Mini Normal 2245: LJITGBSMoD [game over!]

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:08 am

Why do you think NM wouldn’t bus

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:06 am

In post 1850, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why do you think NM wouldn’t bus

When does Not Mafia do anything besides troll and hammer anyone not him? The fact that Jolyne expected to die means the hammer is pretty much clearing. Lemme go find some recent Not Mafia scum games for comparison.

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:15 am

viewtopic.php?p=13055147&user_select%5B ... #p13055147 Not Mafia elimmed D1. He actually tried to do something. This game it’s all trolling.

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:16 am

In post 12, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm a miller btw

This while trolling is an example of the neg utility rule. This always should happen if negative utility.

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:59 am

You're still ignoring the entire setup when you argue what a hypothetical town!ascetic should do, and it's also an entirely pointless conversation to be having

AliceK · Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:53 pm

Well from last few pages I can say for sure Commander and Dwlee are not svs

Dwlee99 · Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:20 am

I could have told you that

StrangeMatter · Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:42 am

In post 1751, Commander Shepard wrote:That makes things remarkably easy. StrangeMatter is very likely one of the two scum. Now just to find the other.

Alright, explain please.

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:42 am

In post 1855, AliceK wrote:Well from last few pages I can say for sure Commander and Dwlee are not svs

Progress!

So from your PoV scum is in Dwlee, Gamma, Matter, and Myself.

Then me and Dwlee has at least one town in it.

Go on, what do you need next?

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:43 am

In post 1857, StrangeMatter wrote:
In post 1751, Commander Shepard wrote:That makes things remarkably easy. StrangeMatter is very likely one of the two scum. Now just to find the other.
Alright, explain please.

Just catch up.

redtea · Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:45 am

In post 1739, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 1727, redtea wrote:
In post 1712, ChaosOmega wrote:
In post 1702, redtea wrote:
In post 1700, Dwlee99 wrote:Wait redtea are you just a doctor doctor
im town babysitter, which makes the fact town ascetic died n1 hurt all the more
id been trying to figure out whether it'd be better to withold my exact role but i just can't think of a negative that isn't outweighed by a positive atp

In post 1703, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well in that case don’t use that anymore because it can only hurt
This is wrong too, we're at evens, we're not no-yeeting today with the claim. If we lim town we lose regardless, but if we lim scum redtea should claim their target and target someone, they either don't die which gives us info, the target is town and they both die, but we get back down to odds, or mafia targets not redtea for the NK.
okay now I understand
but upon declaring this strategy, if we went through with it then. Scum would probably just avoid nking me no matter who I targeted
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Babysitter

This does not make sense.

Why would reapers avoid shooting nking you when you give two town deaths?

if I declare a target and they don't die with me then that outs them as scum

redtea · Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:45 am

wait
so then
wait

redtea · Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:46 am

uhhh
I'll try to remember the other piece of the puzzle after work

redtea · Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:54 am

In post 1779, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1776, Commander Shepard wrote:Pedit: like I said I grant that. It’s a gambit because it’s rare
okay but this is incongruent with what you've said to my slot, which is why I think you're just scum here

Like your read on redtea is an easy "oh they're not scum cause why would scum gambit" but your read on me is "they're scum cause this gambit scenario is totally the most likely thing that happened"

gut says anyone sring dwlee at this point is a scumtell

redtea · Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:58 am

will catch up more at break and after work

redtea · Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:58 am

broken record I am

StrangeMatter · Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:09 am

In post 1863, redtea wrote:
In post 1779, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1776, Commander Shepard wrote:Pedit: like I said I grant that. It’s a gambit because it’s rare
okay but this is incongruent with what you've said to my slot, which is why I think you're just scum here

Like your read on redtea is an easy "oh they're not scum cause why would scum gambit" but your read on me is "they're scum cause this gambit scenario is totally the most likely thing that happened"
gut says anyone sring dwlee at this point is a scumtell

I mean I'm highly paranoid of Dwlee being scum whatnot of another game where my paranoia was completely correct but otherwise I feel good about Dwlee being town.

AliceK · Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:09 am

In post 1858, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 1855, AliceK wrote:Well from last few pages I can say for sure Commander and Dwlee are not svs
Progress!

So from your PoV scum is in Dwlee, Gamma, Matter, and Myself.

Then me and Dwlee has at least one town in it.

Go on, what do you need next?

I am actually too lazy to do more

Yeah pick a guy both of you and I will decide who to vote out of your picks

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:43 am

In post 1860, redtea wrote:
In post 1739, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 1727, redtea wrote:
In post 1712, ChaosOmega wrote:
In post 1702, redtea wrote:
In post 1700, Dwlee99 wrote:Wait redtea are you just a doctor doctor
im town babysitter, which makes the fact town ascetic died n1 hurt all the more
id been trying to figure out whether it'd be better to withold my exact role but i just can't think of a negative that isn't outweighed by a positive atp

In post 1703, Gamma Emerald wrote:Well in that case don’t use that anymore because it can only hurt
This is wrong too, we're at evens, we're not no-yeeting today with the claim. If we lim town we lose regardless, but if we lim scum redtea should claim their target and target someone, they either don't die which gives us info, the target is town and they both die, but we get back down to odds, or mafia targets not redtea for the NK.
okay now I understand
but upon declaring this strategy, if we went through with it then. Scum would probably just avoid nking me no matter who I targeted
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Babysitter

This does not make sense.

Why would reapers avoid shooting nking you when you give two town deaths?
if I declare a target and they don't die with me then that outs them as scum

They’d die with you regardless unless they are BP scum. If you protect someone and you’re shot you and the target die. At this point you’d be better off protecting a scumread if we don’t hit scum today.

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:45 am

In post 1863, redtea wrote:
In post 1779, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1776, Commander Shepard wrote:Pedit: like I said I grant that. It’s a gambit because it’s rare
okay but this is incongruent with what you've said to my slot, which is why I think you're just scum here

Like your read on redtea is an easy "oh they're not scum cause why would scum gambit" but your read on me is "they're scum cause this gambit scenario is totally the most likely thing that happened"
gut says anyone sring dwlee at this point is a scumtell

Your gut needs to visit Moradin in sick bay. It’s not the who is scumread it’s the why. Do you understand my argument Dwlee is scum?

It’s very simple. Scum planned to bus Jolyne this is a fact. Therefore the predominant busser is scum.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:46 am

Scum are ascetic so they can’t be taken out via redtea’s role

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:47 am

In post 1867, AliceK wrote:
In post 1858, Commander Shepard wrote:
In post 1855, AliceK wrote:Well from last few pages I can say for sure Commander and Dwlee are not svs
Progress!

So from your PoV scum is in Dwlee, Gamma, Matter, and Myself.

Then me and Dwlee has at least one town in it.

Go on, what do you need next?
I am actually too lazy to do more Yeah pick a guy both of you and I will decide who to vote out of your picks

My elim choice would be Strange Matter because while I think Dwlee is scum, there is a small possibility I am wrong. Whereas I doubt both Dwlee and Gamma were bussing so Strange Matter is lock scum to me. So I think StrangeMatter is the elim and then tomorrow Dwlee and Gamma duke it out for who bussed.

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:48 am

In post 1870, Gamma Emerald wrote:Scum are ascetic so they can’t be taken out via redtea’s role

Right whoops. Facepalm well then redtea should out their target then and hope no scum roleblockers or PRs.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:49 am

If we elim town today we just lose

Commander Shepard · Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:49 am

In post 1750, Datisi wrote:
vote count 5.02

with 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 5 ends in (expired on 2021-11-18 09:15:00).

yeet
Commander Shepard [1]:
StrangeMatter

not voting [5]:
Gamma Emerald, Dwlee99, Commander Shepard, redtea, AliceK

mod notes~ one two seven three

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There should be no reason Strange Matter would be voting if town right now.