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[fua]

My Three scumread is mostly for meta reasons, though, so take it with a grain of salt.

What? What meta? This is only your second game with me.

Or is it?

I heavily doubt that we've played any other times.

I could be an alt! It's not good to make assumptions about players, after all.

[Three]

My Three scumread is mostly for meta reasons, though, so take it with a grain of salt.

What? What meta? This is only your second game with me.

Or is it?

I heavily doubt that we've played any other times.

I could be an alt! It's not good to make assumptions about players, after all.

I didn't assume anything. This is only my third game on this site.

[fua]

Then clearly I’ve played with you in the majority of your games.

[Aaron]

Andresvmb I briefly skimmed your posts and agreed with most of it. I'm not sure what you want me to expand on. Uglyduck wasn't the only read you gave.

I don't have much to say at the moment but I do think it's important that 1-2 people unvote until the replacement settles in. If Mozamis is scum, that wagon and slot's bad reputation aren't going anywhere. It's protown to wait and see since there is a replacement now.

[Aaron]

fua's scum read on me is still a mystery. Amazing stuff. Nothing else is that interesting at the moment so this is it for catch up I guess.

[Three]

Then clearly I’ve played with you in the majority of your games.

That's not how meta works.

[LicketyQuickety]

Mod Note

RCEnigma replaces mozamis

[RCEnigma]

I think UglyDuck is Town, he is pushing a controversial opinion (not shooting, not liming as well?) which he should know could open him for attacks. I don't think as scum he would draw attention to himself like that.

Hi, it me. RC.

Anyway duck isn't pushing a controversial opinion here, he's just right. Big shouldn't shoot. Not only are n1 vigs bad as a general rule but you're running the risk of creating false results that have the *potential* to skew the gamestate out of the gate. Bad bad.

That said ugly being protown here I can agree with.

[fua]

Then clearly I’ve played with you in the majority of your games.

That's not how meta works.

That’s actually exactly how meta works— by extrapolating information from a previous game to make an informed inference in this one.

[Ythan]

Welcome.

[Dwlee99]

Also if you were mafia you would have thanked me for the TR instead of questioning it.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I had a game where I incorrectly town read Dwlee, and they not only questioned me for it, they death tunneled me. It's not out of their scum range to do it again.

Wasn't fua in this game

[Three]

Then clearly I’ve played with you in the majority of your games.

That's not how meta works.

That’s actually exactly how meta works— by extrapolating information from a previous game to make an informed inference in this one.

That's still incorrect. Data collected from only one example is not relevant or telling of anything. A large collection of data can reasonably be used to ascertain correlations.

Also if you were mafia you would have thanked me for the TR instead of questioning it.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I had a game where I incorrectly town read Dwlee, and they not only questioned me for it, they death tunneled me. It's not out of their scum range to do it again.

Wasn't fua in this game

Yes, which makes their assumption even more egregious here.

[Three]

I think UglyDuck is Town, he is pushing a controversial opinion (not shooting, not liming as well?) which he should know could open him for attacks. I don't think as scum he would draw attention to himself like that.

Hi, it me. RC.

Anyway duck isn't pushing a controversial opinion here, he's just right. Big shouldn't shoot. Not only are n1 vigs bad as a general rule but you're running the risk of creating false results that have the *potential* to skew the gamestate out of the gate. Bad bad.

That said ugly being protown here I can agree with.

Hi, you're at E-1. You might want to claim.

[fua]

Why are we arguing about this again? It’s not all that relevant.

[Not_Mafia]

One more on mozamis slot

[Three]

Why are we arguing about this again? It’s not all that relevant.

Because you claimed to meta read me, and I'm explaining to you that it's quite literally impossible for you to be able to.

[Three]

One more on mozamis slot

If they continue to refuse to claim then I'll vote there.

[Aaron]

One more on mozamis slot

If they continue to refuse to claim then I'll vote there.

We need a claim before hammering.

As I said, the best course of action is to lay off and give the replacement some time to interact and for people to reassess but if we must keep it this way, there must be a claim

[Three]

One more on mozamis slot

If they continue to refuse to claim then I'll vote there.

We need a claim before hammering.

As I said, the best course of action is to lay off and give the replacement some time to interact and for people to reassess but if we must keep it this way, there must be a claim

That's what I'm saying, they need to claim.

I think we'd all be more agreeable with laying off a bit if they were actually interacting with people and making some kind of attempt to catch up. However, they chose to respond to one post from page 4 instead of doing literally anything else that could be relevant to the current situation. And it's now been quite some time since they replaced in, yet they still haven't done anything else.

If you want people to lay off though then you should try to appeal to the people actually voting Mozamis/RC. I'm not currently on the wagon, I'm just willing to let it go through.

[Three]

Day 1 Ends in (expired on 2021-11-16 12:15:00).

Reminder that EoD is approaching. Considering how this game state has been complete ass and that everyone's activity is damn near flat lining, I'm concerned that we won't be able to push another wagon through in time if RC claims a PR and doesn't get CC'd. So forgive me for trying to rush some content out of the only viable wagon, but we really don't have much of a choice.

[UglyDuck]

By my count I believe they are only at E-2? Not E-1? I could be missing a vote though.
Not that that changes much, just wanted to point it out.

I am not a huge fan of the current leading wagon. They have not said much, so I do not have anything really to base it on based on their play. But I do think it got run up, and skum is likely sitting idle because "it is left as the only viable option".

[Three]

E-2 is really E-1 because NM will hammer.

Dwlee also called Mozamis slot "caught scum". If you disagree then take it up with them.

[UglyDuck]

OK.
Dwlee - I disagree. I think that it is far more likely that they are town and skum is sitting wherever they are happy that there has been no traction elsewhere.

What is your thought process behind skum just bailing like this? You think it is intentional yes? There was no case to be made on Moz, they had done nothing. Why would they panic and bail like that?

[Dwlee99]

Idk

Scum be scummin

Do you think scum are chilling on or off wagon or both

[Dwlee99]

Fua is probably scum here hm