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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:22 pm

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I go to book an Airbnb for TWO MINUTES
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:25 pm

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What do you both make of recent conversation?
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:26 pm

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In post 2215, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 2211, Firebringer wrote:im really sick now.
v/la till friday
Feel better.
I'd like to think this is a threat.
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:27 pm

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What recent conversation?? :lol:

Do you really think I'd read what people were saying while waiting for a Parachute?

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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:29 pm

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Oh damn I missed it by 6 minutes. Oh well.
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:30 pm

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In post 2303, Almost50 wrote:What recent conversation?? :lol:

Do you really think I'd read what people were saying while waiting for a Parachute?
I mean before the parachute stuff. The fighting.
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:30 pm

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Toogeloo replaces Ydrasse
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:31 pm

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In post 2306, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Toogeloo replaces Ydrasse
This is not a parachute and I am sad
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:32 pm

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As I told Pooky, I'm not reading or doing anything until tomorrow at the earliest. I just finished travelling cross country and just want to sleep. I'll dip in tomorrow.
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:35 pm

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In post 2308, Toogeloo wrote:As I told Pooky, I'm not reading or doing anything until tomorrow at the earliest. I just finished travelling cross country and just want to sleep. I'll dip in tomorrow.
Reading might want to be your second priority.

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Take Parachute
after as fast as possible
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:42 pm

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In post 2309, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2308, Toogeloo wrote:As I told Pooky, I'm not reading or doing anything until tomorrow at the earliest. I just finished travelling cross country and just want to sleep. I'll dip in tomorrow.
Reading might want to be your second priority.

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Take Parachute
after as fast as possible
Oh and you have to quote the post
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:50 pm

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This is a parachute
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:50 pm

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In post 2311, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:This is a parachute
Take Parachute for Loki Dokie
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:52 pm

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1 minute late jesus christ
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:52 pm

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In post 2298, MathBlade wrote:Well played A50
wow you're proud of him but not me

that's okay i'm the one with 2 parachutes :cool:
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:53 pm

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if u didn't take that, i would've gotten it. hmph
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:56 pm

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In post 2314, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 2298, MathBlade wrote:Well played A50
wow you're proud of him but not me

that's okay i'm the one with 2 parachutes :cool:
Correct. Because I can see the protown strategy of what A50 is doing I think.
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:02 pm

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Which is
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:03 pm

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Can you please complete the sentence?
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:06 pm

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You heard me
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:07 pm

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In post 2319, Save The Dragons wrote:You heard me
I read the text but I do not understand the question being asked
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:08 pm

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What is the strategy
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:09 pm

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In post 2321, Save The Dragons wrote:What is the strategy
Not sure it’s good to say yet but I think I see it.
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:12 pm

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Alright well I finally had time to do this. Here is what I could find vis a vis proof that Koba has been OMGUSing. Maybe OMGUS is not the exact right word - what I set out to do here is look for evidence that Koba's reads were disproportionately based on whether that person agreed with them or not. Nothing to do with whether that person scumread Koba or not, which I think is the traditional definition of OMGUS?

Also I see that I missed out on a couple of parachutes. Can I just say that I really do think this event is dumb. I get the general idea is to rely on your team and hope they choose to give you chutes if you're not on in time, but something really rubs me the wrong way about basically punishing people for having lives outside of this website.

Anyway:

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ISOing in a large theme is hard. Idk if I'll do this again. Definitely started to lose focus near the middle up to the end.

Spoiler: Koba's ISO (a bit wall-y)
In post 48, DkKoba wrote:dwlee is scum
Probably not very conf because of how early it is, maybe even completely non-serious. But Dwlee had recently asked MT to use heal tags right after Koba said we should slow down and not pick a team right away.
In post 69, DkKoba wrote:
ydrasse also binning as scum
Ydrasse was trying to rush team forming.
In post 71, DkKoba wrote:I like MT number and darby for town rn -> number is my strongest atm
MT, Darby, and myself had mostly been agreeing with Koba's mech analysis and thoughts on how to proceed up to this point.
In post 138, DkKoba wrote:
In post 129, numberQ wrote:Well I have to get ready for trick or treaters + replacing a toilet, and I need to focus so I don't get the two mixed up by accident. Parting words for now, since I predict there will be 10 more pages before I'm back, our first step should be figuring out captains. And I think to get the ball rolling, maybe everyone who WANTS to be a captain should just vote themselves now so we get an accounting of it and discussion falls out of that and etc

I'll start,

VOTE: numberQ

pedit Koba: I'm pretty sure the rules say you can't unvote from a captain if they have already been determined to be a captain. So if we all vote MT we're stuck, and scum form 3 teams.
no - once MT chooses a team we're free
First instance of disagreeing with someone without immediately scumreading them, but there is eventually a scumread so.
In post 149, DkKoba wrote:mindmelding with MT
Mind melding with a TR
In post 206, DkKoba wrote:binning nora entrance into poe territory
All Nora had done by then was vote themselves for captain - which was against Koba's grand plan.
In post 257, DkKoba wrote:nora lockscum for uh
dunno if I can say LOL but ill drop it in postgame 4 sure
I believe this is referring to Nora's "scumslip", so not directly related to any kind of OMGUS apart from Nora having already disagreed with Koba before.
In post 490, DkKoba wrote:also gut read norwee scum here so far

i have another townread too
Norwee at this point has posted a lot of fluff. One of his few contentful posts was disagreeing with Koba about being able to read Fire.
In post 575, DkKoba wrote:people pushing rushing are always >rand scum btw.

Scum hate having to towntell over a longer period of time
Soft scumreads literally everyone who disagrees with them.
In post 578, DkKoba wrote:nevermind i see why loki said that now

i still think number town but holy shit why are rands always so bad for me in these kinds of games where the townies are the worst to work with and easily trust obvscum trying to manipulate the gamestate into a low info state
Outlier in my theory, here they apparently still townread me despite several posts disagreeing me. Again though, they eventually do scumread me.
In post 963, DkKoba wrote:
In post 951, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 950, WhemeStar wrote:
WhemeStar has replaced WhemeStar


Hi hello there who wants to catch me up im not reading 38 pages of meme
*taps head* smart, smart

Gamma Emerald is town
Loftwing is idk
SirCakez/Mathblade is idk
Dkkoba is town
Morning Tweet is a bat
Loki Dokie is town
Save the Dragons is idk slight town
Mama Ru is idk
Firebringer is town
Whemestar is idk
Ydrasse is maybe slight town
tictac is town
DArby is town
RCEnigma is idk
DaTacoX is maybe slight scum
NorwegianboyEE is idk maybe slight scum
Almost50 is maybe slight scum
Spamton is again maybe slight scum
dwlee99 is lean town
Noraa is scum
NumberQ is town

or in a readable format:

Town: Gamma Emerald, DkKoba, Morning Tweet, Loki Dokie, Firebringer, tictac, D'Arby, numberQ
Lean Town: Ydrasse, Save The Dragons, Dwlee99
Idk: Loftwing, SirCakes/MathBlade, Mama Ru, Whemestar, RCEngima
Scumish: DaTacoX, Almost50, Spamton, Noraa

something like dat

u can trust me and my reads dont worry
Town: MT, Loki Dokie, tictac, D'Arby, numberQ
Lean Town: Dwlee99, Mama Ru, Whemestar, Firebringer(surprise), Gamma Emerald

Haven't read any of there content enough to say either way:Loftwing, DaTacoX, Save The Dragons
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What I have read makes me not townread them: Spamton, RCEngima, SirCakes/MathBlade
Actively scumreading:, Almost50, Noraa, Ydrasse
Townreads MT, also has very very similar reads list to MT.
In post 1050, DkKoba wrote:maybe ydrasse town .
Idk where this is coming from. Seems to be in response to Ydrasse talking about meta? Fitting this read into my theory is a stretch I think. Another outlier.
In post 1055, DkKoba wrote:i think i can move ydrasse out of "actively scumreading" to "no reason to townread" tier. which doesnt change her place as bottom 6 in my PoE but it is a notable difference to me.
Read as, "Ydrasse is no longer actively disagreeing with me"?
In post 1092, DkKoba wrote:retracting my tr on number
I disagreed that Nora was scum, and suggested Loki might not be town.
In post 1755, DkKoba wrote:Hm maybe nora is town
The posts leading up to this one, Koba had been talking to Math about how him saying he can't figure out reads is just making excuses. Then Nora comes out and builds a case against Math for using AtE while saying he can't figure out reads. And suddenly Koba says this after hard, hard scumreading Nora for a while.
In post 2136, DkKoba wrote:amazing how right on queue the scummiest people are just concerned with getting parachutes for eachother and completely ignore the townblock wanting to restrict who gets them so we can use this phase as an elimination

to the townblock: there will probably be about 1-4 people who die from this. pooky (hopefully) learned his lesson with chess mafia with accelerating the game too much.

we should policy people who are in the consensus PoE who intentionally greedily take parachutes before towny people can.
"scummiest people" = "people who disagree with Koba"
"townblock" = "people who agree with Koba"


Summary: Koba almost never scumreads someone they agree with or townreads someone they disagree with. The few times there's an explanation given for a read, it's based entirely on meta or entirely on gut (see Nora read change). When it's not for one of those two reasons, it's because that person agreed or disagreed with them.

I didn't really go into this trying to scumread Koba, just point that their reads are not the end all be all and constantly scumreading people who disagree with them is actively detrimental to the game. But I think I can agree with Norwee here, there's definitely some strong-arming going on here, and LAMIST. I can see scum in this slot taking a loud role in the town.
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:16 pm

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That’s way too many words to read right now. Lol
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