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[Ythan]

Nyeh heh

[Three]

My Three scumread is mostly for meta reasons, though, so take it with a grain of salt.

What? What meta? This is only your second game with me.

[Three]

If Mozamis is in hammer range, why hasn't NM already hammered?

[Dwlee99]

Nm probably looking for vote count

I agree with Andres' posts

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hmm

[Dwlee99]

Mozami prodded 3 days ago

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I feel like when dwlee is willing to push on NAI things like activity it's scum-indicative from them, usually they're averse to that kind of thing

[fua]

I feel like when dwlee is willing to push on NAI things like activity it's scum-indicative from them, usually they're averse to that kind of thing

Nah.

[JacksonVirgo]

Actually.

VOTE: Jackson for contributing nothing beyond the occasional commentary on posts directed towards him.

I literally explained my situation dumbass

[Not_Mafia]

Nm probably looking for vote count

[fua]

Actually.

VOTE: Jackson for contributing nothing beyond the occasional commentary on posts directed towards him.

I literally explained my situation dumbass

And yet you still have time to pop in and make witty remarks every time you get shaded...

[fua]

My Three scumread is mostly for meta reasons, though, so take it with a grain of salt.

What? What meta? This is only your second game with me.

Or is it?

[JacksonVirgo]

Actually.

VOTE: Jackson for contributing nothing beyond the occasional commentary on posts directed towards him.

I literally explained my situation dumbass

And yet you still have time to pop in and make witty remarks every time you get shaded...

I pop in whenever I am able to pop in and usually that's just at the bus stop or right before going to bed , I am not going to stop work midshift to check a fuckin' forum game.

[Dwlee99]

I feel like when dwlee is willing to push on NAI things like activity it's scum-indicative from them, usually they're averse to that kind of thing

Oh god are you scum

[fua]

I feel like when dwlee is willing to push on NAI things like activity it's scum-indicative from them, usually they're averse to that kind of thing

Oh god are you scum

Yes, they are.

[UglyDuck]

Bad idea. Scum have a Doc, if we call out the target and you would hit scum they just protect them. If you would hit town they can still protect them for the WIFOM. And if you're fake claiming Vig but you're still town, they can Watch your target to see if you actually are Vig.
Just shoot the scummiest slot tonight so scum can't anticipate who to target and just default to protecting themselves.

- You pretty much blindly accept they are telling the truth.

...Except I don't, which you acknowledge.

Nobody should publically CC. NM gets naturally resolved tonight. If he's true claiming then mafia deals with him. If he's fake claiming then the real Vig's bullet will be the CC.

- Then you say he is either telling the truth, or if he is fake claiming the correct option is obviously to have the real vig shoot him. Which is just... horrible. Like planting the concept that the only 2 options are Skum or Vig is just a bad mind set.

If he's VT fake claiming Vig that is just a worse outcome. I'm not "planting" a concept, I'm assuming NM isn't flat out game throwing and fake claiming Vig as VT. If this shit happens two games in a row then town is just doomed.

Furthermore, why aren't you considering that maybe I could want scum to waste their Watch on NM?

I'm not pretending anything, but nice assumption. You still lied and made a hypocritical accusation and you're trying to dance around the fact. Good bye Alice.

@NM:

Shoot Alice if town does some dumb shit again and votes me out first.

- And then there is this case on Alice, which, while I don't really agree with the extremeness of it, at least it is a case. But then you go ahead again and put absolute faith in the fact that NM is the Vig. And you also set up a situation that like literally no one as town should EVER be confident in a game this size on Day 1 to state - "If I get eliminated then eliminate this person". That is just absurd.

Who the fuck cares? The Vig decides their own action. I'm just saying what I want them to do.

Why aren't you questioning Alice? She said I'm the scummiest person in the game. Why is it not an issue for her to want me voted out, but if I want her shot suddenly that's just too far? This is such a weird defense of Alice that excuses her behavior while villainizing my own.

1) Why are you so confident NM is the vig?
2) Why would you not consider NM being VT?
3) Other than the obvious OMGUS, why are you so hellbent on Alice?

1) I'm not? You even admitted I'm not lol.

2) I considered it. But then I decided I really don't want to deal with this game if we have VTs fake claiming roles and fucking over actual PRs

again

.

3) Hellbent? Dude nothing's even happening this game and I'm trying to play the game and get reads. Did you prefer it when we were doing fuck all and extending the RVS stage halfway into the first day?

Quote 1: I acknowledge it after the fact. This was supposed to represent a chronological timeline.
Quote 2: So, you just straight up think NM must be vig or skum then? Before I had not been considering the Watcher target concept, now I am assuming you didn't because you stated you don't think he is.
Quote 3: I care. Because it is an odd statement to make - it was mainly about the fact that you directed it specifically at NM, but if you only think they are skum or Vig, then that answers that. And I am not questioning Alice because I am questioning you. Little point in doing both at the same time. And the difference between pushing an elimination vs asking for vig shot direction should be clear.
Quote 4:
1) Fair enough. I was referencing the first quote, but since then you had said more.
2) However, this kind of dismisses all of your arguments about you "considering it"
3) Nope. Hate RVS. Just feel like your case is super OMGUS-y.

[fua]

Dwlee is actually a hard townread for me. Same with A50, N_M, and Alice. There are a lot of other people who look scummy as hell, though.

[Dwlee99]

Why am I a hard town read? I've been kinda low effort

[fua]

Why am I a hard town read? I've been kinda low effort

Exactly. You try harder when you’re mafia.

[fua]

Also if you were mafia you would have thanked me for the TR instead of questioning it.

[LicketyQuickety]

Vote Count 1.04

JacksonVirgo - 0
Almost50 - 0
Aaron - 0:
Not_Mafia - 1: mozamis
Dwlee99 - 0
AliceK - 1: Three
ssbm_Kyouko - 1: Almost50
fua - 3: UglyDuck, Aaron, ssbm_Kyouko
ILUVYTHAN - 0
Ythan - 0
Save The Dragons - 0
mozamis - 6: Save The Dragons, Andresvmb, Dwlee99, Ythan, ILUVYTHAN, fua
Three - 1: AliceK
UglyDuck - 1: Not_Mafia
Andresvmb - 0
No Elim - 0

Not Voting - 2: JacksonVirgo

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to Eliminate.

Day 1 Ends in (expired on 2021-11-16 12:15:00).

Mod Notes: Prodding Aaron, Replacing mozamis.

[Aaron]

Sorry this totally slipped my mind

[Aaron]

I'll be catching up in around an hour

[Three]

My Three scumread is mostly for meta reasons, though, so take it with a grain of salt.

What? What meta? This is only your second game with me.

Or is it?

I heavily doubt that we've played any other times.

[Three]

Also if you were mafia you would have thanked me for the TR instead of questioning it.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I had a game where I incorrectly town read Dwlee, and they not only questioned me for it, they death tunneled me. It's not out of their scum range to do it again.