all want me to play my Uno Reverse Card now?

which was a pr soft.

so then who stands out of all his wagoners..?
do you think pr softs should always be believed..?

i can prob give some thoughts in a couple hrs i got some stuff i gotta do that ive been putting off

Passive observers, sheep... Didn't look into that as I had a lot of pages to catch up.
PR softs, always believing in them would be silly.

[AliceK]

You could expect some problems if you usually open with a wall as Town.

If you're in some noob games i guess.
Usually players that make genuine looking walls at the start and stay consistent with it are town.

Usually. There are always exceptions.

[AliceK]

I think NM can be read with time

Who will you vote now? I think you were voting Val.

[AliceK]

You could expect some problems if you usually open with a wall as Town.

If you're in some noob games i guess.
Usually players thatwith it are town.

Usually. There are always exceptions.

Is this little interaction supposed to be relevant to this game?

An example of my usual wall was given by Marci at 183. Does any think that, or any of the other examples given, could ever reasonably qualify as a "genuine looking wall"?

If not, what's the deal here?

I don't really care. But maybe have a look at the people in your wagon (or supporting) and find a one who knew that it is a push on a Townie.

[AliceK]

as an aside gamma is townlock for me atp
that's gonna be my only confident read D1 lol

Really? For me Gamma is actually really sus.

[AliceK]

lmao I joined at the same age dwlee. Big wall poster.

as an aside gamma is townlock for me atp
that's gonna be my only confident read D1 lol

Really? For me Gamma is actually really sus.

Have you played with Gamma?

No. Why you townread him?

[AliceK]

lmao I joined at the same age dwlee. Big wall poster.

as an aside gamma is townlock for me atp
that's gonna be my only confident read D1 lol

Really? For me Gamma is actually really sus.

Have you played with Gamma?

No. Why you townread him?

yes

viewtopic.php?p=13068227#p13068227

Yeah, I saw that. But how you expect him to play as scum.

[AliceK]

Norwee is likely innocent. Darby and Gamma have at least 1 scum.

However I am too lazy to elaborate on that so:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

[AliceK]

Pros of alice flip: spews gamma, me, darby, and NM as town
Cons: literally none(except if im wrong in which case that isnt a real scenario)

I think you just find my way of playing scummy. Let me know what it is. In our previous game it was the same.

[AliceK]

Norwee is likely innocent. Darby and Gamma have at least 1 scum.

However I am too lazy to elaborate on that so:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Alice trying to feed a 1v1 with people I feel are town already (sowing subtle doubt is a scum ploy/trying to force 5050s between townies) - and then after this they try to start a wagon on NM thats an easy way to dodge a lim themselves or norwee - who I believe is a strong possibility of partner - and bar that the plausibility remains when you factor in she may want to keep hands off the norwee wagon to not need to explain herself and look good off it - so it goes both ways here.

OK. But that doesn't explain your vote on me as I did all of it after you started pushing my elim.

Regarding Norwee I just think he is Town.
N_M slot should be dealt with asap.
Darby is likely a scum. About Gamma I scumread him, but I am not very confident about my read. Probably more days can give more intel.

[AliceK]

val or t3 will you join me and let not_mafia hammer
I forget whether toxic was in jolynes poe or not you can also join me
I can't promise results all I can promise is info but I thinkk it'll be juicy

Why are you trying to hammer toxic? His only sin is low activity.

[AliceK]

@Jolyne

I could work with you here, but why are you suggesting we start with AliceK over Norwee?

Because i have more confidence on alice

essentially it is alice>toxic>norwee atm

You are more confident than the last time you voted me off Day 1?

I agree with Val about toxic. He is just a lurker and from posts he made I am more inclined to believe he is Town.

[AliceK]

I don't think toxic is Mafia, because these 2 posts:

toxictaipan

im interested in ur input on this val stuff, do u mind giving some thoughts about that and anything else u may have thought of..?

The past 13 pages are exhausting. If I were Val and scum in this situation, I'd be giving some better replies, though. Town is looking for an excuse to lim him and the chip on the shoulder attitude might just be it. I think scum Val would realize this and not be so standoffish.

I think the interactions between DArby and NorwegianboyEE are much more interesting, but can't quite pin a read either way on the two yet.

Val was in quite bad spot. I don't think the low posting scum, would jump into the thread to provide arguments against elimination.

~ all members of the

mafia

are

backup ascetics

. they may or may not have additional roles and/or modifiers.

wwhats an ascetic..

Check your role pm

Lol but for real, though. I honestly don't know either.

He would need to fake a townslip. That isn't something very popular to do.

[AliceK]

I don't think toxic is Mafia, because these 2 posts:

toxictaipan

im interested in ur input on this val stuff, do u mind giving some thoughts about that and anything else u may have thought of..?

The past 13 pages are exhausting. If I were Val and scum in this situation, I'd be giving some better replies, though. Town is looking for an excuse to lim him and the chip on the shoulder attitude might just be it. I think scum Val would realize this and not be so standoffish.

I think the interactions between DArby and NorwegianboyEE are much more interesting, but can't quite pin a read either way on the two yet.

Val was in quite bad spot. I don't think the low posting scum, would jump into the thread to provide arguments against elimination.

~ all members of the

mafia

are

backup ascetics

. they may or may not have additional roles and/or modifiers.

wwhats an ascetic..

Check your role pm

Lol but for real, though. I honestly don't know either.

He would need to fake a townslip. That isn't something very popular to do.

Scum do both of the things you are saying they wouldn't do all the time. If you're town stop doing these bad defenses

I know they do, but Town do that 10 times more often.

So what toxic does what convinces you he isn't town.

[AliceK]

I think the second bit he could be genuinely confused scum about, basically no one understands ascetic at first glance

It should be in the role card. He can be a scum without this modifier.

Actually adding "lol", before asking for this looks fake. Maybe I need to revisit his iso.

[AliceK]

Dwlee99
Val89
redtea
NorwegianboyEE
Jolyne

marcistar pending explanation from Jolyne

Gamma Emerald
toxictaipan
AliceK
T3
DArby
Not_Mafia
camelCasedSnivy

Nvm I do have a solid poe for rn. Not quite game winning cause I need to find 1 more townie

That's actually decent.

[AliceK]

OK, actually toxic has high scum equity.
VOTE: toxic
I don't like that people like Darby and Gamma were/are in the wagon, but well maybe I am wrong about them.

[AliceK]

Why Alice though?

So far the only argument about my elim is that Jolyne has a gut feeling I am scum.

[AliceK]

OK, actually toxic has high scum equity.
VOTE: toxic
I don't like that people like Darby and Gamma were/are in the wagon, but well maybe I am wrong about them.

VOTE: alicek
no attacking toxic :<

nah but actually: i dont mind sheeping redtea here becuz i find it weird how the second they vote u u decide to change ur mind on toxic, not earlier.
"oh shit nvm guys now that i have a vote lets just do the easy elim!#1!!1"

I actually changed it when someone criticized my townread on him. I realized the tone how toxic commented about game mechanics, also checked his later posts.

[AliceK]

Just rep them.
They’re literally useless.

+1

[AliceK]

Just rep them.
They’re literally useless.

+1

Not sure why he wasn't wotc'd.

[AliceK]

Like what’s the point in joining a game of deduction if you’re not going to even attempt to be readable.

It's actually a pretty smart strategy, just not a fun one
Normally why I try to be scummy when I'm town, since I'm really scummy when I'm scum

You policy lim these kind of players and I think the only reason why we are not doing that is that there will be a replacement who can make slot more readable.

[AliceK]

so I apparently only wrote down one of my thoughts which was that

Norwee is likely innocent

. Darby and Gamma have at least 1 scum.

However I am too lazy to elaborate on that so:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

the bolded part sounded tmi.

So I looked into it a bit more real quick. It's not a word I see used elsewhere in the iso (nor the abbreviated version), and almost no reason is given for townreading norwee except one post early on about how norwee "seems to be solving". Given the frequent interactions with norwee's posts, after being asked about norwee again later, I would expect something like "I agree with them a lot, I don't think they're misdirecting me, their thought process is sound, etc" but like. No. Just "norwee is town". Which makes me think Alice doesn't actually have a reason except for knowing it. Also makes me think they aren't partnered, because then I would expect more effort.

Srry that's all I have without doing more isoing

I just played with Norwee recently where he rolled scum. That's meta read

[AliceK]

so I apparently only wrote down one of my thoughts which was that

Norwee is likely innocent

. Darby and Gamma have at least 1 scum.

However I am too lazy to elaborate on that so:
VOTE: Not_Mafia

the bolded part sounded tmi.

So I looked into it a bit more real quick. It's not a word I see used elsewhere in the iso (nor the abbreviated version), and almost no reason is given for townreading norwee except one post early on about how norwee "seems to be solving". Given the frequent interactions with norwee's posts, after being asked about norwee again later, I would expect something like "I agree with them a lot, I don't think they're misdirecting me, their thought process is sound, etc" but like. No. Just "norwee is town". Which makes me think Alice doesn't actually have a reason except for knowing it. Also makes me think they aren't partnered, because then I would expect more effort.

Srry that's all I have without doing more isoing

I just played with Norwee recently where he rolled scum. That's meta read

[AliceK]

wut
Also wanna know what’s on marci’s mind regarding me bcuz she posted my name with a crying emote and then ghosted me when I asked about it

i think ur HELLA townie
im just sad cuz i want u to carry us

That's quite funny.

[AliceK]

UNVOTE:

Dwlee, who is scum?

Why ask him in particular? Is he that good in scum hunting?

[AliceK]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Nothing has changed.

[AliceK]

Ah, thank
I’ll see what I can do, I’m not really shaken from my PoE from before so T3/NM/cCS are all good votes rn

Is it your scum team?

[AliceK]

VOTE: Not_Mafia
Nothing has changed.

Yeah, I’m still town

You are not doing anything to prove that, so why should I believe you. You fit to any Mafia team.

[AliceK]

I am rapidly losing patience with Alice pushing me like this.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
For now.

I am voting not Mafia right now.

[AliceK]

I am rapidly losing patience with Alice pushing me like this.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
For now.

I am voting not Mafia right now.

Oh, you misunderstood me. I asked if you think all 3 people are Mafia.

[AliceK]

Miswording on my part. I'm willing to compromise on Alice, but I'd prefer you.

If i were to flip scum, where would you go next? And who do you think are potential partners so far?

He is either scum or manipulated by comunists.

[AliceK]

Wat?

Bad joke. Sorry for that.

[AliceK]

I can vote anyone from Gamma Emerald/Dwlee99/Not_Mafia today.

[AliceK]

I can vote anyone from Gamma Emerald/Dwlee99/Not_Mafia today.

Gamma and Dwlee are scums for sure. But I am not convinced by Not_Mafia. Could be T3 instead.

[AliceK]

Hold up a second, why am i scum Jolyne?

If he is scum, then still partners are between Gamma, Dwlee, Not_Mafia. For sure not you, Darby, marci and red. Camel and T3 are also unlikely.

[AliceK]

gamma should be next after norwee flips red btw

And if not?

[AliceK]

gamma should be next after norwee flips red btw

And if not?

I can vote Norwegianboyee if we lim gamma next day regardless of flip.

We can sacrafice 2 more villagers. Can be Norwee, because he is not doing well with solving the game anyway. And there is a very small chance that he is mafia.

[AliceK]

How did Alice get from this:

Dwlee99
Val89
redtea
NorwegianboyEE
Jolyne

marcistar pending explanation from Jolyne

Gamma Emerald
toxictaipan
AliceK
T3
DArby
Not_Mafia
camelCasedSnivy

Nvm I do have a solid poe for rn. Not quite game winning cause I need to find 1 more townie

That's actually decent.

to this:

I can vote anyone from Gamma Emerald/Dwlee99/Not_Mafia today.

?
She has no progression laid out anywhere. Was she this horrible at explaining reads in 2232?

Neh, that is just gut feeling based on interactions.

[AliceK]

Ah, thank
I’ll see what I can do, I’m not really shaken from my PoE from before so T3/NM/cCS are all good votes rn

Is it your scum team?

I am rapidly losing patience with Alice pushing me like this.
VOTE: camelCasedSnivy
For now.

I am voting not Mafia right now.

Oh, you misunderstood me. I asked if you think all 3 people are Mafia.

I think this was Alice knowing town was in the pool of T3/NM/cCS and asking leading questions based on that

Let’s note despite professing more confidence on me and Dwlee being scum at one point, she sits voting NM.

Neh, this was Alice completely not buying your scumpool.

[AliceK]

Am i the only one that thinks it’s fishy how both T3 and Alice seem to be reverting or questioning their townreads on me since after day 1?
I’m pretty sure T3 was a lot more confident on day 1 than to just casually say: "actually i’m not sure why i townread Norwee" >_>

Hmm, no I always townread you.

[AliceK]

That's surprising ngl
VOTE: Norwegianboyee

I will explain my reads later. They are quite complex... and it's middle of night for me.

[AliceK]

I will never forgive any of you for rush limming norwee while i was away

I don't think it would change anything. Jolyne's claim was solid. However, it was either a lie or Mafia has a roleblocker who targeted Jolyne.

Second option unfortunately is not really unlikely.

[AliceK]

About my reads on Gamma/Dwlee/Not_Mafia. It is based on interactions between each other.

I need to go right now, but I will elaborate about more in about 8 hours.

[AliceK]

How is the claim solid with possible, now known, roleblockers in play? Did you receive a letter?

We now know there was at least a town roleblocker. Thinking about it during N2, I was sure mafia would have one, but now I'm not sure considering the likelihood of a town roleblocker hitting town.

Solid because a roleblocker targeting Jolyne N2 is still not very likely. Still mafia roleblocker makes sense, so I am not ignoring this possibility.

Marci didn't block Jolyne, otherwise she would stop the lim.

[AliceK]

I don't mind eliminating Jolyne, however I would like to solve the game today. There is a chance that Jolyne is something like vt who fakeclaimed mailman to get Norwee eliminated...

[AliceK]

Alright bet. Gimme your reads then. Who else do you think is scum?

I would say Gamma and Dwelee. I tracked their actions and reads and it seems it is a very simple agenda. Townread good players, scumread bad players and opportunistically jump onto good player wagon.

It's funny that a lot of people are scumreading bad plays when they usually come from Town being too proactive.

[AliceK]

vote count 3.01

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-11-08 08:30:00).

yeet

AliceK [1]:

redtea

not voting [8]:

Gamma Emerald, AliceK, T3, DArby, Jolyne, Dwlee99, Not_Mafia, camelCasedSnivy

mod notes

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flavour

I'm doing this cause rereading the "you're mafia for not getting my message" makes absolutely no sense and I trust town!koba to uh not be that ridiculous (in this way at least lol)
VOTE: Jolyne

lmao funny you say this

I holstered tonight because of the scum roleblocker
i am a 2 shot mailman

VOTE: dwlee

Why you didn't use your ability Day 1?

[AliceK]

I am actually really surprised that N_M iso is better than camel's iso.

I didn't realize it is possible. N_M set the bar high.

[AliceK]

I don't mind eliminating Jolyne, however I would like to solve the game today. There is a chance that Jolyne is something like vt who fakeclaimed mailman to get Norwee eliminated...

And why would Jo do that
I don’t rate them as someone to pull a stunt like that
It also seemed more like either a real claim or a planned scum stratagem than something a town pulled out

If you are very confident someone is scum, you can fakeclaim like that, but it can obviosuly backfire really fast.

[AliceK]

I think we should look in nm/toxic/t3 here because that's the bottom of my poe rn

Neh, it doesn't make sense... toxic and N_M have no agenda to scumread from. In best case scenario it is 50/50 as I doubt both are Mafia. If you planned to go for a lhf you should plan it before we yeeted 2 Townies.

[AliceK]

I think we should look in nm/toxic/t3 here because that's the bottom of my poe rn

Neh, it doesn't make sense... toxic and N_M have no agenda to scumread from. In best case scenario it is 50/50 as I doubt both are Mafia. If you planned to go for a lhf you should plan it before we yeeted 2 Townies.

Actually is it your agenda? You, Dwelee and Gamma plan to miselim in T3/toxic/N_M?

[AliceK]

I think we should look in nm/toxic/t3 here because that's the bottom of my poe rn

Neh, it doesn't make sense... toxic and N_M have no agenda to scumread from. In best case scenario it is 50/50 as I doubt both are Mafia. If you planned to go for a lhf you should plan it before we yeeted 2 Townies.

Actually is it your agenda? You, Dwelee and Gamma plan to miselim in T3/toxic/N_M?

You have the same pool as Gamma, I need to check possibility of you two be in the team.

[AliceK]

I think we should look in nm/toxic/t3 here because that's the bottom of my poe rn

Neh, it doesn't make sense... toxic and N_M have no agenda to scumread from. In best case scenario it is 50/50 as I doubt both are Mafia. If you planned to go for a lhf you should plan it before we yeeted 2 Townies.

Actually is it your agenda? You, Dwelee and Gamma plan to miselim in T3/toxic/N_M?

Neh, that's impossible team. Gamma mentioned that you three are working together. It doesn't feel like someone who played carefully and decided to not collapse on Norwee Day 1 is revealing scum team in one sentence.

[AliceK]

My hero solve rn is Jolyne/t3/Darby

Jolyne for duh reasons

T3 is chainsawing for Jolyne hella hard and his read on me is nonsense

DArby came into today ready to vote Jolyne pretty hard but is slowly posturing to hop off the wagon despite Jolyne ignoring my posts and their thought process around yesterday being total BS

Do you want to claim something?

[AliceK]

Dwlee what is your role?

[AliceK]

Dwlee what is your role?

If I claimed a guilty on Jolyne would you vote them?

If I believe you then yes.

[AliceK]

im just saying if im scum i would have already self hammered here for low info

Yeah, unless you are doing scum theatre with Dwlee. I think at least 1 of you is Mafia.

[AliceK]

im just saying if im scum i would have already self hammered here for low info

Yeah, unless you are doing scum theatre with Dwlee. I think at least 1 of you is Mafia.

i dont think dwlee is mafia

So who is Mafia? Give me 3 names.

[AliceK]

So it is basically Jolyne vs Dwlee. Or both.

[AliceK]

If we lim Jolyne and she is scum. It basically locks me as night kill.

[AliceK]

Hey, can someone give me a quick rundown of major events in this game? Have some other things I need to check as well.

Cute avatar.

[AliceK]

I am obviously Town. Cleared by Darby and Jolyne. T3 is spewed Town by Jolyne.

Dwlee for sure should live till P3. Jolyne played very poorly, so I am actually suspecting she was setting up something. Softing Checker to claim Mailman? Makes no sense. Dwlee can be a deepwolf here, but still that is a very long shot, I would forget about it.

Imo it is Gamma + Not_Mafia.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[AliceK]

Anyone wants to claim PR? Now it is the time.

[AliceK]

Hey, can someone give me a quick rundown of major events in this game? Have some other things I need to check as well.

Just start with page 55, you will cover most of the relevant information.

[AliceK]

Anyway
VOTE: t3
Still think it is this
Play around Koba was awful and I think the best way to catch t3 is through associatives

Here is where you want to vote, hmmm... So you think Jolyne didn't jump on T3 wagon Day 1 and 2, but only on Day 3 when she was about to by lynched to distance herself?

[AliceK]

Anyway
VOTE: t3
Still think it is this
Play around Koba was awful and I think the best way to catch t3 is through associatives

And who would be a scum with t3?

[AliceK]

So it is basically Jolyne vs Dwlee. Or both.

Seriously?

How much experience you have? 6 years? Yeah, you could definitely do that kind of busing.

[AliceK]

I figure scum (probably Koba based on their reaction) realized that I wasn't actually a checker cause I didn't enter day immediately calling for Koba's head

Just Koba softing checker doesn't make much sense.

[AliceK]

I actually think that Gamma is a good elim for today. Jolyne s gambit doesn't make sense if both of her partners were in camel/not Mafia/t3

[AliceK]

I’m pretty much not gonna engage Alice because she seems dedicated to doing scum’s job for them

Please do. Why you think I am doing scum's job for them?

[AliceK]

Yeah you convinced me T3 is scum. No intention to solve the game on the edge of elim is definitely not a town attitude. He is afraid of revealing his partner.
UNVOTE:
The problem is that poe is too wide. T3/Gamma/Strange/Chaos

Don't try to convince me Gamma is Towny.

[AliceK]

Hmm, ok let's elim T3. If somehow he is not scum just go for Gamma, Dwlee. I still think fancy busing took place.
VOTE: T3

[AliceK]

One more to eliminate t3 let's gooooo

Do you wanna claim something t3

Right... Probably there is a one more PR, so looks like Dwlee is legit. Unless someone didn't claim when asked.

[AliceK]

T3 flipped Town what a surprise...
VOTE: Gamma

[AliceK]

T3 flipped Town what a surprise...
VOTE: Gamma

Alice if you weren't conftown I'd think your t3 read was TMI because he was scummy af

He was playing bad, not trying at all, it doesn't mean he was scum. If he tried to create a conter wagon at least it would provide some information.

TMI, heh... Acutally, sometimes not saying everything you know is a good strategy, if you have crazy deduction skills it can be read as tmi.

[AliceK]

Hmm, I am alive so I will revisit all remianing people isos.
UNVOTE:

[AliceK]

I don't say everything I know

So what you are not telling us? Are you Mafia and would like to confess?

[AliceK]

Since it's D5 I'll just claim it was me who blocked the NK on Alice.
D1 protect was Val bc I'm fucking dumb and only remembered the IC part of his role and not the ascetic part.
N2 target was gamma.
N3 target was Darby WHO ENDED UP BEING MACHO god
N4 of course was Alice.

Why you hold with your claim till now? You should know that it doesn't matter if I die or not.

[AliceK]

Why would I claim before now?
Also of course itd matter if you died.

I consider no lim tbh to check if red will be able to protect me again.

[AliceK]

Ok I will yolo vote Gamma. What's the case on Chaos?

[AliceK]

Well from last few pages I can say for sure Commander and Dwlee are not svs

[AliceK]

Well from last few pages I can say for sure Commander and Dwlee are not svs

Progress!

So from your PoV scum is in Dwlee, Gamma, Matter, and Myself.

Then me and Dwlee has at least one town in it.

Go on, what do you need next?

I am actually too lazy to do more Yeah pick a guy both of you and I will decide who to vote out of your picks

[AliceK]

I'm going for Gamma/Dwlee. I hope a pog play from scums happened in this game.
VOTE: Gamma

[AliceK]

Vote Gamma, let's speedrun this.