Squid Game! Game Over!

[MathBlade]

VOTE: FB + S_S

I'm here to chew bubble gum and sheep town reads, and I'm all outta bubblegum.

Might want to make this for one player in the pair since we have one vote to make VCs easier. Plus it also forces you to pick who is scummier of the two which is golden for reads.

[MathBlade]

NumberQ died during Event Four! He was aligned with the

Mafia

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Shocker, eh?

I would like to take the chance to remind everybody of my case on FB. Him grabbing a parachute for Spamton was him denying a stronger Town player from getting one, and his double failed attempts to grab it was him giving NumberQ the chance to get his.

Also, as I theorized before, FB waiting for Wheme to get him THEN going for none for Spamton was done to make them both look bad when/if he flipped. Same plan Mama Ru tried to trick me into, except I didn't fall for it and eventually the "Mama's not getting a parachute because she doesn't have the time for this" had to find the time and get herself one.

I will review this section. Same thing for you for your vote.

[Firebringer]

elephants never forget

[DkKoba]

If scum really got to choose, why wouldn't they take the opportunity to kill someone townread like MT or Loki? Noraa was probably going to die eventually, even if not immediately.

(Also, if you're town, wouldn't it benefit scum to leave Noraa alive so they can keep tunneling you...?)

No. That’s a bad scum kill because that would confirm the player that was widely townread is town. Those kills are bad.

And yes Noraa could have been left alive and tunnel me but then scum risk me towntelling later and blowing the plan apart.

We don’t know how we’re going to eventually eliminate scum do the more focus is not on them they’re winning.

Oh wait, I also wanted to say that this post is so blatant to me. I'm very happy with who I targeted last night and I think Noraa was on the money with her Math read.

math town math town

^ cmon firebringer explain how this person is paired with me

[DkKoba]

wait wrong post

[Firebringer]

im sorry koba i didn't read rest of ur post something about how u can't be scum because numbers pushed u.
and i should care about this because

[DkKoba]

Alright well I finally had time to do this. Here is what I could find vis a vis proof that Koba has been OMGUSing. Maybe OMGUS is not the exact right word - what I set out to do here is look for evidence that Koba's reads were disproportionately based on whether that person agreed with them or not. Nothing to do with whether that person scumread Koba or not, which I think is the traditional definition of OMGUS?

Also I see that I missed out on a couple of parachutes. Can I just say that I really do think this event is dumb. I get the general idea is to rely on your team and hope they choose to give you chutes if you're not on in time, but something really rubs me the wrong way about basically punishing people for having lives outside of this website.

Anyway:

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ISOing in a large theme is hard. Idk if I'll do this again. Definitely started to lose focus near the middle up to the end.

Spoiler: Koba's ISO (a bit wall-y)

dwlee is scum

Probably not very conf because of how early it is, maybe even completely non-serious. But Dwlee had recently asked MT to use heal tags right after Koba said we should slow down and not pick a team right away.

Up!

ydrasse also binning as scum

Ydrasse was trying to rush team forming.

I like MT number and darby for town rn -> number is my strongest atm

MT, Darby, and myself had mostly been agreeing with Koba's mech analysis and thoughts on how to proceed up to this point.

Well I have to get ready for trick or treaters + replacing a toilet, and I need to focus so I don't get the two mixed up by accident. Parting words for now, since I predict there will be 10 more pages before I'm back, our first step should be figuring out captains. And I think to get the ball rolling, maybe everyone who WANTS to be a captain should just vote themselves now so we get an accounting of it and discussion falls out of that and etc

I'll start,

VOTE: numberQ

pedit Koba: I'm pretty sure the rules say you can't unvote from a captain if they have already been determined to be a captain. So if we all vote MT we're stuck, and scum form 3 teams.

no - once MT chooses a team we're free

First instance of disagreeing with someone without immediately scumreading them, but there is eventually a scumread so.

mindmelding with MT

Mind melding with a TR

binning nora entrance into poe territory

All Nora had done by then was vote themselves for captain - which was against Koba's grand plan.

nora lockscum for uh
dunno if I can say LOL but ill drop it in postgame 4 sure

I believe this is referring to Nora's "scumslip", so not directly related to any kind of OMGUS apart from Nora having already disagreed with Koba before.

also gut read norwee scum here so far

i have another townread too

Norwee at this point has posted a lot of fluff. One of his few contentful posts was disagreeing with Koba about being able to read Fire.

people pushing rushing are always >rand scum btw.

Scum hate having to towntell over a longer period of time

Soft scumreads literally everyone who disagrees with them.

nevermind i see why loki said that now

i still think number town but holy shit why are rands always so bad for me in these kinds of games where the townies are the worst to work with and easily trust obvscum trying to manipulate the gamestate into a low info state

Outlier in my theory, here they apparently still townread me despite several posts disagreeing me. Again though, they eventually do scumread me.

WhemeStar has replaced WhemeStar

Hi hello there who wants to catch me up im not reading 38 pages of meme

*taps head* smart, smart

Gamma Emerald is town
Loftwing is idk
SirCakez/Mathblade is idk
Dkkoba is town
Morning Tweet is a bat
Loki Dokie is town
Save the Dragons is idk slight town
Mama Ru is idk
Firebringer is town
Whemestar is idk
Ydrasse is maybe slight town
tictac is town
DArby is town
RCEnigma is idk
DaTacoX is maybe slight scum
NorwegianboyEE is idk maybe slight scum
Almost50 is maybe slight scum
Spamton is again maybe slight scum
dwlee99 is lean town
Noraa is scum
NumberQ is town

or in a readable format:

Town: Gamma Emerald, DkKoba, Morning Tweet, Loki Dokie, Firebringer, tictac, D'Arby, numberQ
Lean Town: Ydrasse, Save The Dragons, Dwlee99
Idk: Loftwing, SirCakes/MathBlade, Mama Ru, Whemestar, RCEngima
Scumish: DaTacoX, Almost50, Spamton, Noraa

something like dat

u can trust me and my reads dont worry

Town: MT, Loki Dokie, tictac, D'Arby, numberQ
Lean Town: Dwlee99, Mama Ru, Whemestar, Firebringer(surprise), Gamma Emerald

Haven't read any of there content enough to say either way:Loftwing, DaTacoX, Save The Dragons
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What I have read makes me not townread them: Spamton, RCEngima, SirCakes/MathBlade
Actively scumreading:, Almost50, Noraa, Ydrasse

Townreads MT, also has very very similar reads list to MT.

maybe ydrasse town .

Idk where this is coming from. Seems to be in response to Ydrasse talking about meta? Fitting this read into my theory is a stretch I think. Another outlier.

i think i can move ydrasse out of "actively scumreading" to "no reason to townread" tier. which doesnt change her place as bottom 6 in my PoE but it is a notable difference to me.

Read as, "Ydrasse is no longer actively disagreeing with me"?

retracting my tr on number

I disagreed that Nora was scum, and suggested Loki might not be town.

Hm maybe nora is town

The posts leading up to this one, Koba had been talking to Math about how him saying he can't figure out reads is just making excuses. Then Nora comes out and builds a case against Math for using AtE while saying he can't figure out reads. And suddenly Koba says this after hard, hard scumreading Nora for a while.

amazing how right on queue the scummiest people are just concerned with getting parachutes for eachother and completely ignore the townblock wanting to restrict who gets them so we can use this phase as an elimination

to the townblock: there will probably be about 1-4 people who die from this. pooky (hopefully) learned his lesson with chess mafia with accelerating the game too much.

we should policy people who are in the consensus PoE who intentionally greedily take parachutes before towny people can.

"scummiest people" = "people who disagree with Koba"
"townblock" = "people who agree with Koba"

Summary: Koba almost never scumreads someone they agree with or townreads someone they disagree with. The few times there's an explanation given for a read, it's based entirely on meta or entirely on gut (see Nora read change). When it's not for one of those two reasons, it's because that person agreed or disagreed with them.

I didn't really go into this trying to scumread Koba, just point that their reads are not the end all be all and constantly scumreading people who disagree with them is actively detrimental to the game. But I think I can agree with Norwee here, there's definitely some strong-arming going on here, and LAMIST. I can see scum in this slot taking a loud role in the town.

also MF TRIED TO BURY ME IM CONF TOWN AS FUCK

[Almost50]

OK.. I'm off to bed for real now, but I -at least- can sleep well because I nailed Scum on this one (I lost TWO games at the start of the day. Well, one didn't count but still..)

[DkKoba]

he didnt just push me he tried to discredit me at every turn

[DkKoba]

OK.. I'm off to bed for real now, but I -at least- can sleep well because I nailed Scum on this one (I lost TWO games at the start of the day. Well, one didn't count but still..)

good work, we doing well 2 games in a row

[Firebringer]

yeah that means nothing

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Event

Four:

Dance War Part II !

Votecount:

3 - Firebringer / Something_Smart (DkKoba, Almost50, Toogeloo)
1 - DkKoba / Enchant (Firebringer)


With 16 alive it requires 9 votes to remove a pair

[MathBlade]

he didnt just push me he tried to discredit me at every turn

I so feel this. Like I feel pretty vindicated my theory scum pushing me was spot on.

Oh rip. Guess Pooky does the voting in an awesome way ignore the split vote thing.

[Firebringer]

he didnt just push me he tried to discredit me at every turn

no he didnt

[RCEnigma]

I think all of Koba/MT/Wheme/Loki are spewed town from the number flip. Possibly tictac as well. I'll go into it if I have to here but just looking at even the beginning of their iso it kind of jumps out.

[Firebringer]

I think all of Koba/MT/Wheme/Loki are spewed town from the number flip. Possibly tictac as well. I'll go into it if I have to here but just looking at even the beginning of their iso it kind of jumps out.

Wrongooooooo

[MathBlade]

(expired on 2021-11-11 21:50:45)

I forget how to do 3.5 days on my phone but this is the unofficial oh shit worry countdown if no one is blown up by then.

[RCEnigma]

FB why do you scumread Koba? With specifics.

[Firebringer]

FB why do you scumread Koba? With specifics.

ive laid out my case before and not much has changed.
numbers flipping literally changes nothing except koba is also bussing here

>Wanted control of teams/groups since beginning but also stepped aside to pretend not taking control
>Pretends doesn't want a parachute then pockets hard dwlee all to show "validation for reads"
>Pretends wants to suicide on Norwee then now flips on "ohh i actually just softened on this person" lol like what.

I am shocked this gets townread and people think koba is town.

[MathBlade]

I think all of Koba/MT/Wheme/Loki are spewed town from the number flip. Possibly tictac as well. I'll go into it if I have to here but just looking at even the beginning of their iso it kind of jumps out.

I would like you to go into this please. Koba/MT/Wheme/Loki/A50/Me/you is 7 people and 16 alive that means 9 people 5 scum so like that’s most of the game if true.

[RCEnigma]

It'll have to be after my shift and I'll probably get tic-tacs take on it first.

That said what do you think Scum!Numbers reaction would be to an all town team forming out of the gate?

Just as food for thought.

[Firebringer]

this is supposed to be chill relax game but im actually pretty annoyed with how some people just seem to have "FB is wrong because its FB" syndrome

also the conspiracy theories going on how i planned shit by faking to get chutes/stealing chutes so not better townread people get them (instead spamton gets it)

which btw i thought spamton was probably the scum person in my team and i blame u all for shitting on me for making that call to make me think i probably saved scum. I bet no scum were in my group now. I bet ironically enough we had fucking none and u all pressured me to think we had many dumb calls yall are nuts/going along with koba nonsense

[DkKoba]

can you explain wheme @RCE?
I still have them in PoE but if we can eliminate them too that makes it easier.

[DkKoba]

MT i can see but also it is the weakest spew IMO because it was late and when number was pretty much guaranteed to be elimmed

[DkKoba]

FB why do you scumread Koba? With specifics.

ive laid out my case before and not much has changed.
numbers flipping literally changes nothing except koba is also bussing here

>Wanted control of teams/groups since beginning but also stepped aside to pretend not taking control

This is vague and also not even remotely a scumtell.

>Pretends doesn't want a parachute then pockets hard dwlee all to show "validation for reads"

Anyone who was in my PT will back me up

>Pretends wants to suicide on Norwee then now flips on "ohh i actually just softened on this person" lol like what.

Reevalling isn't scummy.

I am shocked this gets townread and people think koba is town.

got anymore bad reasons i can refute for fun?

every townie here will see me as spewed town - so good luck with trying to paint me as scum.

also i genuinely thought i was saccing on enchant but his reaction to me claiming i left was townie to me - trying to manufacture that its scummy to change ones mind is just so fucking hilarious because if you flip town i want you to get spoilers from pooky so you can learn how your team name was aptly named.
pooky doesnt do spoilers iirc but just ask numbers im sure theyll oblige. its the least they can do after i was the one who buried them.