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Post Post #4475 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:38 pm

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In post 4416, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 4280, Almost50 wrote:Now here's a theory (out of thin air) which is NO BETTER than the ones I've been shooting down (actually it DOES feel a bit better from my own PoV):

Norwee is Scum (Sorry Enchant). MT is Scum. Scum thus knew at least 3 votes were cast on Norwee, and they saw Noraa was a contender, so they all voted there. Some "claimed" not to have done so (ex: NormalQ) so that the ones that did vote Noraa would take more heat.

Another -altered- theory is MT is Town and that PT was pure, so Scum didn't know Norwee was being voted and that ALSO means Norwee/Enchant isn't necessarily Scum (this why I say the whole theory is no better than nay other, because I don't know if "we're trying" is pure or not, so I don't know if Scum knew Norwee was available or not)
I think enchant has been obv towning and he just owned SS
Wheme might be town.
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Post Post #4476 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:40 pm

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In post 4474, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4472, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 4462, Save The Dragons wrote:Why do you think wheme is scum
RCE basically scumclaimed. Wheme might not be scum.

We only need one flip this phase and I feel very strongly STD is town and don’t want to flip him. I also agree with Math that that Q post points to Tweetie as scum. I’ve been getting not so great vibes from her for awhile now but RCE wanting to flip Enchant then A50 and Math looked the worst. Scum has it in for Koba, it’s blatantly obvious.

If consensus wants to flip Wheme separately next I’m not opposed but not with STD. I think if Tweetie is scum, we lose the least if we lose Spam whatever he is, so I probably prefer that but I think she’s got too many of you pocketed, so probably not happening yet. So my next choice is RCE.
maybe trust the person who has pushed 3 flpped scum and spearheaded it on the veto on rce right now ?

leave rce and MT today.
Why? I hard tr STD and am not sold on Wheme!scum.
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Post Post #4477 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:42 pm

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In post 4475, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 4416, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 4280, Almost50 wrote:Now here's a theory (out of thin air) which is NO BETTER than the ones I've been shooting down (actually it DOES feel a bit better from my own PoV):

Norwee is Scum (Sorry Enchant). MT is Scum. Scum thus knew at least 3 votes were cast on Norwee, and they saw Noraa was a contender, so they all voted there. Some "claimed" not to have done so (ex: NormalQ) so that the ones that did vote Noraa would take more heat.

Another -altered- theory is MT is Town and that PT was pure, so Scum didn't know Norwee was being voted and that ALSO means Norwee/Enchant isn't necessarily Scum (this why I say the whole theory is no better than nay other, because I don't know if "we're trying" is pure or not, so I don't know if Scum knew Norwee was available or not)
I think enchant has been obv towning and he just owned SS
Wheme might be town.
This post makes me unsure on Wheme. Obvtown reading Enchant especially this phase is protown.
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Post Post #4478 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:43 pm

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In post 4476, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 4474, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4472, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 4462, Save The Dragons wrote:Why do you think wheme is scum
RCE basically scumclaimed. Wheme might not be scum.

We only need one flip this phase and I feel very strongly STD is town and don’t want to flip him. I also agree with Math that that Q post points to Tweetie as scum. I’ve been getting not so great vibes from her for awhile now but RCE wanting to flip Enchant then A50 and Math looked the worst. Scum has it in for Koba, it’s blatantly obvious.

If consensus wants to flip Wheme separately next I’m not opposed but not with STD. I think if Tweetie is scum, we lose the least if we lose Spam whatever he is, so I probably prefer that but I think she’s got too many of you pocketed, so probably not happening yet. So my next choice is RCE.
maybe trust the person who has pushed 3 flpped scum and spearheaded it on the veto on rce right now ?

leave rce and MT today.
Why? I hard tr STD and am not sold on Wheme!scum.
This is where I am at.

I think MT is more likely scum and MT or RCE is much better imho or Spam because there was like no resistance to a double elim.
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Post Post #4479 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:45 pm

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or

here's a tip:

trust the person who has led town to successfully lim 3 scum in a row off associatives and has read them correctly this game. im on the right track rn and i should be not shut down for 1 or 2 posts
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Post Post #4480 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:45 pm

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So spam scum because there was no resistance? How does that follow?
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #4481 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:47 pm

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In post 4480, Dwlee99 wrote:So spam scum because there was no resistance? How does that follow?
Yeah. If I am losing a third of my scum team I am fighting tooth and nail for not that elim. I argue a buddy maybe not that. There was no fighting which is odd
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Post Post #4482 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:48 pm

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In post 4479, DkKoba wrote:or

here's a tip:

trust the person who has led town to successfully lim 3 scum in a row off associatives and has read them correctly this game. im on the right track rn and i should be not shut down for 1 or 2 posts
That would mean I trust A50 since they led the FB elim I think? I think you’re town I just don’t think Wheme is the proper elim.
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Post Post #4483 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:48 pm

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In post 4481, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4480, Dwlee99 wrote:So spam scum because there was no resistance? How does that follow?
Yeah. If I am losing a third of my scum team I am fighting tooth and nail for not that elim. I argue a buddy maybe not that. There was no fighting which is odd
because we made it pretty clear it was a consensus lim ?
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Post Post #4484 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:48 pm

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Okay so I expected that response but

Wheme wasn't around either. MT was and voted the wagon

So why is wheme town and mt and Spamton scum off that info
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Post Post #4485 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:48 pm

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you're projecting your own play onto others
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Post Post #4486 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:49 pm

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there is so much more evidence for MT being town and her being a consideration after we flip others first is a no brainer.
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Post Post #4487 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:51 pm

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I am arguing with math in the PT about the pure thing rn

Soo yea wheme die here imo
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #4488 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:51 pm

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In post 4484, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay so I expected that response but

Wheme wasn't around either. MT was and voted the wagon

So why is wheme town and mt and Spamton scum off that info
I think StD is town

MT/Spam and RCE/Tictac are all in my PoE

I would rather go for another possible double elim then one likely town and one maybe scum.
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Post Post #4489 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:52 pm

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In post 2345, WhemeStar wrote:Noraa im sorry.
shit like this is TMI
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Post Post #4490 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:53 pm

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In post 4489, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2345, WhemeStar wrote:Noraa im sorry.
shit like this is TMI
I don’t doubt that I just want to go Wheme after the dance when StD isn’t a casualty.
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Post Post #4491 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:54 pm

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big

you're not getting a double kill with my PT math

In suprised I'm still at the bott for u
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Post Post #4492 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:54 pm

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If wheme/STD is S/S I think we have to flip mathblade for this
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #4493 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:55 pm

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In post 4491, Morning Tweet wrote:big

you're not getting a double kill with my PT math

In suprised I'm still at the bott for u
I am surprised more people don’t have you at the bottom.
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Post Post #4494 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:55 pm

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In post 4488, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4484, Dwlee99 wrote:Okay so I expected that response but

Wheme wasn't around either. MT was and voted the wagon

So why is wheme town and mt and Spamton scum off that info
I think StD is town

MT/Spam and RCE/Tictac are all in my PoE

I would rather go for another possible double elim then one likely town and one maybe scum.
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overruled on the basis you were sleeping half the game and were barely aware and i have helped flip 3 scum.

you can have your turn if we flip 2 town.


MT/Spam i think can flip double town and thus is a terrible choice because theres plenty of plausbility of them being town

RCE is town as fuck. I don't care what you might want to say - their energy has *increased* not decreased and if they are scum they are deepscum and can be caught later anyways and wont be allowed to win final game anyways.

Tictac is possibly scum - but it comes with removing RCE who i dont want to. StD has more loltown potential and hasn't exactly done anything special thus far or made any significant pushes. For all we know StD is an under the radar scum too. Wheme? just fucking iso the guy and compare it to whats flipped so far.
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Post Post #4495 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:55 pm

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In post 4478, MathBlade wrote:
In post 4476, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 4474, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4472, Loki Dokie wrote:
In post 4462, Save The Dragons wrote:Why do you think wheme is scum
RCE basically scumclaimed. Wheme might not be scum.

We only need one flip this phase and I feel very strongly STD is town and don’t want to flip him. I also agree with Math that that Q post points to Tweetie as scum. I’ve been getting not so great vibes from her for awhile now but RCE wanting to flip Enchant then A50 and Math looked the worst. Scum has it in for Koba, it’s blatantly obvious.

If consensus wants to flip Wheme separately next I’m not opposed but not with STD. I think if Tweetie is scum, we lose the least if we lose Spam whatever he is, so I probably prefer that but I think she’s got too many of you pocketed, so probably not happening yet. So my next choice is RCE.
maybe trust the person who has pushed 3 flpped scum and spearheaded it on the veto on rce right now ?

leave rce and MT today.
Why? I hard tr STD and am not sold on Wheme!scum.
This is where I am at.

I think MT is more likely scum and MT or RCE is much better imho or Spam because there was like no resistance to a double elim.
+1

I’m glad we’re mindmelding and I <3 you Koba but I always trust my reads before anyone else’s and Math is mindmelding with me.

Wheme also seemed pretty annoyed with Fire for delaying getting the chute for Spam and I don’t think it looked like scum theatre.

I don’t believe scum would be okay with any alltown hood and that post I quoted from Q where he wanted Noraa, Gamma, me, Koba and Tweetie strongly points to Tweetie as a buddy. I think everyone else on team Tryhard is town. And if we’re still confident on Wheme!scum, it can wait until next phase.

I think both Tweetie and RCE have more scum equity than Wheme nut mostly, I hard tr STD. I don’t sr tictac either but STD has been super active and solvey.
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Post Post #4496 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:56 pm

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you mindmelding with a math who hasn't flipped any scum themselves is a bad sign not a good one
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Post Post #4497 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:56 pm

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your assumptions are bad
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Post Post #4498 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:57 pm

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In post 4492, Dwlee99 wrote:If wheme/STD is S/S I think we have to flip mathblade for this
Like if Wheme/StD is SvS sure I deserve it but I am pretty sure both are not scum. Like MT Spam RCE and Tictac are all pretty much required PoE elims.

I don’t want to elim a could be scum and a very likely town over a possible SvS
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Post Post #4499 (ISO) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:57 pm

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like its all projection.

i think its perfectly reasonable that the case is that MT is town from all angles.

your theory requires assumptions of play that arent reasonable to be 100% accurate.
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